EBC Red stuff replacement? Cant stand noise

[cLaw]

Hey everyone, I upgraded to EBC red stuff for the common issue of vibration, but honestly the vibration did not improve THAT much and the squeal from the brakes is pretty unbearable. I can't even drive the car with the windows down, every passenger goes through the same loop of questions "Oh are those your brakes?...Yea but you don't get it I had to stop this vibration but then these are a bit louder xyz," driving in slow traffic is almost embarrassing as my car is emitting this high pitched squeak every half second and I'm tired of it.

I'd rather just go back to stock or a different pad if possible.

Does anyone have any recs besides stock that do not squeal on every instance of braking?

 

[Daniel @ K8 Stinger Store]

Yeah absolutely.

@cLaw, the EBC Red Stuff pads are more aggressive than most and, in some cases, produce excess noise. I would suggest a more street-able pad like our K8SS Elite Sport Ceramic Pads. These pads are still a ceramic compound, eliminating the vibration and brake dust while performing better than OEM.

I can also help you with a discount on these, just send me a message!

 

[Snowwhite]

how many miles on the rotors? and who installed the pads? there is a 200-300 mile period that new pads take to break in. You can also bed them by taking a few hard braking sessions without stopping and then driving for a bit (a highway really early on a saturday or sunday are best for this since you don't have to stop.) I know there are some EBCs that specifically do not want you to bed them, just drive around normally for a bit.

i'm on PowerStop Z26s and they are dead silent and have been for 20k miles. not to say there's anything wrong with the EBCs, just saying there are options.

 

[NS_Stinger]

If you're concerned about noise look into Centric Posi-Quiet Ceramic Pads or Bosch Quietcast Ceramic Pads, I've ran both and theyre both great for a DD.

 

[cLaw]

how many miles on the rotors? and who installed the pads? there is a 200-300 mile period that new pads take to break in. You can also bed them by taking a few hard braking sessions without stopping and then driving for a bit (a highway really early on a saturday or sunday are best for this since you don't have to stop.) I know there are some EBCs that specifically do not want you to bed them, just drive around normally for a bit.

i'm on PowerStop Z26s and they are dead silent and have been for 20k miles. not to say there's anything wrong with the EBCs, just saying there are options.

I bought used, so stock to like 56k on rotors. I really don't care about the vibration at this point, just don't want this loud ass squeal. I don't think EBC is bad by any means, just wasn't well informed when I purchased on what I was getting into. I've had like a year of dealing with it and now I'm pretty over it. Thanks for recs

pads were installed by a shop by me, honestly was too lazy for this one lol

 

[Volfy]

Quality street pad usually don't squeal loudly when brand new, or nearly new. They might start to hiss when they wear thin towards the end of their service life. Any type of squeal or hiss means there is high frequency vibration going on, when means the pads are moving around in ways they aren't supposed to. Unless you know for a fact the install was done correctly, with properly resurfaced, or new, rotors, even the best pads can perform poorly.

Add to this the stories posted here of folks stomping on their brand new pads from high speed, because they read somewhere that's how you're supposed to be in new pads. I'm no longer surprised to hear all these problems.

 

[Thomby]

I've had like a year of dealing with it

I haven't run Red Stuff but from the many recommendations I've seen for them over the years, I did not think aggressive squealing was part of the experience. I have seen posts asking about it when new, and responses that it's just the EBCs scraping off the remains of your prior pads and then bedding into the rotors.

If you've had them a year I'm guessing it's not that, but before you ditch them entirely, have you tried a traditional bedding process? Handful of increasingly aggressive brake applications in a row followed by a cruise without stopping to cool everything down. You could also slather the pad backs and sliding surfaces to see if that removes any weird vibrations.

 

[cLaw]

I haven't run Red Stuff but from the many recommendations I've seen for them over the years, I did not think aggressive squealing was part of the experience. I have seen posts asking about it when new, and responses that it's just the EBCs scraping off the remains of your prior pads and then bedding into the rotors.

If you've had them a year I'm guessing it's not that, but before you ditch them entirely, have you tried a traditional bedding process? Handful of increasingly aggressive brake applications in a row followed by a cruise without stopping to cool everything down. You could also slather the pad backs and sliding surfaces to see if that removes any weird vibrations.

Yes, I'm pretty cautious when installing things and try to do everything as correct as possible. I looked up everything I could to proceed correctly after they were installed, but that sound remained. Whenever I tried to look it up even on the forum in regards to ebc, many just said things along the lines of "pay to play etc, this is a performance pad it will happen, good pad = louder shit pad = quiet and comfort, etc."

Will begin to look and see if the problem lies elsewhere lol

 

[cLaw]

Quality street pad usually don't squeal loudly when brand new, or nearly new. They might start to hiss when they wear thin towards the end of their service life. Any type of squeal or hiss means there is high frequency vibration going on, when means the pads are moving around in ways they aren't supposed to. Unless you know for a fact the install was done correctly, with properly resurfaced, or new, rotors, even the best pads can perform poorly.

Add to this the stories posted here of folks stomping on their brand new pads from high speed, because they read somewhere that's how you're supposed to be in new pads. I'm no longer surprised to hear all these problems.

Lol, I did not install them so by nature I can't be 100% confident at all. I followed all of EBCs instructions following installation and did not do anything outside of that. When looking up the pad on the forum I initially saw some saying that they experienced similar things, so I brushed it off to be honest. This is the first time I'm actually looking into it at all

 

[Thomby]

When looking up the pad on the forum I initially saw some saying that they experienced similar things

I really don't think the Red Stuff are known for noise as they're a pretty mild performance pad. Highly recommend starting with pad bedding (6-8 aggressive stops in a row followed by cooldown cruise) to try to remove any remaining old pad residue and ensure yours are making uniform contact, then if it persists try greasing the sliding surfaces & pins.

 

[cLaw]

I really don't think the Red Stuff are known for noise as they're a pretty mild performance pad. Highly recommend starting with pad bedding (6-8 aggressive stops in a row followed by cooldown cruise) to try to remove any remaining old pad residue and ensure yours are making uniform contact, then if it persists try greasing the sliding surfaces & pins.

Will of course give it a try, thank you.