3.3TT Doing a muffler, resonator and secondary cat delete

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Im thinking about going to a local exhaust shop and doing a muffler, resonator and secondary cat delete. Is the car gonna run fine with all this or am I going to need a tune? What kind of power gains can I expect? And how bad will this mess up my warranty?
 
You're gonna hate yourself when it's done. Headache inducing DRONE. Everything in your car vibrating and buzzing. I had muffler deletes for 2 days and I will never recommend that to anyone with Stinger. I couldn't imagine doing muffler, resonator, and cat deletes. Won't affect warranty unless they can prove the mods are the cause of the problem.
 
Power gains? not much at all, but the car will become very annoying to drive.
 
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I think it’ll be raspy too.
 
You're gonna hate yourself when it's done. Headache inducing DRONE. Everything in your car vibrating and buzzing. I had muffler deletes for 2 days and I will never recommend that to anyone with Stinger. I couldn't imagine doing muffler, resonator, and cat deletes. Won't affect warranty unless they can prove the mods are the cause of the problem.
How bad of drone would there be with just a secondary cat and resonator delete?
 
why do you want to cut the resonators? That offers no performance gain. You're better off getting a legit exhaust system that is specifically designed to sound better without added drone and improve flow than cutting up the stock one.
 
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why do you want to cut the resonators? That offers no performance gain. You're better off getting a legit exhaust system that is specifically designed to sound better without added drone and improve flow than cutting up the stock one.
To be honest, I just want the car to be louder and faster, but it’s a lot cheaper for me to take it to a shop than to buy a whole exhaust system
 
Loud doesn't mean fast. Yes its cheaper but man i have to agree with everyone saying that you're not going to be happy. The minimal gains aren't worth the literal headaches. Just save the cash you have and tuck aside some more for a full system. Look at the classifieds on here and pick up a used one.
 
Loud doesn't mean fast. Yes its cheaper but man i have to agree with everyone saying that you're not going to be happy. The minimal gains aren't worth the literal headaches. Just save the cash you have and tuck aside some more for a full system. Look at the classifieds on here and pick up a used one.
I’m aware of that but they sort of go hand in hand, by making a car louder you have to remove some sort of restriction, which generally makes the car just a wee bit faster. I have been keeping my eye on the classifieds as I still require a jb4 and intakes
 
It's more than restrictions. There's a lot of R&D done to tune exhausts so they sound great and don't rattle your brains out of your skull. Resonators don't really have any restrictions they just reduce resonance at certain frequency ranges.

Good thing about getting something that's prebuild and designed properly is 2 fold, you can return it to stock if you have to.

But, If you're dead set on ruining your driving experience Just start with removing the mufflers and leaving the rest alone.

You aren't going to go noticeably faster even if you take the entire exhaust off, but you will piss off your neighbors.
 
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Maybe its an age and/or experience thing. For me, after multiple builds of all types of rides, super loud wore off a long time ago. I still love a good sounding exhaust but when you get into the pissed off weedeater, i dont get it. And never really did. I have a funny feeling thats where it would end up at sound wise.
And going back to your OP, you asked about the cats and warranty. Did you buy your car outright? If you did it doesn't matter, but if the bank technically own your car you could potentially have issues if something happened. Most of the time there's a magic little paper you sign that says you wont remove the cats or emission stuff. Hence the "cat back" exhaust systems. If you dont care, like i said it doesn't matter
 
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I wasn’t sure what I was going to like but I knew I wasn’t completely sold on the sound of the cat backs available. I bought the Tork Motorsports muffler deletes but also purchased Vibrant performance resonators (off Amazon for easy returns if necessary). After a week with just the muffler deletes I loved the sound except for the drone so I welded in the resonators and couldn’t be happier with the sound. I do still want “real” tips though.
 
Im thinking about going to a local exhaust shop and doing a muffler, resonator and secondary cat delete. Is the car gonna run fine with all this or am I going to need a tune? What kind of power gains can I expect? And how bad will this mess up my warranty?
I did pretty much everything you plan on doing aside from the resonator. I have a complete custom exhaust setup, I didn't pay $2000 for downpipes and a catback. I paid around $640, just make sure you bring it to an experienced exhaust shop. I had people from different age groups tell me it sounds fine, not too loud, not too quiet. You will also get a nice burble when you let off the throttle and just cruise.

The stinger already comes with 2 high flow cats right before the down pipes. Change the down pipes since there are weird oval sections at the bottom, not sure why they did that but changing the diameter mid exhaust never seemed like a good idea. I removed the secondary CATs, just make sure where ever you live allows you to run high flow CATs. If not you would have to keep the secondary CATs, that's probably why Kia added them to begin with.

The stock exhaust had something that resembled an X pipe but it's not real. It's just a metal bar that is welded to hold the two pipes together. Adding an X pipe or H pipe in the setup would be beneficial. Really depends on what kind of sound you want coming out of it and where you want the improvement. I think H pipes were better for higher RPMs or something like that and X pipes were better for lower.

Keep the factory resonator, I kept my factory resonators since they don't have a performance impact. The X pipe alone will add a nice sound to the car, a nice deep rumble. If you want to be safe and reduce the possibility of making too much noise, Magna Flow makes an X pipe housed in a muffler. That adds weight and bulk so I didn't bother, I just put on a standard X pipe. Not sure if they have an H pipe in a muffler.

You can delete the rear mufflers, there are some weird twists and turns in the pipes that go into the muffler. You can have the shop make a more straight pipe design, just make sure you follow the stock mounting points and curves to avoid conflictions. Also try to use the stock mounting rubber, that will greatly reduce any drone but not all. That's just the nature of removing parts that are designed to keep the car quiet.

If your stinger has the active exhaust functionality, just make sure they retain that. They can simply just cut off the 4 pipes at the end and weld on a Y pipe to where the muffler used to be. I don't suggest you only keep the small section of the active exhaust. I have seen videos where they cut off that small section and welded it back on, the rattle sounded like crap. This will also help you avoid engine codes.

As far as the tune goes, you really don't need to get one to see any benefits. A tune will obviously give you more gains, but it's only one piece of the puzzle. Everything you do to your car has a cumulative gain. For example don't expect to push 10 PSI over stock and get major gains, you'll need to upgrade the intercooler too or your IAT's will just eat up all your performance.

I personally haven't put my car on a dyno because it's really hard on your car. I wouldn't be able to tell you how much power gain there would be from just doing the exhaust. There are shops out there that show videos of a dyno run before and after an exhaust change. They usually get from 15WHP to 20WHP gain by just changing the exhaust. You could possibly gain more since usually these shops still have some kind of muffler and secondary CAT. Honestly though the HP number is just a bragging tool these days, as long as you like the way it drives it doesn't matter.

The exhaust system doesn't usually have any warranty to begin with. Kind of like your brake rotors and brake pads. Besides I see you're in the US so you have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on your side.

Remember, your stinger is your stinger. I'm sorry you wanted information and people just blasted you with their opinions. I have actually done what you're planning to do and if you would like a video of what my car sounds like I would be happy to take some time to record something. The car runs perfectly fine and from what I can tell the sensors are before the downpipes. The car won't throw any engine codes unless they ark weld your car to death or mess up the active exhaust motors.
 
I did pretty much everything you plan on doing aside from the resonator. I have a complete custom exhaust setup, I didn't pay $2000 for downpipes and a catback. I paid around $640, just make sure you bring it to an experienced exhaust shop. I had people from different age groups tell me it sounds fine, not too loud, not too quiet. You will also get a nice burble when you let off the throttle and just cruise.

The stinger already comes with 2 high flow cats right before the down pipes. Change the down pipes since there are weird oval sections at the bottom, not sure why they did that but changing the diameter mid exhaust never seemed like a good idea. I removed the secondary CATs, just make sure where ever you live allows you to run high flow CATs. If not you would have to keep the secondary CATs, that's probably why Kia added them to begin with.

The stock exhaust had something that resembled an X pipe but it's not real. It's just a metal bar that is welded to hold the two pipes together. Adding an X pipe or H pipe in the setup would be beneficial. Really depends on what kind of sound you want coming out of it and where you want the improvement. I think H pipes were better for higher RPMs or something like that and X pipes were better for lower.

Keep the factory resonator, I kept my factory resonators since they don't have a performance impact. The X pipe alone will add a nice sound to the car, a nice deep rumble. If you want to be safe and reduce the possibility of making too much noise, Magna Flow makes an X pipe housed in a muffler. That adds weight and bulk so I didn't bother, I just put on a standard X pipe. Not sure if they have an H pipe in a muffler.

You can delete the rear mufflers, there are some weird twists and turns in the pipes that go into the muffler. You can have the shop make a more straight pipe design, just make sure you follow the stock mounting points and curves to avoid conflictions. Also try to use the stock mounting rubber, that will greatly reduce any drone but not all. That's just the nature of removing parts that are designed to keep the car quiet.

If your stinger has the active exhaust functionality, just make sure they retain that. They can simply just cut off the 4 pipes at the end and weld on a Y pipe to where the muffler used to be. I don't suggest you only keep the small section of the active exhaust. I have seen videos where they cut off that small section and welded it back on, the rattle sounded like crap. This will also help you avoid engine codes.

As far as the tune goes, you really don't need to get one to see any benefits. A tune will obviously give you more gains, but it's only one piece of the puzzle. Everything you do to your car has a cumulative gain. For example don't expect to push 10 PSI over stock and get major gains, you'll need to upgrade the intercooler too or your IAT's will just eat up all your performance.

I personally haven't put my car on a dyno because it's really hard on your car. I wouldn't be able to tell you how much power gain there would be from just doing the exhaust. There are shops out there that show videos of a dyno run before and after an exhaust change. They usually get from 15WHP to 20WHP gain by just changing the exhaust. You could possibly gain more since usually these shops still have some kind of muffler and secondary CAT. Honestly though the HP number is just a bragging tool these days, as long as you like the way it drives it doesn't matter.

The exhaust system doesn't usually have any warranty to begin with. Kind of like your brake rotors and brake pads. Besides I see you're in the US so you have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on your side.

Remember, your stinger is your stinger. I'm sorry you wanted information and people just blasted you with their opinions. I have actually done what you're planning to do and if you would like a video of what my car sounds like I would be happy to take some time to record something. The car runs perfectly fine and from what I can tell the sensors are before the downpipes. The car won't throw any engine codes unless they ark weld your car to death or mess up the active exhaust motors.
I wasn't blasting him i was simply stating that hacking chunks of the exhaust off isnt going to get him what he wants.

Good write up though.
 
I wasn't blasting him i was simply stating that hacking chunks of the exhaust off isnt going to get him what he wants.

Good write up though.
I second this!!
 
I did pretty much everything you plan on doing aside from the resonator. I have a complete custom exhaust setup, I didn't pay $2000 for downpipes and a catback. I paid around $640, just make sure you bring it to an experienced exhaust shop. I had people from different age groups tell me it sounds fine, not too loud, not too quiet. You will also get a nice burble when you let off the throttle and just cruise.

The stinger already comes with 2 high flow cats right before the down pipes. Change the down pipes since there are weird oval sections at the bottom, not sure why they did that but changing the diameter mid exhaust never seemed like a good idea. I removed the secondary CATs, just make sure where ever you live allows you to run high flow CATs. If not you would have to keep the secondary CATs, that's probably why Kia added them to begin with.

The stock exhaust had something that resembled an X pipe but it's not real. It's just a metal bar that is welded to hold the two pipes together. Adding an X pipe or H pipe in the setup would be beneficial. Really depends on what kind of sound you want coming out of it and where you want the improvement. I think H pipes were better for higher RPMs or something like that and X pipes were better for lower.

Keep the factory resonator, I kept my factory resonators since they don't have a performance impact. The X pipe alone will add a nice sound to the car, a nice deep rumble. If you want to be safe and reduce the possibility of making too much noise, Magna Flow makes an X pipe housed in a muffler. That adds weight and bulk so I didn't bother, I just put on a standard X pipe. Not sure if they have an H pipe in a muffler.

You can delete the rear mufflers, there are some weird twists and turns in the pipes that go into the muffler. You can have the shop make a more straight pipe design, just make sure you follow the stock mounting points and curves to avoid conflictions. Also try to use the stock mounting rubber, that will greatly reduce any drone but not all. That's just the nature of removing parts that are designed to keep the car quiet.

If your stinger has the active exhaust functionality, just make sure they retain that. They can simply just cut off the 4 pipes at the end and weld on a Y pipe to where the muffler used to be. I don't suggest you only keep the small section of the active exhaust. I have seen videos where they cut off that small section and welded it back on, the rattle sounded like crap. This will also help you avoid engine codes.

As far as the tune goes, you really don't need to get one to see any benefits. A tune will obviously give you more gains, but it's only one piece of the puzzle. Everything you do to your car has a cumulative gain. For example don't expect to push 10 PSI over stock and get major gains, you'll need to upgrade the intercooler too or your IAT's will just eat up all your performance.

I personally haven't put my car on a dyno because it's really hard on your car. I wouldn't be able to tell you how much power gain there would be from just doing the exhaust. There are shops out there that show videos of a dyno run before and after an exhaust change. They usually get from 15WHP to 20WHP gain by just changing the exhaust. You could possibly gain more since usually these shops still have some kind of muffler and secondary CAT. Honestly though the HP number is just a bragging tool these days, as long as you like the way it drives it doesn't matter.

The exhaust system doesn't usually have any warranty to begin with. Kind of like your brake rotors and brake pads. Besides I see you're in the US so you have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on your side.

Remember, your stinger is your stinger. I'm sorry you wanted information and people just blasted you with their opinions. I have actually done what you're planning to do and if you would like a video of what my car sounds like I would be happy to take some time to record something. The car runs perfectly fine and from what I can tell the sensors are before the downpipes. The car won't throw any engine codes unless they ark weld your car to death or mess up the active exhaust motors.
Thank you, this is the most helpful reply I have ever had. I changed my mind and decided to keep the resonators and I’ll probably just end up going with a setup similar to yours with the x pipe. If you could post sound clips I would appreciate that
 
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Went to the shop today, ended up getting a muffler delete, resonator delete, added a x pipe and deleted the secondary cats. I’ll post some sound clips later but it doesn’t sound too bad and it only cost me $267 for the work
 
Went to the shop today, ended up getting a muffler delete, resonator delete, added a x pipe and deleted the secondary cats. I’ll post some sound clips later but it doesn’t sound too bad and it only cost me $267 for the work
In for sound clips…interested to see x pipe as well.
 
You're gonna hate yourself when it's done. Headache inducing DRONE. Everything in your car vibrating and buzzing. I had muffler deletes for 2 days and I will never recommend that to anyone with Stinger. I couldn't imagine doing muffler, resonator, and cat deletes. Won't affect warranty unless they can prove the mods are the cause of the problem.
False.. they can deny your warranty over and mods..I have seen it done
 
False.. they can deny your warranty over and mods..I have seen it done
Just because they refuse doesn't mean it's legal to do so. They are just playing on the fact that most people don't want to hire a lawyer to get warranty work done.
 
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