Dealer Markup Dealership Quote for vvt job

[KDM Harley]

Took my 2018 stinger gt1 RWD 144,000 miles to get the cel diagnosed. Always did my oil changes on time. Don’t know why my vvt system is failing. Any suggestions?

 

[Snicklefritz]

I have a CEL issue with our 2.0L that manifested last week. Have an appointment next Monday to diagnose, but our mechanic's OBD scanner said something that included "fuel rail", i.e., the fuel pump system. If KIA confirms, then the TSB on this should pay for it.

But your issue sounds over the top expensive. What can you tell me about any manifesting symptoms to confirm that this is a VVT caused issue? I want to understand.

 

[22WhiteStinger]

Holy crap couldn't you buy a new engine for that price?

 

[KDM Harley]

I have a CEL issue with our 2.0L that manifested last week. Have an appointment next Monday to diagnose, but our mechanic's OBD scanner said something that included "fuel rail", i.e., the fuel pump system. If KIA confirms, then the TSB on this should pay for it.

But your issue sounds over the top expensive. What can you tell me about any manifesting symptoms to confirm that this is a VVT caused issue? I want to understand.

Okay, basically I was driving to work like normal the engine light came on and when I came to a stop light I noticed the engine idling loud.

I took it into my general mechanic who usually does my oil changes and he said he wasnt too sure but the code came up P0014-Exhaust Camshaft Position Timing Over Advanced. He said it could that the solenoids need to be replaced or the cam phaser is stuck open and needs to be replaced. He recommended I take it to the dealership for further inspection.

I did took it to them and they just wanted to replace the whole vvt system including the cams. I said that’s a big hell no.

So now I’m looking for reputable mom pop shops to price out a soon pod and phaser replacement job. And start from there. Also need a general tune up and oil change.

 

[KDM Harley]

Holy crap couldn't you buy a new engine for that price?

I did a quick search, there’s a lot of remanufactured 3.3L engines for roughly between $3,000 - $5,000 with between 30,000 - 70,000 miles, I could only find a few priced as new and they were like $9,000 - $10,000.

 

[22WhiteStinger]

I did a quick search, there’s a lot of remanufactured 3.3L engines for roughly between $3,000 - $5,000 with between 30,000 - 70,000 miles, I could only find a few priced as new and they were like $9,000 - $10,000.

Sorry I meant to say you could get a used engine for cheaper. I highly doubt you would find a brand new engine since the cars aren't made anymore.

 

[KDM Harley]

Sorry I meant to say you could get a used engine for cheaper. I highly doubt you would find a brand new engine since the cars aren't made anymore.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing but I don’t need a new engine, just some components within the vvt system.

 

[KDM Harley]

Update: I put my car in the shop Tuesday at Centric Auto repair in San Marcos. Waiting to hear what they have to say, how much it will be, and how long it will take.

This is the third shop I’ve taken my car to to get the P0014 code diagnosed.

I think it’s dirty vvt ocv exhaust solenoids. But no one wants to do an engine breakdown to find out.

 

[KDM Harley]

New update: it’s Tuesday again. I picked up my car from Centric auto. Paid them $300 total. They changed my oil and diagnosed the cel code P0014 and determined the timing chain is jumped. They quoted me a $3500 50k miles engine swap not including labor. I said no thanks I’ll have to save up for a bit. Also, Saturday I just bought a 2005 Ford Five Hundred for $1000 to replace my rental while I save up for the stinger’s vvt job.

 

[Snicklefritz]

New update: it’s Tuesday again. I picked up my car from Centric auto. Paid them $300 total. They changed my oil and diagnosed the cel code P0014 and determined the timing chain is jumped. They quoted me a $3500 50k miles engine swap not including labor. I said no thanks I’ll have to save up for a bit. Also, Saturday I just bought a 2005 Ford Five Hundred for $1000 to replace my rental while I save up for the stinger’s vvt job.

What is a "jumped" timing chain? What does that do to your engine? Is it buggered then? Third shop saying "we will replace your engine?" Am I reading this right?

 

[KDM Harley]

What is a "jumped" timing chain? What does that do to your engine? Is it buggered then? Third shop saying "we will replace your engine?" Am I reading this right?

Well there’s teeth in gears and cogs connected to the timing chain, I’m assuming something happened to pop the chain into the next tooth ahead on one of those components. So now the phaser is stuck in an advanced position and won’t retard back because the chain is whatever many teeth ahead. I’m not a mechanic that’s just my understanding,

I drove it home. The engine light is still on and still only reads the one code P0014. and it sounds loud. It’s still fast, no smoke no smells, still blows off my valves just fine. It’s just overly loud sounds stressed.. but it’s running.

I’m Driving the Ford Five Hundred until I can save up to have some one really get into it and fix it.

It seems like everyone I took it to didn’t want to do the work.

 

[ht_addict]

Kia Stinger - CVVT Oil Control Valve (OCV) [Bank1/Exhaust] - Engine Control System

Could this maybe need replaced?