Fusion Sport

[MisterMac]

It will be nowhere near the GT which has 460HP. It's barely stronger than the motor that's in it now which is 310HP turbo. You could get the 3.31's in it now, so they added 20HP and put an available 3.55 gear for it.... In Mustang land, this isn't really big news as much as the soon to be 4 door and AWD versions are.

4.5 0-60 is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Ucinn]

I'll wait to see the 4.5...the numbers just don't add up.

 

[Regs120]

It will be nowhere near the GT which has 460HP. It's barely stronger than the motor that's in it now which is 310HP turbo. You could get the 3.31's in it now, so they added 20HP and put an available 3.55 gear for it.... In Mustang land, this isn't really big news as much as the soon to be 4 door and AWD versions are.

The peak numbers are small, but the power curve shifted up and the torque curve is flatter through the RPM band. The Upper RPMS won't fall off a cliff like the used too, but still no where as strong as the V8. Even with that - I would be reluctant to buy a RWD Ford RS but for someone who likes the looks of a mustang and wants to mod it, it might be feasible. The stronger block with upgraded pistons and larger turbo might be a tuners dream.

 

[G-86530]

Had a run in with a modified (at least exhaust and wheels) one last night. Wasn't much of a competition. First time was getting on the highway and then second was getting on a connecting highway. Both times I let him go first and get the jump, and both times I immediately took away his advantage and started the gap.

Everyone is comparing the fs as of its in the same class as the stinger. Thats not right. If youre going to compare classes you should be comparing the stinger to the taurus sho. Those are the same class.

 

[Ucinn]

Everyone is comparing the fs as of its in the same class as the stinger. Thats not right. If youre going to compare classes you should be comparing the stinger to the taurus sho. Those are the same class.

He started it, had to honor our rep

 

[Patmir]

Friend here from the Fusion Sport crowd.

According to C&D, the FS (AWD) is 1/2 second slower than the Stinger GT (AWD):

Fusion Sport AWD
0-60 mph: 5.1 sec
¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 101 mph
Weight: 4127 lbs

Stinger GT AWD
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec
¼-mile: 13.2 sec @ 108 mph
Weight: 4157 lbs

Got my FS last year as a new '17 leftover, paid $27k US. Two guys on our forum just purchased new '18 leftovers, paid $24k US. Incidentally, no one is really "talking smack" about the Stinger GT on our forum. As a matter of fact, we've been having a pretty healthy debate on the topic. So ...

Just for fun I had to drive a Stinger GT AWD to see what all the commotion was about. My thoughts:

• GT handles flatter in the corners
• GT's extra power is definitely there, but not day/night difference
• GT has great styling
• GT's interior is upscale by comparison
• GT's optional sound system was ok compared to "base" FS 9 speaker system (req adjusting?)
• Remote start (a must for cold climate dwellers) is a $500 option, standard on the FS
• No base GT's available within 50 miles of my area, all are 48-52k 2018/2019 GT1's/GT2's

All in all, the GT is a very adept/very capable car. But 24-27k for a new FS leftover makes it enticing.

Peace Out.

Good post! Cheers

 

[vlngnr]

Bought a 2018 fusion sport for 23k with 7100 miles on it 10 months ago. Who cares about the Kia for that price. It's sleeper not a Stinger.

 

[Kamauxx]

Who cares about the Kia for that price.

You do!

You even came here just to tell everyone.

 

[Aarvix]

Thread necromancy to tell us he bought a slower car for less money...

Congrats I guess.

 

[DTD]

Friend here from the Fusion Sport crowd.

According to C&D, the FS (AWD) is 1/2 second slower than the Stinger GT (AWD):

Fusion Sport AWD
0-60 mph: 5.1 sec
¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 101 mph
Weight: 4127 lbs

Stinger GT AWD
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec
¼-mile: 13.2 sec @ 108 mph
Weight: 4157 lbs

Got my FS last year as a new '17 leftover, paid $27k US. Two guys on our forum just purchased new '18 leftovers, paid $24k US. Incidentally, no one is really "talking smack" about the Stinger GT on our forum. As a matter of fact, we've been having a pretty healthy debate on the topic. So ...

Just for fun I had to drive a Stinger GT AWD to see what all the commotion was about. My thoughts:

• GT handles flatter in the corners
• GT's extra power is definitely there, but not day/night difference
• GT has great styling
• GT's interior is upscale by comparison
• GT's optional sound system was ok compared to "base" FS 9 speaker system (req adjusting?)
• Remote start (a must for cold climate dwellers) is a $500 option, standard on the FS
• No base GT's available within 50 miles of my area, all are 48-52k 2018/2019 GT1's/GT2's

All in all, the GT is a very adept/very capable car. But 24-27k for a new FS leftover makes it enticing.

Peace Out.

I agree that stock to stock the Stinger GT AWD is faster than the Fusion Sport but the 0-60 time difference is really not a true indicator. In order to get that 4.6 in the Stinger you need to use launch control as did C&D. I was watching a video with a guy in his Stinger do 0-60 runs. He could not break 5.0 so finally used launch control and he ran a 4.7. Launch control is not always very practical on the streets because you can't always time it to the lights. I believe in the 1/4 mile stock to stock the Stinger GT AWD is definitely faster. I have heard some say the Stinger engine is stronger for tuning but the Stinger engine is aluminum block which I think is not as strong as the cast iron block in the Fusion Sport. Can't be sure but I think it is.

 

[monusa]

Straight line acceleration from a dead stop is probably the least important performance consideration.

"So you got the 2.0 4 cyl Stinger then, right?"..............

Ok, "V6_TT FUSPORT".....now you done it.....yep, i do have the 2.0T and would L-0-V-E to see your Fusion "sport,SPAT" whatever you call it......you would have to eat that comment....but i digress.....Stinger is the better car...sorry

 

[Jayphil]

There seem to be too much emotion in this discussion.
My personal not Bias take (current BMW 535i owner shopping for future car and not a current KIA Stinger nor Fusion Sport owner)

The Fusion Sport competitor from KIA is the new K5 GT not the Stinger. Granted KIA decided not to sell the K5 GT in AWD but this much closer comparison to the Fusion. Fusion Sport is a regular non premium sedan / non sport sedan within its sportiest trim which compete with K5, Accord, Camry etc. in their sportiest trim. For me the Fusion is low ranked in that category for most criteria (because dated from 2013...) but it happen to be good in straight line performance criteria and reasonable $ if that what matter the most for specific individual.

On the other hand the KIA Stinger is KIA attempt to enter the Premium Sport Sedan (RWD based, M340i, C43, S4/S5) category which for me they succeeded to reach 90% of the competition (technology, driving dynamic, efficiency, quality of interior etc.) while costing 75% of the comparable German making it a very good choice for people that are ok with that 90% or do not want (or cannot afford) to spend German money (and later German repair costs)

My short conclusion is that the Fusion Sport will never be in my short list and is very different vs the Stinger but I can appreciate the fact that they have a good straight line performance for the $ so they will appeal to some buyers. Also, I am sure that a tuned Fusion Sport can outperform (on a drag strip) a stock or less modified Stinger.

 

[MerlintheMad]

There seem to be too much emotion in this discussion.
My personal not Bias take (current BMW 535i owner shopping for future car and not a current KIA Stinger nor Fusion Sport owner)

The Fusion Sport competitor from KIA is the new K5 GT not the Stinger. Granted KIA decided not to sell the K5 GT in AWD but this much closer comparison to the Fusion. Fusion Sport is a regular non premium sedan / non sport sedan within its sportiest trim which compete with K5, Accord, Camry etc. in their sportiest trim. For me the Fusion is low ranked in that category for most criteria (because dated from 2013...) but it happen to be good in straight line performance criteria and reasonable $ if that what matter the most for specific individual.

On the other hand the KIA Stinger is KIA attempt to enter the Premium Sport Sedan (RWD based, M340i, C43, S4/S5) category which for me they succeeded to reach 90% of the competition (technology, driving dynamic, efficiency, quality of interior etc.) while costing 75% of the comparable German making it a very good choice for people that are ok with that 90% or do not want (or cannot afford) to spend German money (and later German repair costs)

My short conclusion is that the Fusion Sport will never be in my short list and is very different vs the Stinger but I can appreciate the fact that they have a good straight line performance for the $ so they will appeal to some buyers. Also, I am sure that a tuned Fusion Sport can outperform (on a drag strip) a stock or less modified Stinger.

And it's a nice looking car, too.

 

[violingineer]

And it's a nice looking car, too.

Bought a Fsport loaded for $ 23k with 7k miles on it. Sorry but youre never gonna get a better deal than that for as much as you get in that car. I test drove a Jetta gli which was really the only other option in my price range, and the fusion was plain better. I can afford much more than a kia stinger GT (and if I wanted to pay 45-50k, I wouldn't be buying a kia thank you) but my fusion was paid for when I drove off the lot. Peace out.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

Bought a Fsport loaded for $ 23k with 7k miles on it. Sorry but youre never gonna get a better deal than that for as much as you get in that car. I test drove a Jetta gli which was really the only other option in my price range, and the fusion was plain better. I can afford much more than a kia stinger GT (and if I wanted to pay 45-50k, I wouldn't be buying a kia thank you) but my fusion was paid for when I drove off the lot. Peace out.

Welcome. You got robbed. Goodbye.

 

[Kamauxx]

I just don't understand the point of joining a Kia Stinger forum to tell people you bought a Ford Fusion. I'm so confused.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

If you spend 5 minutes talking to a Fusion guy, it will become more obvious what the problem is...

 

[Jayphil]

Bought a Fsport loaded for $ 23k with 7k miles on it. Sorry but youre never gonna get a better deal than that for as much as you get in that car. I test drove a Jetta gli which was really the only other option in my price range, and the fusion was plain better. I can afford much more than a kia stinger GT (and if I wanted to pay 45-50k, I wouldn't be buying a kia thank you) but my fusion was paid for when I drove off the lot. Peace out.

I am not sure like others said what you expect from your post in a Stinger forum. You could also go in BMW forums that tell them how you got a better deal compared to them (Maybe you did this already…). This clearly show that you do not understand car engineering and you do not understand why other pay more to get, well more …


While you believe 23K is a great price there are so many other fusion (non 2.7T) that look almost the same and that is only worth 8K on the road. This is one of the reason why the price of Fusion Sport is low while you believe you have a 3X K car for 23K other will believe you have a 10-15K car...

Also, the Fusion Sport while it is not ugly is does not really look good either. To most they are invisible and never someone will stop you at a gas station saying you have a nice car....

But it is great that you like your car and that you made a financial decision to buy a car cheaper then what you afford.

 

[Aarvix]

I'm gonna go to the RS7 forum and tell them I bought a stinger for less than they paid, BRB.

 

[ecko04]

I just don't understand the point of joining a Kia Stinger forum to tell people you bought a Ford Fusion. I'm so confused.

Stinger living rent free in their head.