Kia Stinger actually, really; in the news

[Joseph Spiegel]

H/T to Jeromy E. on Facebook.

If you’re going to steal a car and use it to steal boxes from porches, do it in style!
So, what exhaust would you want in this situation? Would 20” rims be better, what color?

PORCH PIRATES: Package theft case cracked two days after viral video

 

[MerlintheMad]

How does one steal and drive away in a keyless entry vehicle? Did the thief obtain the key first? Interesting questions in an age of digital keys.

 

[BlindAssassin111]

How does one steal and drive away in a keyless entry vehicle? Did the thief obtain the key first? Interesting questions in an age of digital keys.

It was stolen from the dealership, so it would be pretty easy to obtain the key if they broke into the dealer and knew how to get into their keybox.

 

[AV8R]

Amazing! Don’t mind my pun but I hope they throw away the key on the culprit.

 

[Ozstung]

Mmm, this crime rings a bell.

 

[AV8R]

Mmm, this crime rings a bell.

Oh please not again! Lol

 

[mcemc]

The thieves actually can carry a receiver in a backpack and walk up to your front door and have the remote key talk to the receiver and then access your vehicle. Scary stuff.

 

[MerlintheMad]

The thieves actually can carry a receiver in a backpack and walk up to your front door and have the remote key talk to the receiver and then access your vehicle. Scary stuff.

It might really be that easy. We've had tech that can steal your CC/debit card info just be standing nearby in a checkout line when you scan your card; for years we've been warned about that. So if someone can reach to where your digital key is, and obtain the "signature", then communicate with the car, well then, "Gone In Sixty Seconds", 21st century style! My salesman "assured" me that the new keyless entry tech does not really make stealing cars more difficult; only less well known, for now.

 

[Zotto]

Keep your fobs in a steel box!

 

[MerlintheMad]

Keep your fobs in a steel box!

A lead-lined box!!!

Still, if someone with the "reader" cast their eyes on your car, and followed you home or to your next stop, then followed you surreptitiously, and obtained your key's signature, they could return to where your Stinger is parked and drive away. You can't be carrying a box for your key everywhere you go.

 

[Alagos]

I got my box but I can’t test - waiting for the car
There is a paper in the box saying, you can use the key to open the doors - signal will go through but reduced. Don’t know if driving is possible then. Maybe when you put the box near the power on button.
The website showed a video with a bag where nothing gets through.
A Key in a box could be readed anyway when the paper is right, even if it says it can’t be stolen in this way. I’m not sure, maybe ordering the bag too... need to test it in 4 months

 

[AV8R]

Keep mine in a tin box

 

[MerlintheMad]

My spare key is in a Brinks lockbox. But I carry my main key at all times hanging from my belt: just waiting to be digitally "raped" of its signature info.

 

[Ozstung]

Keep mine in a tin box

Put mine under my pillow but the tooth fairy took it, only got $2 for it.

 

[Doel]

It might really be that easy. We've had tech that can steal your CC/debit card info just be standing nearby in a checkout line when you scan your card; for years we've been warned about that. So if someone can reach to where your digital key is, and obtain the "signature", then communicate with the car, well then, "Gone In Sixty Seconds", 21st century style! My salesman "assured" me that the new keyless entry tech does not really make stealing cars more difficult; only less well known, for now.

There was a little truth to that which was used to create this rumor in order to sell products. Unless you have an old RFID card, which very few people did and no one does now, you didn't have to worry about someone stealing your credit info in the check out line, unless they were taking a picture of your card numbers. Regular "chipped" credit cards don't have any type of radio frequency.
https://www.mybanktracker.com/news/chip-cards-safe-from-wireless-thieves

 

[MerlintheMad]

Regular "chipped" credit cards don't have any type of radio frequency.

Well, without the chip the card was vulnerable. It wasn't that long ago. I only got my first chip cards a couple or three years ago.

Now, our keyless entry "key" is a mysterious device. How is it vulnerable? Can it be "read"? That's the impression I have taken away from the discussion on how to steal a car. But the tech is new as well, so very few car thieves have it. But wait a bit and we'll be sitting in parking lots as if our doors are unlocked, windows down and keys (old style) sitting in the ignition.

 

[Doel]

Well, without the chip the card was vulnerable. It wasn't that long ago. I only got my first chip cards a couple or three years ago.

Now, our keyless entry "key" is a mysterious device. How is it vulnerable? Can it be "read"? That's the impression I have taken away from the discussion on how to steal a car. But the tech is new as well, so very few car thieves have it. But wait a bit and we'll be sitting in parking lots as if our doors are unlocked, windows down and keys (old style) sitting in the ignition.

the only cards that were vulnerable were the RFID equipped ones, which I've never seen anyone actually have here. All old cards without a chip and with a chip are not susceptible, they have no radio frequency to read, unlike our keys which are susceptible because they emit a signal. From what I understand, people are creating a device that will read the signal from your key and clone it, then emit that same signal to unlock your car.

 

[MerlintheMad]

From what I understand, people are creating a device that will read the signal from your key and clone it, then emit that same signal to unlock your car.

And start it, of course.

 

[mcemc]

Thought this was interesting.

thedrive.com/news/22784/thieves-steal-same-couples-lexus-three-times-using-the-keyless-entry-hack

 

[MerlintheMad]

Thought this was interesting.

thedrive.com/news/22784/thieves-steal-same-couples-lexus-three-times-using-the-keyless-entry-hack

Steering wheel club: after reading about these, they are no answer either. In fact, thieves will target cars with them, which is perverse.

Preventing the fob from being signaled is the only way. At home you can be the most protected. Traveling is a heightened risk. I'm imagining thieves determining which motel room you are in, for instance. Easy peasy. Unless putting the fob inside the motel microwave is really a solution?

The way I go about with the fob on my person all day is also kind of stupid when thinking about theft. I literally sit for hours at a time on my computer, immediately above my car. If I could reach through the wall, I could touch my car with an eight foot pole from where I sit. So a thief could walk into my carport, signal the car, find the fob in the next less than five seconds, and drive away before I could even get out the front door. Heh.

(edit: would buying a second microwave oven, or keeping a dead one, as a security fob box, be practical? How do we determine if the inside of a microwave blocks the searching signal?)