Okay, here we go aaagain. Fine. Because it is you who are mistaken. Here, I will explain again.
You take the poll and assert that since it is near 300 responses it is more rather than less accurate as a determiner of Stinger paint failure incidence; so to you c. two-thirds of Stingers have paint issues (which you have increased to "all" on more than one occasion). If the poll is all you go by that would be true. But OUTSIDE factors impact the strict accuracy of the poll.
Using a poll and ignoring the numbers of the polling base is fallacious. We have over 5K members. They come from the world wide web, mostly from via Google searches. That's how I found this forum; a simple search for "fixing kia stinger rims", or some similar phrase, and voila! here I am. Within a week, I saw my first exposure to the paint chip issues thread. Before I even read it, I posted "
No - Without permanent protective coating", then I got started reading the full (then) 23 pages. I have posted more to this thread than any other; because I am INTERESTED for emotional and "academic" reasons.
Evidently, I am part of an extreme minority: 95% of OUR MEMBERSHIP either are blind to the problem or don't care (they don't notice the paint failing, think it is normal, are too dense to question physical reality, don't worry themselves about what other people are going through, can't be bothered, etc.). Whatever the reason, only 5% have responded. This statistic is constant over the last half year or more (the life of the poll); as the poll has gained hits, pro and con, the response stat has remained constant at c. 5%; with 3% of members saying that they have failing paint / poor quality paint. CONSTANT.
Look at it this way. Say we didn't have any knowledge of the number of Stingers; or the size of this forum's membership. All we had was the poll. Would you be right about two-thirds of all Stingers being cursed with poor paint? The reality (which we hypothetically do not know) is that virtually every member has come across the poll within days of joining up, and frequently thereafter: they just pass by and never even open the thread; thus the only ones who have responded "
No - with(out) permanent protective coating" are the few who opened the thread and participated in the poll: the other 95% either never opened the thread in the first place or never bothered to answer the poll.
But you assert that two-thirds of these disinterested members must have paint issues and are just too dense to notice or care. Ludicrous assertion! Every thread on this forum exudes enthusiastic interest in this car, and a sense of pride dominates. Are you saying that the mass of evidence of Stinger pride/concern is accompanied by two-thirds of owners simply being too dense to notice or care what their cars look like!?
Zero evidence, Forz, for two-thirds (much less your "all") of Stingers having paint quality issues. Massive evidence for c. 3% having issues. And if we count the unknown thousands more who have come across the poll doing just a Google search about "kia stinger paint quality", who have not bothered to sign up so that they can add their disappointment to the poll and let the world know, we either have a much larger population (c. 20K) of uncaring, stupid, dense Stinger owners, or we have, instead, tens of thousands of Stingers with no paint issues at all: the owners just don't see it, so they pass by, or never ask the question in the first place; that would be me.
To prove the point of not caring and passing by (i.e. not being within the poll's purview), I can point to myself: I have ZERO interest in performance
mods; and even less (if that were possible) in what people pay for their cars. At the top of the New Posts listings, on virtually a daily basis, are the Borla, tune, lowering springs, sway bar, and "what did you pay for your Stinger" threads; they are constantly getting bumped to the top: and I have never opened most of them, not once. Am I unaware of what others are doing? Talking about? Not at all. I just, do, not, care. I have no interest, no connection to the topics and they pass by without my participation. If a poll were started, "Exhaust enhancement, Borla or other, or none and why not?"; or "have you paid thus or thus amount?"; or, "have you chipped your car?"; or "lowering springs, yes or no, and why?": my participation would not happen; yet I have a Stinger. If someone concluded from their poll that two-thirds of respondents means that two-thirds of Stingers out there have Borla exhausts on them, and only 33% of all Stingers have no exhaust enhancement at all, they would be completely, inarguably, WRONG.
