Discussion of Stinger paint quality (Was - Paint Chip Issue)

[Jean]

Hoping she comes home today. Waiting on Kia's OK. I inspected it and am completely satisfied (after some back and forth and 60+ days later of course)

 

[Jean]

Hoping she comes home today. Waiting on Kia's OK. I inspected it and am completely satisfied (after some back and forth and 60+ days later of course). Mod time!!!View attachment 12978

 

[MerlintheMad]

Hoping she comes home today. Waiting on Kia's OK. I inspected it and am completely satisfied (after some back and forth and 60+ days later of course)View attachment 12978

You were without your car for sixty days?! I'm glad that the inspection got your thumbs up!

 

[Jean]

Yes Sir! It was a very frustrating 60+ days, but the fight was worthy. I even got the car lowered st no cost for my troubles

 

[MattRain]

A clear bra is not an appropriate solution for a poor paint job. Thats beyond absurd. I know I have been annoying people since the beginning of this thread but I will reiterate, pressure KIA into BUYING BACK your car if you are suffering from these widespread paint issues. Do not take no for an answer. You do not want to be bringing in another party (in addition to your dealership and KIA) like some shitty body shop to deal with this. I am really sorry to see this and I hope it works out for Matt, but I called it. You do not want your new car to go through extensive repainting because issues like this are almost guaranteed.

I'm not saying that a Clear-bra would have fixed this issue. The Repaint on the front bumper was just done wrong and horrible, than the rest of the repaint. I have had some rocks thrown at me since the repaint, hitting different repainted areas than the bumper, and they show no signs of chipping. I am still putting a clearbra on, even if the paint was great, due to where I live.

A quality paint job does not need a clear bra.

When in Arizona, a clear-bra is a necessity if you want to keep the car looking great. More than 1 rock a week gets thrown at me, nature of living in a desert.

Yes it does-no paint job is bulletproof to various sized stones coming at your car at highway speeds.

Live in a desert, have to have a clear bra...

 

[forzanerazzurri]

That's fine advice for someone who doesn't particularly care that they have this car. But for those who really want to keep it for all the other reasons that make it an excellent choice and experience, buyback is not an option. Paint, lamentable as this is, is not a big enough flaw to drop the car. Repainting is the only option for someone who wants THIS car. Getting Kia to honor their paint warranty while it is still in force is the smart move. No sense dumping Kia's reaching out; drawn out and frustrating though it may be for some. Meanwhile, touch up and prettify your Stinger the best you can till a final resolution via the warranty is obtained.

You make it sound like you are banned from purchasing a newer model afterwards or that Stingers are no longer in production. Further, paint failure on a new car is one of the most destructive flaws you can have as far as resale and cost to resolve (for the manufacturer or otherwise). A repaint on a car with defective paint is right up there with catastrophic engine failure for cost of remediation. Stop saying its a trivial issue, its annoying. Again, im not saying drop the model from your driveway all together, I am saying get rid of your particular VIN, and fast.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

I guess I do proper research and only go to places that do high-end work on cars much more expensive than my Kia. Sure, I get a few eyerolls when I roll in with something that cost $40k but they do the job right the first time.

i too was denied use of my own shop. Further, i was barely given details on the shop that would be painting mine. I have decided to skip repaint and move with buyback.

A quality paint job does not need a clear bra.

In AZ this is an absolute MUST - an interesting note here is that the dealer, when discussing the repaint option said they would reinstall my clear bra immediately after the repaint...seems suspicious now given the added research i have done?

 

[MattRain]

In AZ this is an absolute MUST - an interesting note here is that the dealer, when discussing the repaint option said they would reinstall my clear bra immediately after the repaint...seems suspicious now given the added research i have done?

The paint shop that did mine wanted to do the same thing, but wanted way to much for it... hence why I went with a 3rd party... which is when I ran into the 1.5 to 2 month issue. Had I had the paint shop install one right after, what would have happened at this point if I had to repair/replace the front bumper section of the clear-bra... clear coat would have come right off. With the way the paint shop is acting now, they would have blamed me somehow for the shitty clear coat coming off.... as they are now with the flaking.

If anyone is in Arizona, DONT USE Platnium Paint and Body in Queen Creek. Sadly there was a Black Stinger, paper plates, sitting in its lot yesterday.

 

[forzanerazzurri]

i too was denied use of my own shop. Further, i was barely given details on the shop that would be painting mine. I have decided to skip repaint and move with buyback.

Smart man. You are correct, warranty's state that they get to control the process, not you as opposed to an insurance claim where you have the right to choose your own shop. Huge difference.

 

[MerlintheMad]

You make it sound like you are banned from purchasing a newer model afterwards or that Stingers are no longer in production. Further, paint failure on a new car is one of the most destructive flaws you can have as far as resale and cost to resolve (for the manufacturer or otherwise). A repaint on a car with defective paint is right up there with catastrophic engine failure for cost of remediation. Stop saying its a trivial issue, its annoying. Again, im not saying drop the model from your driveway all together, I am saying get rid of your particular VIN, and fast.

I disagree with most of this. And your original comment did not hint at going with a different Stinger.

Well before this point, "we" have argued the pros and cons of repainting affecting resale value. And I am in the camp that a good quality paint job will help, not hinder, the resale value. You make the analogy of catastrophic engine failure, but this fails because a replacement engine that has fewer miles on it than the rest of the car is actually a selling point. So likewise is a repaint that is better than factory. You just have to be fortunate in your body shop.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Smart man. You are correct, warranty's state that they get to control the process, not you as opposed to an insurance claim where you have the right to choose your own shop. Huge difference.

interesting thought as i had not viewed it that way.

However, i dont believe this is technically "warranty" since its a "voluntary campaign?" I dont remember seeing anything stating "warranty" on any paperwork i have received. I could have easily missed it as well. And since they are driving it does make sense.

Biggest problem here is that there is no consistency with the repaint as it is 100% dependent on skill of shop.

Will hate to turn the car back to them when the time comes.

 

[StingerGT68]

i too was denied use of my own shop. Further, i was barely given details on the shop that would be painting mine. I have decided to skip repaint and move with buyback./QUOTE]

Smart, I wouldn't have trusted any ol' paint shop to do this job.

 

[forzanerazzurri]

I disagree with most of this. And your original comment did not hint at going with a different Stinger.

Well before this point, "we" have argued the pros and cons of repainting affecting resale value. And I am in the camp that a good quality paint job will help, not hinder, the resale value. You make the analogy of catastrophic engine failure, but this fails because a replacement engine that has fewer miles on it than the rest of the car is actually a selling point. So likewise is a repaint that is better than factory. You just have to be fortunate in your body shop.

My opinion on the buyback was always predicated on the notion that you would use the funds to buy a new model that was issue free. I am not bashing the car here, I stating that the risks are fully mitigated through the buy back.

Regarding the cost, you kind of missed my point. Ill admit it wasnt that clear in the post. I am talking about the cost to remediate the issue. Forget the resale, youll never walk through the door of reality on that. A properly done repaint of a car could be close to the $8-10,000 mark. That is not a trivial issue. Major paint defects on a new car are absolutely a reason to drop a car (again, the VIN, not the model all together given that the manufacturer remedies the issues at the factory going forward) due to the size of the repair cost, and all of the variables involved in the process of the repaint, regardless of who is paying the bill. You, making this sound like its a leaky tail light or something is disingenuous.

 

[MerlintheMad]

You, making this sound like its a leaky tail light or something is disingenuous.

That would be disingenuous. But where did I ever say such a thing? The owner isn't supposed to foot the bill for the repaint. The warranty is supposed to cover everything. And then the only negative is the hassle of going through hell to get the car looking right; a considerable negative to be sure. If I were Kia, nobody would go away unhappy with the repaint, and "good will" cash would not be only to the Yellows. That kind of favoritism is bad PR.

 

[StungnTn]

It has finally stopped raining here, I took these two pictures after I washed the car. This is what it looks like fully painted, the prior pictures I posted were not the best.

 

[MerlintheMad]

It has finally stopped raining here, I took these two pictures after I washed the car. This is what it looks like fully painted, the prior pictures I posted were not the best.View attachment 13119 View attachment 13120

I just noticed something; your daytime running LED strips are on, but nothing is on in back. Look at my avatar; that's how my back LEDs light up when my front DRLs are on. Or is the lighting messing with the picture exposure, and your rear lights are actually on?

 

[StungnTn]

@MerlintheMad I think it is just the lighting, but I will take a look. I've had issues with my LEDs in the back before.

 

[Ace2Rolex]

The paint on these cars or the application is definitely sub-par.

Panthera Metal owner. June 2018 manufacture date.. This car has more chips in my first three months of ownership than cars I’ve had for 3+ years.

Not very happy about it. It’s like the paint is too soft or something. I even had a triple application of ceramic pro added when I first purchased it. I know the ceramic coat isn’t the same as a 3M front end wrap but considering it’s something in addition to stock paint and it’s being chipped this easily and quickly, I am pretty sour.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

The paint on these cars or the application is definitely sub-par.

Panthera Metal owner. June 2018 manufacture date.. This car has more chips in my first three months of ownership than cars I’ve had for 3+ years.

Not very happy about it. It’s like the paint is too soft or something. I even had a triple application of ceramic pro added when I first purchased it. I know the ceramic coat isn’t the same as a 3M front end wrap but considering it’s something in addition to stock paint and it’s being chipped this easily and quickly, I am pretty sour.

Pictures?

 

[Mach_Tuck]

I just noticed something; your daytime running LED strips are on, but nothing is on in back. Look at my avatar; that's how my back LEDs light up when my front DRLs are on. Or is the lighting messing with the picture exposure, and your rear lights are actually on?

Pics look great.

Regarding the lights...Front DRL only on during daylight. The rears come on when AUTO engages the standing lights during twilight/dusk. OR you could manually trigger both front and rear by setting the stalk to STANDING LIGHTS.