Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

[Angel]

Lets just stay on track here. The slip is not valid end of story!

Lets just move on and go back to the competitive spirit. We need to compete to get a better time than @STINGER and @Sales@Tork @TorkMe. They have the number 1 and 2 spot. They are the guys were chasing to beat there records at least on this forum and list.

I am coming for you guys, I have a JB4 now but if that doesn't get me into the 11'a I am going with the BTR ecu tune. @Tonkabob @DaBears4Lyfe @Crewdawg130 @Kato_the_kia_stinger and others on the list I am coming for you guys. I dont know if I will get better times than any of you guys but i am coming lol !!!! I am going to give all of you Mother lovers a run for your money !!!

Dont worry guys I wont use the slips for my Lexus Is 300, well maybe I will if I get beat by all you guys !!! Just keep this between us guys, I will make sure the number and date match on the slip.

 

[Michael Locke]

Just trying to get the story here. So he took a 10 second slip from 3/8/19, and forged the date to 3/1/19? Or they are saying the entire slip is forged? That seems like a lot of work it was clearly printed out on a some sort of timeslip printer.

No where does it say 3/8/19...

Where are you getting the date 3/8?

 

[Terry@BMS]

No where does it say 3/8/19...

Where are you getting the date 3/8?

From the detectives:

Curiosity got the better of me and I reached out to Wild Horse Pass dragstrip. Darren Pedro (track employee) told me that they had no Friday night drags on 01MAR2019 or 15MAR2019. He stated the only event this month was on the 08MAR2019. Car #106 (10.9s run in question) on 08MAR2019 was a Chevrolet Corvette, NOT a Kia Stinger.

If there was no event 01MAR2019 why does the slip say 01MAR2019? And why does it matter what car was assigned to #106 08MAR2019? Are they saying the slip was forged all together?

 

[Angel]

As I said a 5th grade comprehension level is required...You probably don't realize you made my point for me by putting all the posts together.

Would to love to hear your responses to your comments.....

Just answer 2 questions for me if possible.

1. Would you have commented the same way if bal was running a tork tune or lap 3? By some of your comments it seemed like you were in belief that the slip was valid or wanted people to believe it was valid. Was this because he had a JB4?

2. Do you honestly believe 10's is that easy to get? Why haven't you done it yet?

I am sure a 5th grader can answer these questions honestly and logically, you should have no problems answering these. Try to answer these questions without attacking me or directing comments towards me. Give that a try!

 

[Michael Locke]

There's so much wrong with this slip, hell even the font is weird.

Whatevs. I have a dead horse I gotta go beat!

 

[Bryan3.3]

@mp_gt2

 

[Angel]

There's so much wrong with this slip, hell even the font is weird.

Whatevs. I have a dead horse I gotta go beat!

Lets move on, slip is not valid end of story. Lets get back to 1/4 mile times!

 

[Terry@BMS]

Would to love to hear your responses to your comments.....

Just answer 2 questions for me if possible.

1. Would you have commented the same way if bal was running a tork tune or lap 3? By some of your comments it seemed like you were in belief that the slip was valid or wanted people to believe it was valid. Was this because he had a JB4?

2. Do you honestly believe 10's is that easy to get? Why haven't you done it yet?

I am sure a 5th grader can answer these questions honestly and logically, you should have no problems answering these.

1) I said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Based on the emails from the guy months ago implying nitrous and gutting his interior I presumed he probably installed nitrous and it could be legitimate. But also said I can't confirm anything on the car.

2) Not interested in running nitrous. But it would be easy 10s.

 

[Helo58]

As much as I love the truth, I honestly regret sharing it even though I know someone else would have. I am sure some people want no part of this forum because of the regular mud-slinging that goes on here. It isn't honest debate, it is a series of petty arguments that are rarely skillfully made. For the people that seem to think they are the "winners" in this situation, it is funny how you seem so emboldened now. You hold a wooden trophy and you act like it is made of solid gold. You have given up your dignity and have compromised yourselves for what? It took someone who couldn't have cared less about your argument to resolve it. Nothing says I care or want to be right more than that. You were all too busy and ego driven to pick the simplest method of resolving the issue. It is a huge problem when you care more about winning than the truth coming out. I even suggested to the forum how to resolve it well in advance of me actually having to do it. If your tune/car/etc. is clearly so much better who do you trouble yourselves so much with those who disagree with you? It is like a person not believing in Santa Claus and then being mad at people you have called idiots who do believe. If you have dismissed them as idiots, you really shouldn't care what they think should you?

 

[Michael Locke]

Honestly, I think I speak for most of us when I say that we were hoping he would just speak up and defend himself instead of a bunch of speculation from this side or that.

But no, instead we had to go dig deeper and now the dude has been proven to be a liar and publicly humiliated.

That was 100% his choice. If he wasn't prepared for this scenario, then he should have never shared the slip, true or not.

 

[Tonkabob]

New 12.0 time for the list at the #4 spot. This is posted to FB list and I actually asked him if he wanted it posted here.

3.3t/2.0t perfomance discussion
Red car vs Kato_the_kia_stinger in the above video.

#4 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

@mp_gt2

This was the best comment I’ve read in this thread in days. Lol

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

New 12.0 time for the list at the #4 spot. This is posted to FB list and I actually asked him if he wanted it posted here.

3.3t/2.0t perfomance discussion
Red car vs Kato_the_kia_stinger in the above video.

#4 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

View attachment 21536

Yeah, my dude, Miguel!

 

[TorkMe]

You implying that JB4 is behind this really goes to show a lot about your character / your business reputation. That's hilarious

I am implying? What, like Terry implies that you can make a dyno read whatever you want it to, with no proof? Or how Terry says that the BMW ECU is just like the KIA ECU... yet, cannot post a single damn map from the Stinger ECU to back up that statement?

There is a difference between implying something, and actually making a fact filled statement. I can easily show why and how the JB4 is damaging the engine, just have to post the datalogs of the fuel correction, and show that the load index jumps in and out of full load and part load (this is why you get the gagged datalogs from Terry, but not from proper tunes). But I refuse to post those logs or expose those problems with the JB4. Why? Because people have to learn the hard way. They cannot be told something is bad, they must first experience the failure, then be told why it happened. My character is clean, and I sleep well at night knowing I didn't sell a poorly engineered product to the community. I was the first Stinger to have down pipes on the car, but we are the last business to offer primary cat deletes. Why, because we knew there was an oil burning issue when running reduced back pressure on the turbos. Everyone was in a rush to be first, or get the customers money... not me.

So attack my character... say horrible things about me. Expose me for being a "scam artist" who sells "snake oil". I have heard it all before, and oddly enough, we are still in business, and we have an incredible loyal and large customer base. We have that customer base because I am who I am, not because I am trying to get the next $$ from my customers.

It weird you would judge me in this post, but not the person who posted the false time slip or those who claimed that the time slip should be on the top of the list with no proof. In all these comments, in all these lies that have been exposed, I AM THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR CHARACTER EVALUATED.

 

[TorkMe]

Dang, didn't someone say Terry vouched for this guy?

So when someone calls/emails you with unbelievable results, you take them for their word and spread it?

Anything is possible with a Jb4 ....or a Corvette.... on a different day.

Interesting business model.

Maybe the Corvette had a JB4 on it and Terry was mistaken? Nah, bruh... look at that engine bay in his screen shot, LOL!

 

[Angel]

For Track Results:
1. Provide picture of track Slip. Try to provide a picture of the track slip by your car number if possible, this will ensure the track slip belongs to your car.
2. Video of track run. Its 2019 and everyone owns a smart phone. Have someone record you when you make your runs. If you break a record then this is the ultimate proof that no one can deny. This is what will make your run 100 percent validated. Of course make sure you record the time at the end.
3. List all performance mods, including tires, WMI, Nitrous, weight reduction, etc......

For Dragy Results:
1.Post the dragy slip/result. Your name should match your user name or real name to make sure you used it on your car.
2. If possible have someone record you, although not required but helpful.
3. Be honest about the conditions you ran in, meaning temperatures. Winter time vs summer time. Dragy should be used more as a performance reference, rather than the ultimate 1/4 results.
4. List all of your performance mods.

Here are the top times as of March 19th, 2019.

1/4 mile time, speed, 1/8 mile time, speed, 60


1. 11.94 @ 118.11, @STINGER, 7.77 @ 92.99, 1.89

RWD, JB4 map 3, WMI, VT Snorkel, K&N Drop ins, High flow CAT, JunBL mid EVC cat back


2. 11.98 @118.96, @TorkMe, 7.84 @94.03, 1.95

GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork intake, muffler delete, no cats, fmic. 92 Octane


3. 12.07 @ 116.73, @Crewdawg130, 7.85 @92.65, 1.90

GT2 RWD, JB4 map3, intake, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials. 93 octane


4. 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

5. 12.12 @ 116.82, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.91 @92.12, 1.92

AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane


6. 12.13 @116.78, Jesse P turbokits.com, 7.89@ 91.51, 1.87
AWD, Lap3 pro Map 3, Intake, FMIC, no cats, 93 octane.


7. 12.17 @ 116 Michael Locke, 7.95 @ 91.93, 1.95

AWD, Lap3 pro Map2, Injen Intake, lap3 down, SSR Mid, 91 + E30


8. 12.17 @114.71, Kia Bahrain (@STINGER driving)

GT2 RWD Lap3 Uncle, junbl cat back, 100 octane


9. 12.35 @ 115.00, Bryan2.0, 8.05 @90.39, 1.96

AWD JB4 map3, Tork intake, 93 octane + Royal Purple



Dragy*:

1. 11.58* @120.58, @Tonkabob, 7.50 @95.83, 1.82

GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E15 94 octane


2. 11.83* @119.61, @Get Stung, 7.70 @93.83, 1.89

AWD, JB4 Map5, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane


3. 11.87* @ 118.29, @ScottyCole, 7.71 @93.25, 1.88

AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85


4. 11.91* @120.73, @Terry@BMS, 7.82 @94.96, 2.03

GT RWD, JB4, BMS intake, Water/Methanol injection 50/50, Drag radials, wheels. 30% E85


5. 12.07* @ 113.98, Michael Locke, 7.89 @92.70, 1.95

AWD, Lap3 pro Map2, Injen Intake, no cats. 91 + E30


6. 12.13* @116.6, @KLR STINGER

AWD, JB4 map2, Intakes, Velossa snorkels, Magnaflow Catback, JT FMIC, Lap3 primary dp, JunBl Mid (no cats), Magnaflow Catback, 94 octane e20e30

 

[Angel]

Added Miguel takes the number 4 spot, Kato moves to 5.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

... or, or we move on like adults.

 

[Angel]

Below is the number 4 and number 5 spot on the track 1/4 mile

Seems like the Tork ecu stage 1 tune out performs the JB4 on map 8 at least on the Track with similar mods.

There both AWD. The only diffference between the 2 is Kato is running WMI and Miguel is running an Intercooler, which they somewhat offset each other. I believe the WMI is more effective than the intercooler but that is just my opinion.

I think the JB4 on map 8 runs more boost than Tork stage 1.
Tork 17-18 psi on stage 1
JB4 probably runs about 7-9 psi over stock on map 8, JB4 probably runs anywhere between 18-22 psi. Than means the JB4 is running about 2-4 more psi than the tork Stage 1 tune.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but based on this info this is what it seems.

4. 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

5. 12.12 @ 116.82, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.91 @92.12, 1.92

AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane

 

[nhcowboy28]

A lot of sexual tension here....