Is my car too high? (coilovers)

[Ek9max]

I honestly think it looks pretty good. Like a sportier version from kia.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I asked your car what he thought....

He responded:

 

[Waynerm002]

Lol!

For me a prefer it to be about 2 fingers between the top of the tires and the wheel well. I had a 525 with sport package and in front I could only get 1 finger in and almost 2 in back. The ride of the car was great, could take 25 mph on ramps at 65 and the car just handled great. It was darty with the run flats it came with, turn, you’re there. The thing that wasn’t fun was getting in the car, that thing was low! I bought it CPO with maintenance plan and assumed it was stock setup.

With my 2018, I wanted to make changes, with the 2019, not so much. I think I like to have less lean and the rear has a slight hop, nothing like the 2018 though.

 

[xot1]

Update after adjusting the height.

Sorry to disappoint the crowd, but I finally only lowered it further by 10mm in the front and 7.5mm in the back.
Edit: NVM, I just measured and compared to the previous pictures, it is actually 16mm lower in the front and 11mm lower in the back!

There are a lot of speed bumps and underground parkings in Korea. I did not want to have to worry in front of each speed bump and have to take ramps in diagonal in fear of scratching the bumper. So it may not look as cool as people on Eibach's, but I am pretty satisfied with that height for the moment.



Comparison:


Front:

38mm->22mm (-16mm)

Rear:

31mm->22mm (-11mm)

Thank you for everyone's feedback!

 

[MerlintheMad]

There are only two pics. The top two are identical; there is no visual difference in the gap. The bottom two are identical. The bottom pic has a narrow gap. Photoshop is an odd way of illustrating the lowered look: why not just take a pic of the car after it is dropped?

 

[Ty Davis]

Update after adjusting the height.

Sorry to disappoint the crowd, but I finally only lowered it further by 10mm in the front and 7.5mm in the back.
Edit: NVM, I just measured and compared to the previous pictures, it is actually 16mm lower in the front and 11mm lower in the back!

There are a lot of speed bumps and underground parkings in Korea. I did not want to have to worry in front of each speed bump and have to take ramps in diagonal in fear of scratching the bumper. So it may not look as cool as people on Eibach's, but I am pretty satisfied with that height for the moment.

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Comparison:
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Front:
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38mm->22mm (-16mm)

Rear:
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31mm->22mm (-11mm)

Thank you for everyone's feedback!

Is there any bouncing over road surfaces with these KWV3s?
Which bounces more, the front or rear?
What shock settings do you have your shocks at?

Do you ever feel any bounce or float? Where, front or rear? When?

Give us a review of the ride quality.
Has road noise increased?

 

[CoconutRob]

There are only two pics. The top two are identical; there is no visual difference in the gap. The bottom two are identical. The bottom pic has a narrow gap. Photoshop is an odd way of illustrating the lowered look: why not just take a pic of the car after it is dropped?

Looks very good.

 

[xot1]

There are only two pics. The top two are identical; there is no visual difference in the gap. The bottom two are identical. The bottom pic has a narrow gap. Photoshop is an odd way of illustrating the lowered look: why not just take a pic of the car after it is dropped?

Oh You are right first and second pic are the same!
I wanted to make it easy to compare, but it became even more confusing, let me try again:





The last one ("lowest") is only to show how it would have looked if I lowered it further.

 

[xot1]

Is there any bouncing over road surfaces with these KWV3s?
Which bounces more, the front or rear?
What shock settings do you have your shocks at?

Do you ever feel any bounce or float? Where, front or rear? When?

Give us a review of the ride quality.
Has road noise increased?

Right now it doesn't bounce and it doesn't float.
Grip is good even over irregular pavement, stability is very good at high speed and in corners.
Currently, I've set the bump to 60%, and the rebound to 70% (100% being the softest setting).
Before I readjusted it was 35% bump, 50% rebound.
At that time, the ride was too harsh, road bumps had a much stronger impact on the car and the rear lost grip much often.
Now, I would call it close to perfect. (I haven't tested a lot of settings so there might be a more optimal configuration!)

As for the ride quality, I find it to be even better than stock. (that can be subjective)
It feels like the car handles or absorbs shocks from the road much better.
You cannot pass speed bumps as fast as with the stock suspensions, (and if you do, you will be punished)
but the way the car behaves after the bump drastically improved.

Looks very good.

Thanks!

 

[CoconutRob]

Could you tell me your wheel setup? I see you are on stock tires. Thanks

 

[xot1]

Could you tell me your wheel setup? I see you are on stock tires. Thanks

They are in my signature but here you go:
GfG forged
F: 19x8 +30, 17.6lbs/ea.
R: 19x8.5 +35, 19.6lbs/ea.
My tires are indeed stock PS4 (37psi).

 

[MerlintheMad]

Oh You are right first and second pic are the same!
I wanted to make it easy to compare, but it became even more confusing, let me try again:

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The last one ("lowest") is only to show how it would have looked if I lowered it further.

I think "Now" looks perfect.

 

[MerlintheMad]

As for the ride quality, I find it to be even better than stock. (that can be subjective)

It is subjective alright. And it can vary from ride to ride. We can fool ourselves into believing a ride is too soft or too hard.

Here's the thing about the stock Stinger: it is a compromise. There isn't anything untested about the Stinger. When Biermann says the rear end is designed to be a bit "playful", he's not just using handwavium to brush aside complaints about the rear end being "floaty" or moving around too much when "spirited" cornering or high speeds are happening. He's talking about how the rear end changes. For 99% of the time (and 99% of drivers, i.e. "normal" drivers simply traveling) the rear end is compliant/comfortable at speeds well within 100 MPH (legal speeds). But the car's potential is there bone stock: it can go fast, and it won't feel floaty at all to an experienced driver who knows what the car is designed for; s/he will adjust to the characteristics of the bone stock setup; and observe that improvements can be made, but the car is really good as-is: which is a Gran Turismo that can carve curves. The faster it goes the more hunkered down it gets, bone stock. When we put these suspension mods on, we get the buttoned down feel at "normal" speeds, and the faster speeds should be even that much better vis-à-vis traction and smooth cornering.

 

[stingLikeAee]

What do you guys think?

Looks fine, IMHO.

 

[xot1]

It is subjective alright. And it can vary from ride to ride. We can fool ourselves into believing a ride is too soft or too hard.

Here's the thing about the stock Stinger: it is a compromise. There isn't anything untested about the Stinger. When Biermann says the rear end is designed to be a bit "playful", he's not just using handwavium to brush aside complaints about the rear end being "floaty" or moving around too much when "spirited" cornering or high speeds are happening. He's talking about how the rear end changes. For 99% of the time (and 99% of drivers, i.e. "normal" drivers simply traveling) the rear end is compliant/comfortable at speeds well within 100 MPH (legal speeds). But the car's potential is there bone stock: it can go fast, and it won't feel floaty at all to an experienced driver who knows what the car is designed for; s/he will adjust to the characteristics of the bone stock setup; and observe that improvements can be made, but the car is really good as-is: which is a Gran Turismo that can carve curves. The faster it goes the more hunkered down it gets, bone stock. When we put these suspension mods on, we get the buttoned down feel at "normal" speeds, and the faster speeds should be even that much better vis-à-vis traction and smooth cornering.

I understand your point and I do not disagree. They did more tests than anyone on this car and the settings they've chosen were the best compromise to achieve the result that they wanted for this car concept. But as said, a compromise means that they need to satisfy the widest range of customers with different needs and expectations.
In my case, I wanted:
(1) more stability at higher speeds
(2) reduced body roll/lift/dive
(3) the ability to lower my car at desired height
-> Mission accomplished.

I do not expect better grip than stock suspensions for the reasons you stated above, but my driving confidence is greatly improved due to the better stability.

 

[robz32]

Oh You are right first and second pic are the same!
I wanted to make it easy to compare, but it became even more confusing, let me try again:

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The last one ("lowest") is only to show how it would have looked if I lowered it further.

It looks perfect. Great height for a daily driven car.