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[tonya7800]

What is this S3 tire? Pilot Sport A/S 3+ maybe? The A/S 4 is supposed to be the update to the A/S 3+.

Yes that is the one the Pilot Sport A/S 3+
My apologies didn't realize I needed to be that specific. But yes those are the ones.. so currently my car has 39K on the odometer this is The second brand new front tire.
The new tires are Pilot Sport the A/S 4...
I knew when I bought the Stinger that there would be some extra cost that comes along with a Sport Sedan. Obviously one of them being New tires... I am just a little skeptical as to why this particular tire is failing so fast?
Just would like to know if anyone else has concerns about this? Or is just me? ;-)

 

[JSolo]

Do you have a pic of what the tire/treadwear looks like?

15K is low mileage for a 45K tire. They say half of that if staggered. So you're at what, 2/3's of that. Still low. Without seeing the wear pattern hard to tell.. Alignment?

 

[tonya7800]

I've not heard before of having to manually restart the engine. Something is whacked for sure. This should just increase your determination to push the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) button OFF as the first thing you do after starting the engine: that's what I do (99% of the time anyway ).

Yes it is whacked for sure.
Merlinthemad
I do the same thing as you the moment I start my car I instantly turn off the ISG.
Its those very rare moments when I didn't shut it down at start up that I stall in the middle of rush hour traffic.
We all know this is not ok but yet the only fix for now is to pay out of pocket?

 

[tonya7800]

Do you have a pic of what the tire/treadwear looks like?

15K is low mileage for a 45K tire. They say half of that if staggered. So you're at what, 2/3's of that. Still low. Without seeing the wear pattern hard to tell.. Alignment?

I just signed up for this forum but I will post pictures ASAP and yes the current shop said it was out of alignment. My car is at only at 39K. and I did replace the front tires and had an alignment done around 17k miles ago.
As of today those replacement (about a year or so ago) tires have maybe 16-17k on them and the alignment the old tires were (ripping apart at the outer seams).
Anyway I've already replaced the front tires just a couple days ago and of course alignment ( I have pics and vid of the old tires ill post soon)
Trust me I know there will be a hundred different opinions . I have no reason to be untruthful. I've keep impeccable service records and not afraid to show them... LOL
Something just doesn't seem right?

 

[JSolo]

I'm trying to understand what a tire ripped apart at the seams actually means ¿?

 

[tonya7800]

Also let me add that when I bought my car I was SOLD a separate outside "protection plan"
The 3 in One Protection Plan. Separate from the Kia warranty but I bought at the dealership the day I bought my car.
This "Protection Plan" is supposed to cover things that your normal Kia Warrent will not cover...

Tires are covered: as long as is a blowout or irreparable damage due to road hazards.. potholes, nails, glass, hitting a curb etc....
Of course normal wear and tear Is NOT Covered
Rims are covered for the same above stated reasons. (but Rim needs to "unrepairable" to qualify)
Windshield Damage (of course your regular insurance should cover this?)
Last but not least PAINTLESS Dent Repair.. good luck finding a body shop or dealership that will deal with them long enough for yiu to make a claim.

I'm trying to understand what a tire ripped apart at the seams actually means ¿?

Ill send pics ASAP. Ill definitely get to that when i get home from work. of course seeing a picture is worth a thousand words.
For now the best I can explain in words is that the outside of the tire is separating.. coming apart from the rest of the tire on the outside. using Ripped apart may have been too harsh of an explanation.? The rest of the tire is in amazing shape.

 

[tonya7800]

hmm. I have 40K on my fronts and I drive my car pretty hard.

I suspect an alignment issue or a problem with the tire itself. There seems to have been a rash of recent posts here and on facebook with tires wearing out in the outer shoulder area, but good luck getting Michelin to admit to that.

edit:
that's definitely not typical ISG (Idle Stop and Go) behavior. There's a few ways to deal with it, from low tech (jam a piece of paper/plastic in there to permanently hold the button down), to more high-tech (a guy on Facebook sells a module that disables it on startup).

Thank You Aarvix! I'm still learning how to use this forum properly. So I hope this one gets directly back to you and not general post? SO... I'm getting bombarded with ?'S and I'm trying my best to explain the tire thing without pictures. I'm gonna try to post tire pics when I get home later this evening.
However Aarvix ....You hit the nail right on the head with both the tire thing and the ISG thing (Thank You!!) At least someone understood what the hell I was trying to say. I'm really not here looking for answers? I just really want to know if anyone else was having similar issues.

 

[tonya7800]

The stop/start doesn't bother me at all, I find it doesn't intrude. If for some reason I don't want it doing that on a particular stop, removing my foot a bit from the brake starts the engine right back up. I really do not find this intrusive.

What I do not like is the stop/start with the auto-hold. IME, using both of these at once does not work well. It's too much for the car to overcome both the auto-hold AND stop/start from a dead stop with the engine off. It's like I'm fine with either, but not both. I like auto-hold in some situations, but if I'm using it, I don't want the engine shutting off in that situation. But since we have adaptive cruise control, as long as I engage the cruise it's usually fine, since that will stop the car. It's when you're first in line, etc.

James,
I forgot to mention in my previous post that "WHEN" the ISG function is operating normally? It jerks/lurches forward really aggressively when I remove my foot from the brake pedal? Again that's only when it works...?
I'm not here looking for people to tell me how to fix my car. I just want to know if I'm the only one with these sorts of issues.
Also can someone please go to the freaking dealer ship with me! LOL ive been numerous times. what would really help if someone knew what i need to say to them to get my car operating right!

 

[RM7]

James,
I forgot to mention in my previous post that "WHEN" the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) function is operating normally? It jerks/lurches forward really aggressively when I remove my foot from the brake pedal? Again that's only when it works...?
I'm not here looking for people to tell me how to fix my car. I just want to know if I'm the only one with these sorts of issues.
Also can someone please go to the freaking dealer ship with me! LOL ive been numerous times. what would really help if someone knew what i need to say to them to get my car operating right!

Videos for one, if that doesn’t work, send them a register return receipt letter with the issue. Documentation is key.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Yes it is whacked for sure.
Merlinthemad
I do the same thing as you the moment I start my car I instantly turn off the ISG (Idle Stop and Go).
Its those very rare moments when I didn't shut it down at start up that I stall in the middle of rush hour traffic.
We all know this is not ok but yet the only fix for now is to pay out of pocket?

Also let me add that when I bought my car I was SOLD a separate outside "protection plan"

That's what I'd pursue: there is no way that this ISG behavior is "normal operation".

For now the best I can explain in words is that the outside of the tire is separating.. coming apart from the rest of the tire on the outside. using Ripped apart may have been too harsh of an explanation.? The rest of the tire is in amazing shape.

This is a Michelin tire warranty issue. Your front tires might not even be affected by the staggered "half treadlife" warranty that applies to the rear tires. In either case, a clearly failing sidewall at any point in the tire's life should give you a prorated discount on a new pair of tires.

 

[JSolo]

If i'm understanding correctly, tread separating from the tire? Similar to what happens to semi retread tires. You see bands of rubber occasionally on the roadway/interstate.

 

[tonya7800]

I've not heard before of having to manually restart the engine. Something is whacked for sure. This should just increase your determination to push the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) button OFF as the first thing you do after starting the engine: that's what

Glad my Stinger never came with the ISG (Idle Stop and Go). Waste of time I believe with the amount of fuel you would be saving. If you wanted to save on fuel, why buy a Stinger. Welcome to the forum.

Videos for one, if that doesn’t work, send them a register return receipt letter with the issue. Documentation is key.

Noted I will do that for sure

 

[monusa]

Glad my Stinger never came with the ISG (Idle Stop and Go) (Idle Stop and Go).

How did a '19 Stinger "not' come with isg and my '18 did?????? I thought it was purely a standard feature???

 

[Nasscar]

How did a '19 Stinger "not' come with ISG (Idle Stop and Go) and my '18 did?????? I thought it was purely a standard feature???

I think the cars vary a little with some features depending on what country they are sold in. I am glad though.

 

[monusa]

I think the cars vary a little with some features depending on what country they are sold in. I am glad though.

OOPs.....Sorry bout that. didn't pay attention to the local........I stand corrected!