Help with reaching map 3-4

[Kellyfamgen3]

Im running map 2 perfectly fine with no ign time running over 3.5 i am running 93+ stp octane booster full bottle and when i switch to map 3 im running ign time up to 5-6.5 need help would love to find someone who can ft or vc and walk me through the settings. And how to adjust certain things willing to pay for your time if needed as well. I have attached my logs and if i need to run test let me know what and how and ill get it done

 

[Boogetsbizzy]

I know, I want to run map 3 but the closest pump for e85 is not logical.

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

I know, I want to run map 3 but the closest pump for e85 is not logical.

See i have easy access to e85 i can get it at the pump down the house i just dont know anything about mixtures and % but ive been researching im trying to run map 3 without e85 before going to map 4 with e85

 

[Boogetsbizzy]

See i have easy access to e85 i can get it at the pump down the house i just dont know anything about mixtures and % but ive been researching im trying to run map 3 without e85 before going to map 4 with e85

When I spoke to Terry about map 3 on 93 he said there’s usually not a difference. I never bothered to try map 3 and run logs haha. Maybe I should

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

When I spoke to Terry about map 3 on 93 he said there’s usually not a difference. I never bothered to try map 3 and run logs haha. Maybe I should

I know in lower rpm’s it felt majorly different than map 2 but my timing was a little to far out of my liking but im running major mods and upgrades denso step 2 plugs so im confused why its going off in map 3

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

When I spoke to Terry about map 3 on 93 he said there’s usually not a difference. I never bothered to try map 3 and run logs haha. Maybe I should

Also did you reach him through a post or email?

 

[Boogetsbizzy]

Also did you reach him through a post or email?

Email

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

Thanks

Email

 

[SneakerB]

See i have easy access to e85 i can get it at the pump down the house i just dont know anything about mixtures and % but ive been researching im trying to run map 3 without e85 before going to map 4 with e85

its simple just top your tank off with 5 gallons of e85 ive done it for a year now! as long as you dont go over 6 gallons youll be good!

 

[SneakerB]

its simple just top your tank off with 5 gallons of e85 ive done it for a year now! as long as you dont go over 6 gallons youll be good!

use 93 until your a little less than 3/4 full and then the rest should be about 4.5 to 5 gallons, and just leave the car on and watch through the window as im filling up 93 so i know when to stop

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

use 93 until your a little less than 3/4 full and then the rest should be about 4.5 to 5 gallons, and just leave the car on and watch through the window as im filling up 93 so i know when to stop it

Gotcha now can i run e30 while jb4 is disabled just in case

 

[ShaPoopieZ]

Yes.
My wife runs E30 all the time with the JB4 disabled.
Although she doesnt know it.

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

Yes.
My wife runs E30 all the time with the JB4 disabled.
Although she doesnt know it.

Gotcha and aye better safe than sorry

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

Yes.
My wife runs E30 all the time with the JB4 disabled.
Although she doesnt know it.

Can i run map 1-2 with e30 as well? And do i need to change anything in the fuel system to run e30

 

[rpoffen]

Can i run map 1-2 with e30 as well? And do i need to change anything in the fuel system to run e30

AFAIK, should not be a problem. The only thing with E30 is knowing your mixture. It's easy to say start with regular 91 or 93 and add so much E85, but it depends on what you start with. Depending on the E content of the gas (here is California, the pump says MAY contain up to 10% ethanol, so that figures in since you are already E10.
Problem is, for this to work you need to run your tank almost dry to know your starting point. So no changes needed to the fuel system, but I added a fuel-it Flex Fuel kit which goes inline between the LP pump and HP pump and uses a bluetooth connection and app on the phone to read the actual E content. I find the pump gas is typically E9, and the app has a calculator to punch in all these numbers to estimate how much E85 to get to your target. The Fuel-It sensor also has a wire you can tap over to the JB4 so it knows what you have as well.
This has worked extremely well for me and have been running map 3. This is a big difference over maps 1 and 2.

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

AFAIK, should not be a problem. The only thing with E30 is knowing your mixture. It's easy to say start with regular 91 or 93 and add so much E85, but it depends on what you start with. Depending on the E content of the gas (here is California, the pump says MAY contain up to 10% ethanol, so that figures in since you are already E10.
Problem is, for this to work you need to run your tank almost dry to know your starting point. So no changes needed to the fuel system, but I added a fuel-it Flex Fuel kit which goes inline between the LP pump and HP pump and uses a bluetooth connection and app on the phone to read the actual E content. I find the pump gas is typically E9, and the app has a calculator to punch in all these numbers to estimate how much E85 to get to your target. The Fuel-It sensor also has a wire you can tap over to the JB4 so it knows what you have as well.
This has worked extremely well for me and have been running map 3. This is a big difference over maps 1 and 2.

I use a calculator as of right now for the e30 mix and i use do one e30 tank then wait till im empty and fill up 2 more times with just 93 then an e30 tank. That way i dont mess up my mixture and im running map 2 mostly anyways

 

[rpoffen]

I use a calculator as of right now for the e30 mix and i use do one e30 tank then wait till im empty and fill up 2 more times with just 93 then an e30 tank. That way i dont mess up my mixture and im running map 2 mostly anyways

Just saying that the Fuel-It flex fuel kit was worth every penny to me.

 

[SneakerB]

I use a calculator as of right now for the e30 mix and i use do one e30 tank then wait till im empty and fill up 2 more times with just 93 then an e30 tank. That way i dont mess up my mixture and im running map 2 mostly anyways

You can run up to e40 safely so theres plenty of leway. theres guys running e70 on stock everything, you really dont have to be that cautious about it even terry says just add 5-6 gallons of e85

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

Just saying that the Fuel-It flex fuel kit was worth every penny to me.

I gotcha i plan on adding that on here soon but waiting on it for a bit because im only trying to tackle map 3 but plan to go higher in near future

 

[Kellyfamgen3]

You can run up to e40 safely so theres plenty of leway. theres guys running e70 on stock everything, you really dont have to be that cautious about it even terry says just add 5-6 gallons of e85

And thats good to know im really new to high performance tech and fuel mix ive only played with turbo fourwheelers and motorcycles. As far as cars go though only 4 cylinder honda’s or v8 trucks so not much experience