Double Prototype Drive Review (Korea & Sweden)

[Bamm1]

http://www.evo.co.uk/kia/stinger-gt...drive-we-experience-the-hottest-kia-yet-twice

Nothing about being faster than the 340i in this time around

 

[app_master]

The photo's is this article are nice.

 

[app_master]

Another article I found from same prototype drive event; https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2018-kia-stinger/preview/

This one confirms a few bits of information I had not read/heard prior;

• For the US, Kia will offer four stylish 18- or 19-inch wheel designs providing additional visual attitude.
• Kia's UVO infotainment system will be standard on all Stingers capable of running both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

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[hej]

Another article I found from same prototype drive event; https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2018-kia-stinger/preview/

This one confirms a few bits of information I had not read/heard prior;

• For the US, Kia will offer four stylish 18- or 19-inch wheel designs providing additional visual attitude.
• Kia's UVO infotainment system will be standard on all Stingers capable of running both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

Picture from...

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Yup. You can see two of the other wheel designs at kiastingerclub.com. Kia has also indicated that the wheels on the GT will be staggered, though I'm not sure if this applies to the AWD version or only the RWD.

 

[app_master]

You mean those kiastingerclub images or stop trolling
Ok, Yes Iv'e seen them there before. I guess they can be considered official(ish).

 

[hej]

You mean those kiastingerclub images or stop trolling
Ok, Yes Iv'e seen them there before. I guess they can be considered official(ish).

Sonnova B...
yes, sorry.

 

[Bamm1]

Yup. You can see two of the other wheel designs at kiastingerclub.com. Kia has also indicated that the wheels on the GT will be staggered, though I'm not sure if this applies to the AWD version or only the RWD.

The Stinger GT AWD I saw at the Auto Show had the staggered set up (225 front, 255 rear - Michelin PSS). The Kia rep didn't think this would change for the production version.

This aligns with other competitors. If you get the "Track Handling Package" on the 340i xDrive you get a staggered setup (same sizes as the GT, 225/255).


The new RS3 (w/ AWD) even offers a staggered setup in reverse (255 front, 235 rear).

 

[hej]

The Stinger GT AWD I saw at the Auto Show had the staggered set up (225 front, 255 rear - Michelin PSS). The Kia rep didn't think this would change for the production version.

This aligns with other competitors. If you get the "Track Handling Package" on the 340i xDrive you get a staggered setup (same sizes as the GT, 225/255).


The new RS3 (w/ AWD) even offers a staggered setup in reverse (255 front, 235 rear).

This is good to hear. It seemed to me like most companies were doing staggered RWD and symetrical AWD.

 

[Kia Stinger]

I see you guys like to share links from over there. No problem. I opened it up. When this site first went live somebody was spamming links to that place. If it doesn't happen again I'll leave it be...

You mean those kiastingerclub images or stop trolling
Ok, Yes Iv'e seen them there before. I guess they can be considered official(ish).

Sonnova B...
yes, sorry.

 

[Jenny Wang]

Why do staggered wheels help a car handle better? Larger wheels make a difference too. Right?

 

[hej]

Why do staggered wheels help a car handle better? Larger wheels make a difference too. Right?

Staggered wheels mean wider rears in this case. It's a given that bigger demands are being put on the rear tires in a RWD car, so wider tires = more grip. Things are a bit more balanced with AWD cars that default to a more even split of power, so often times manufacturers put even sized tires on all four corners with the AWD versions of their cars.

 

[Bamm1]

Why do staggered wheels help a car handle better? Larger wheels make a difference too. Right?

Tire width [in mm] (the bolded number here: 225/40R-19) can have both positive and negative effects.

• Some positives: reduced braking distance, improved handling (larger contact patch), improved acceleration (if traction off the line is an issue), aesthetics (old school RWD performance cars had fat(ter) rear tires, some people still like that look today)
• Some negatives: Reduced fuel economy (more rolling resistance, etc.), more road noise, tire warranty*

It looks like Hyundai / Kia keeps the staggered set up regardless of whether you choose RWD or AWD (the G90 3.3T HTRAC has 245 front and 275 rear). From what I understand, when Genesis models with the HTRAC AWD system are put in "sport" mode they send 90% of their power to the rear wheels.

* Most tire company's cut their warranty in half if you run a staggered set up. For example, the Michelin PSS max performance summer tires that the Stinger GT (allegedly) will come with from the factory have a 30,000 mile warranty when used in a square set up (same size tires on all four wheels). In the staggered configuration used on the BMW 340i, Stinger GT, etc. it is reduced to 15,000 miles. This mostly has to do with the inability to rotate the tires from front to back.

 

[hej]

From what I understand, when Genesis models with the HTRAC AWD system are put in "sport" mode they send 90% of their power to the rear wheels.

I would like the option of 100%

Most tire company's cut their warranty in half if you run a staggered set up.

And for good reason. The rear tires that came with my BMW literally lasted 13 months.

 

[Bamm1]

I would like the option of 100%

I am not sure the system could allow no power to the front (like the Audi Ultra system does to the rear). But Kia could "tune" the system to their liking. I am guessing the Stinger GT's AWD system will be closest to the 2018 G80 Sport as far as tuning goes.

And for good reason. The rear tires that came with my BMW literally lasted 13 months.

I will likely be swapping winter and summer sets so lets hope I can really drag out that 13 months, haha.

 

[ballistic]

i've never before had a high performance car where i left the stock tires on. i don't know why manufactures don't just use the best from the get go. i suppose they need to blend performance with quietness and smoothness and blah blah blah. if that's the case then give the option for the customer to choose what he likes.

 

[hej]

i've never before had a high performance car where i left the stock tires on. i don't know why manufactures don't just use the best from the get go. i suppose they need to blend performance with quietness and smoothness and blah blah blah. if that's the case then give the option for the customer to choose what he likes.

Most higher performance cars I've seen give the option of "summer tires" of some sort. The Michelins that are on the show cars appear to be higher end tires.

 

[Jenny Wang]

Staggered wheels mean wider rears in this case. It's a given that bigger demands are being put on the rear tires in a RWD car, so wider tires = more grip. Things are a bit more balanced with AWD cars that default to a more even split of power, so often times manufacturers put even sized tires on all four corners with the AWD versions of their cars.

Thank you for the explanation. I wonder if anyone ever put wider tires on the front on a front wheel drive car.

 

[hej]

Thank you for the explanation. I wonder if anyone ever put wider tires on the front on a front wheel drive car.

 

[Bamm1]

Thank you for the explanation. I wonder if anyone ever put wider tires on the front on a front wheel drive car.

The 2018 Audi RS3 (which is actually AWD) has a factory option for 255/30R19 front and 235/35R19 rear.

 

[Jenny Wang]

Oh, goodness, I didn't know people actually did that. It makes sense for performance I guess. Aesthetically, not to cool.