Issue with traffic and maps

[MerlintheMad]

The traffic thru satellite is supposed to be ongoing whether you sign up for the entertainment package or not.

That's good. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Waynerm002]

I would suggest you use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. I stopped using the in car system for navigation and cancelled my Sirius subscription once those were made available in my car. Now with Google maps, I find it works quite well. Wale gives a lot of info too but it’s not yet working on Apple Carplay to display on my head unit’s screen.

 

[Marc Collins]

I would suggest you use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. I stopped using the in car system for navigation and cancelled my Sirius subscription once those were made available in my car. Now with Google maps, I find it works quite well. Wale gives a lot of info too but it’s not yet working on Apple Carplay to display on my head unit’s screen.

I have no problem with people using whatever they prefer for nav. However, letting KIA off the hook is the result of everyone paying for nav (whether you wanted to or not in some cases) and then accepting and abandoning a defective system in favour of their own phone-based system. Also, some people don't have data plans that allow for constant use of their phone, or travel in areas where phone service is spotty. That's why we have a satellite-based nav and that's presumably part of the reason it costs so much. Don't let KIA get away away with providing anything less than an excellent system. You know, the kind that is available in a bunch of other competitor's cars that cost half the amount of the Stinger.

KIA added Bluetooth messaging after enough people screamed how outrageous it was they didn't include it (again, when it is available on cheaper KIAs and every other modern car today).

 

[MerlintheMad]

Don't let KIA get away away with providing anything less than an excellent system.

I wouldn't know. This is all completely new to me. What I did see on a road trip down through central Oregon this past summer was that phone service was pretty much non existent, while the NAV kept right on providing.

 

[Marc Collins]

I wouldn't know. This is all completely new to me. What I did see on a road trip down through central Oregon this past summer was that phone service was pretty much non existent, while the NAV kept right on providing.

That's the point. Since you already paid dearly for nav in the car, do you want it to work properly?

 

[cmivxx]

Don't let KIA get away away with providing anything less than an excellent system.

I've tested built-in nav's from pretty much all of the major car manufacturers and they all suck with the distinct exception of Audi, who's is cluttered, but nice. The problem more that these days car manufacturers are just providing these services as an almost after-thought. Media unit's are decided upon for the vehicle when the car is in prototype/pre-pro state, and little to nothing changes through that process outside of software. The stinger was in pre-pro for 3 years prior to being released in Korea, which means that the 2018 models had entertainment units that were new in 2015(ish), save for a few software improvements. You are not wrong with the assumption that people that paid extra money for those services should get their money's worth, but with the advent of Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, manufacturers have largely quit caring about what they can offer and trying to offer better experiences for external devices. This trend is only poised to continue down this path. In fact, some other auto-makers have stated that they will cease offering built-in nav entirely and just offering support for mobile devices. And considering how prevalent said devices are in our daily life, I think this is a smart move. I look at it like this... I never buy a "Smart TV" because it's "smart", I buy it as a display and connect my own "Smart Devices" to it because invariably something won't work right or will break over time and it's a LOT more expensive to replace the whole TV because Netflix won't work and instead will just buy a new Roku or Chromecast or Apple TV because they are comparatively inexpensive. Car's aren't much different.

 

[Marc Collins]

I've tested built-in nav's from pretty much all of the major car manufacturers and they all suck with the distinct exception of Audi, who's is cluttered, but nice. The problem more that these days car manufacturers are just providing these services as an almost after-thought. Media unit's are decided upon for the vehicle when the car is in prototype/pre-pro state, and little to nothing changes through that process outside of software. The stinger was in pre-pro for 3 years prior to being released in Korea, which means that the 2018 models had entertainment units that were new in 2015(ish), save for a few software improvements. You are not wrong with the assumption that people that paid extra money for those services should get their money's worth, but with the advent of Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, manufacturers have largely quit caring about what they can offer and trying to offer better experiences for external devices. This trend is only poised to continue down this path. In fact, some other auto-makers have stated that they will cease offering built-in nav entirely and just offering support for mobile devices. And considering how prevalent said devices are in our daily life, I think this is a smart move. I look at it like this... I never buy a "Smart TV" because it's "smart", I buy it as a display and connect my own "Smart Devices" to it because invariably something won't work right or will break over time and it's a LOT more expensive to replace the whole TV because Netflix won't work and instead will just buy a new Roku or Chromecast or Apple TV because they are comparatively inexpensive. Car's aren't much different.

Happy to ignore them as soon as the car companies start charging accordingly. By your standard, and I don't disagree, the built-in navs should be free or almost free and ubiquitous. If that was the case, there are still better and worse designs. But when it is billed (literally and figuratively) as an expensive add-on feature, they need to deliver some value.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Happy to ignore them as soon as the car companies start charging accordingly. By your standard, and I don't disagree, the built-in navs should be free or almost free and ubiquitous. If that was the case, there are still better and worse designs. But when it is billed (literally and figuratively) as an expensive add-on feature, they need to deliver some value.

I haven't seen anything blatantly, continuously bad about my NAV. It works more than it doesn't. The maps accuracy is problematic to say the least. But we shouldn't be turning off our conscious engagement with the physical world to stare at a stupid screen in the first place. It should only be backup, an information center that we take to with reserve. So I am not going to get too worked up over things that it tells me that I can see for myself are inaccurate.

I didn't get the Stinger to get the NAV. It falls firmly into the category of "added features". I can live without it. But since the car has it, I use it. Same attitude toward my cell phone: I got the cheapest, bare bones cell phone and service I could find. It is Bluetooth compatible, or else I wouldn't have a cell phone on wheels either: probably wouldn't miss that either. Luddites put up with a lot that drives other people crazy.