feeling oldddd.

That's excellent advice for the young buck, and for all of you 20 somethings and an absolute must for 30 somethings. Thanks MerlintheMad!
There aren't that many jobs that provide a true pension any more... there are some like teachers, police, firemen, and basically union jobs or government. The rest of us including self-employed individuals like myself have to make their own retirements. 401k, Roth RIA, 403B, KEOGH accounts, etc., are all fantastic but they are just part of the equation. Ultimately, IMO, you need to create as many income streams as possible throughout your life so you aren't totally dependent on any one thing or on social security when you're older. For instance, property is tool that can be used different ways to provide income both directly and indirectly. Unless there is a reason not to (and there are for sure) you should try to buy a home even if you don't live in it. Rent is an expense that will never go away and will always get more expensive over time. A house payment generally is a fixed amount that will eventually be cheap by comparison. Later on in life you want to be at the point where you no longer have a house payment. That certainly doesn't mean you need to live in the same house all your life, just that by paying a loan over time and building equity and rising values you end up with net worth that allows you flexibility as far as your personal housing goes. When the day comes that you no longer have a house payment you have just received a very nice raise, an indirect increase in your income because you eliminated a major expense. Somewhere along the line maybe you can acquire a 2nd property, whether business or residential it doesn't really matter. The idea is someone or some business is going to make most of the mortgage payment for you over time, building more equity and eventually providing a positive cash flow, another income stream.

Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes time, effort, planning, and sometimes just recognizing and seizing an opportunity that presents itself.
One thing is for sure... if you aim at nothing you will certainly achieve your goal: nothing.

I bought my 1st home at 20 and started a business the same year. 12 years later I sold that starter home and bought a nice family home. Meanwhile I leased commercial space for 17 years for my business, really a long time, before I bought a commercial property. That property has 2 commercial units and 2 residential units on it. Almost immediately the rents I collected paid for the mortgage while my business occupied the main unit for free, another indirect income stream. Six years later I bought another residential property with 2 small houses on it. I own my home and the commercial property free and clear now and am retired. I collect four rents from that property and just need to cover the property tax, insurance, and upkeep... and deal with tenants which can be a pain in the ass to be sure. The other residential property has doubled in price but the tenants have been making the mortgage payment for 14 years. It was a break-even for me for 13 years! All the time, effort, and money I put into the property put not a cent in my pocket but did nice things to my net worth. Since much of the mortgage was paid, along with the down payment I made in the beginning, I now own 2/3 of the property and the bank just 1/3 so, I refinanced it and lowered the mortgage payment dramatically and, yup, another nice income stream every month. My wife is a teacher of 26 years. Financially, it's a great partnership... she provides tremendous healthcare benefits that would have cost a fortune for a self-employed guy like me. She has a few years left but when she retires she will have a pretty nice pension for life. Side note: all of the talk about teachers not wanting to work and all that, well, that's a load of crap. My wife works her ass off everyday including evenings and significant time on the weekends... 7 days a week. She works two jobs in the summer that don't pay as well as her regular job but she does it anyway and always has.
Bottom line is we both worked hard to get where we are and I was willing to do all the extra stuff and bear the expense and stress of making property work for us. I'm a regular guy, no rich family financing my dreams. Blue collar small business, fixed my own machines, took good care of my clients, worked through the night many, many times to make deadlines.

Time flies by faster than you can ever imagine. When you're 14 you want to be 16 and drive and all that. When you're 16 you want to be 18, an adult. When you're 18 you want to be 21, you can drink, meet more girls, etc. Then all of a sudden you are 30, and that's cool. You're more established, better income supposedly. Then bam! 40, bam! 50, 55. Problem is I'm still the same inside as I was at 25. Body gets older and the brain is like, WTF??

Good luck all of you young'uns!! There's no single path, there's no "right way". Everyone's lives are different. i'm no financial planner and certainly not in a position to offer specific advice to anyone! However, if someone, anyone thinks about their future because of anything the OP said or anything I said, that's the point.
man what a comment!!! I understand things will take time but man!! I am very impatient lol. we all age sadly but I will not let that hold me back. at the moment I am trying to set myself up as much as possible before my 20s are over. thankfully I am having a lot of help. I feel weird being given help Idk why but I tend to like doing things on my own but understand not everything can be made by one man. some current goals have changed now that my job position changed yesterday but my main ones like buying my house this or next year is still a go! I have amazing coworkers that want the best for me and my future. amazing parents that want to see and help me get my first house and awesome forum members who help out with any car problem and also give amazing advice. the future is nerve-racking but all ima do is take it day by day and try planning for the best outcomes. flipping houses is something I want to do as a side hustle later on once I do more research but being in the construction field definitely helps me get insign on what needs to be don't and what the cost will be around.

thank you for the wishes and your comment. thank you,
 
@SIMONGUEY I’m glad you started this thread the amount of advice for just living in general and not just car stuff is really refreshing I hope this thread keeps going!!!
I find it very refreshing to read other people's thoughts and experiences since we are all living our own unique lives.

if you enjoyed this thread you might like this older one I made about side jobs!!

 
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thankfully I am having a lot of help. I feel weird being given help Idk why but I tend to like doing things on my own but understand not everything can be made by one man.
This needs another comment: Early in life I balked at what I could see was coming next, changes and demands that I didn't want to face. Rather than retreat, I looked for helpful advice and accepted physical help when it was offered. I never fell into the mindset, "Me do it me self". Independence is a virtue, but not if it dominates and makes you refuse helpful offers. I called my late father-in-law my "blessing angel", because I saw him as a blessing in my life when he helped his daughter and her family. I know that this perspective could be a very difficult one for some people, especially husbands/fathers who were raised to be self-made men. Anyway, try and not begrudge helpful offerings out of a sense of pride.
 
I find it very refreshing to read other people's thoughts and experiences since we are all living our own unique lives.

if you enjoyed this thread you might like this older one I made about side jobs!!

How is the OnlyFans page going? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
This needs another comment: Early in life I balked at what I could see was coming next, changes and demands that I didn't want to face. Rather than retreat, I looked for helpful advice and accepted physical help when it was offered. I never fell into the mindset, "Me do it me self". Independence is a virtue, but not if it dominates and makes you refuse helpful offers. I called my late father-in-law my "blessing angel", because I saw him as a blessing in my life when he helped his daughter and her family. I know that this perspective could be a very difficult one for some people, especially husbands/fathers who were raised to be self-made men. Anyway, try and not begrudge helpful offerings out of a sense of pride.
100% true. I'm working at just accepting the help. 100% feels strange in my opinion but have noticed that things can get finished or started a lot quicker than doing things solo.
 
How is the OnlyFans page going? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
not so well I've made $10 so far. I guess using a foam cannon naked while washing a stinger isn't the most profitable job ever lol
 
not so well I've made $10 so far. I guess using a foam cannon naked while washing a stinger isn't the most profitable job ever lol
Try switching to a smaller wash mitt, and a brighter coloured one, and if that doesn't work switch up the music and see how it goes - I suggest
 
nothing a wig cant fix lol
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
You’re only as old as (the women) you feel.
 
Wow. Wish I could be 23 and know what I know now. I just turned 75 last December. My doctor says I am in great shape for my age. All I can say is just be careful and try not to do a lot of stupid things. I did some while I was young, but I was lucky and never got hurt or injured. Most of all, stay positive. Even when things look bad, they will get better. Also, if you have problems, don't be afraid to ask for help. There are lots of people who can help. Believe me, I have been there. Just enjoy your life the best you can. Don't worry, be happy.
 
I don't envy today's kids and future adults. Society has became as divisive as ever. Things were much simpler when I was in my 20's.

Back then, fuel was under a buck. Old timers were telling me it was 25¢, 50¢, etc. back in the day.
Old timers! I remember when I paid the high price of 10 cents a gallon for gas. I also remember going to a Burger Chef with my girlfriend and getting two cheeseburgers, two orders of fries, and a small coke each for under a dollar. But, I was only making 1 dollar an hour where I worked. This was in the mid 1960's.
 
Sorry, I'm already sure this will be too long, but the suggestion will make more sense, if I tell you the whole deal.
My parents raised us to be very independent, for example it didn't occur to me to mention to them that I had decided to go to college until I learned around Thanksgiving that there would be a Christmas holiday and being out of school for a couple of weeks I planned to come and visit them. My wife needed to talk to her mommy at least daily and more.

When Dad was around 80 y/o I suggested to him that while he wasn't old yet, when he did get old and croaked there would be all those things that only he knows and they will be lost forever. He really needs to write them down so we can refer to his notes when we need to ask him a question, but he isn't there anymore. He said, I wouldn't know what to write about, if you ask questions I'll be happy to answer them. That's my point! I don't even know what questions to ask. Oh. End of discussion and on to other topics.

Six months later I got a 5" x 7" x 1" thick, Big Chief tablet in the mail from him. He had filled out the front and back of every page with things he remembered. Here's where he owned a pool hall at one time? WTF? All about a dog they once owned - how to replace the brake linings in a Ford Model-T. Family things births, deaths, marriages. . . . . .

I copied it all down into a word processor and though I would try to edit it and put it in chronological order. In just a few minutes I realized it would lose entirely his touch. I just entered it as was, jumping around from topic to topic, event here to something entirely unrelated. I formattted it for 8 1/2 x 11 pages, but printed it out on 11 x 17 green bar computer paper. So there was about a 1/3 of a page on the right of each page for making notes. And sent it back to him for editing.

In a few months I got another big envelope from him with the green bar in it. The first page had a few notes and additions at the side, the second page had the blank area filled in completely, the third page ran out of space and he turned it over and filled out the WHOLE 11 x 17 side of every page. I entered all this into the word processor and wound up with around 75 pages that the family generations now finds priceless.

So, around 30 years ago I started mine and just add things that I think some distant descendant may with to know. I'm up to around 150 pages of family history, part II. Both books are a mix of historical event perspective, family drama, fun and tragedy, economics, politics, religion, etc. In no particular order.

I suggest if you are beginning to feel a little oldddd, you consider starting such a project. It might become fun for you and will be an irreplaceable document for someone you haven't yet and will never meet.
 
Great idea, but too much effort. Who has time for such things these days ;)

Seriously, wish I did something like that in younger years, along with more pics.
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Great idea, but too much effort. Who has time for such things these days ;)

Seriously, wish I did something like that in younger years, along with more pics.
What a great idea. It just never occured to me to include pics. I will do it, thanks.
 
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Here's a brief rundown of how I journaled and now diary. In the summer of 1987, when our fifth child (a son) was one year old (and I was coming up on 35), I started a hand-written journal, committed to at least one entry per month: that seemed like a big commitment. This was in dedicated journal books of 100 sheets each (acid free paper supposed to endure a thousands years, heh), written in HB pencil on one side (leaving room opposite for later emendations, which have been rare enough). I have nine of these, going up to as late as October 2020, where I finished up and even wrote "The End": I had my reasons for no longer doing that iteration of personal history. Overlapping with those nine volumes of journal were four years of computer diary, from late 1998 through late 2002, then I bagged that when the entries became sporadic (i.e., no longer a diary). I was writing to two of our sons on LDS missions, which were one email a week: when that was over, I continued for years (up to again, October 2020) to write a weekly email to the family. Since bagging those chronicling efforts, I have been keeping a diary on my computer: up to 229 pages so far: it is dull reading, mingled with observations and outrage (lots to be outraged about these days). It is probably cathartic as well, since I am in a decades-long habit of doing this and wouldn't know what to do with myself if I completely quit (even though at the end of my hand-written journal I asserted to be doing exactly that: then went on to write via laptop).
 
At the age of 59 my best advice is to live in the moment and at a moderate pace. Time goes unbelievably fast, don't waste it on the past or worrying about the future. The stop and smell the roses thing is real. 60. 60 was always kind of in the background of my mind somewhere floating around, not really in view, more like a distant awareness. Then one day it was like when you look through one one of those view finder things and click it and all the sudden there it was, right in front of my face. I swear the last 40 years went by in like 20 minutes. I have maybe 20 or 30 years left, like 15 minutes? Live in the moment. And don't overbook yourself to the point of living in a blur.

Money....there's a book called The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley. Excellent read.

Otherwise (IMO) the name of the game is to spend less than you make, from the beginning. If you're not one to invest yourself then put it in a 401K or an IRA. Just put it somewhere. I started working part time 5 years ago and the only reason I kept and keep working is access to decent healthcare. Otherwise I would have been retired at 54. My peers, not so much. They'll be working into their 70s. Why - because every time they got a raise or promotion they got a bigger house, a boat, more cars, etc. Lots of stuff, lots of debt, and inadequate retirement funds. They're my college friends, 11 of us still hanging out 40 years later. The plan always was to revert back to our 20s lifestyle in retirement. Then the retirement home thing - no problem, it'll be the dorm all over again. But no, here we are and only a few of us are financially stable enough to dance like no one's watching. Some will be lucky to get a blanket with their box under the bridge. Dang it. A little dramatized I know, but young one, live below your means. That all it takes, really, that's it.

Health. It wasn't until my 50s that I thought much about it. Ya know how when you get an ache or pain it just eventually goes away? Not anymore. If it goes away it just means it moved somewhere else. I never really abused myself physically. My 50s have been like the decade of discovery though, discovery of what my aging stuff is going to be. Like multiple arm and hand surgeries. Joint issues. Other stuff. Nothing so far that's going to kill me, but huh? Where did all this come from, seemingly suddenly out of left field? I almost never went to the doctor. Now they're programmed into my google maps app. And I'm not even old yet, I know this. Medical science is amazing. But is it? I had an elderly gentleman tell me one time "I keep breaking and they keep fixing me. I can't tell if they're helping me live longer or die slower". Hm. Take care of yourself, be moderate. Moderation is key. Entering this stage of life healthy really does make a difference.

One thing I really wish I would have done is journal. I have so many fantastic memories, but they're fading, they're getting blurry. I wish I had something to read so I could get back into my mind when I was there. I knew a woman one time who's mother journaled daily since she was 8 years old. She was born in 1916 and died at age 96. It was like her life story, literally. And history you would never find in a book.

Ok that was a post turned dissertation. Sorry.....
 
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