3.3TT Class Action Lawsuit: Pulsating Brakes

[RingStingerGT]

I am looking into starting a class action lawsuit against Kia to do a full recall on their brakes and rotors and have everything upgraded so we don't get pulsating brakes after a few thousand miles from warped rotors. So many people complaining about this, and my Kia rep on the VIP line agreed and said they should do a full recall and just aren't doing it. They're replacing my set for free at 22K miles, but they said if it happens again it's on my dime.

Comment below if you've experienced this problem, or would like to add your name to the Class Action. Getting a count...

 

[Manaz]

I don't get the "We only do it once" mentality. If they're doing it at all, they're admitting there is a problem. Putting exactly the same components back on the car, with exactly the same configuration, can only lead to the same result.

 

[itguy61]

I would bet the many people who are dealing with this would support this. How do you get enough on board to convince a law firm to look into this?

This is my third Kia, the other two were flawless. This and the terrible service you get from dealer son this car is a big negative. Another poster on this board had his car down two months due to the drive shaft coming off and severely damaging the car. Kia agreed to replace the car finally, but the whole time they would not even give the guy a decent loaner, they offered a Soul or a Forte form Enterprise. What a way to treat a customer who your car let down and he is probably stuck with a $750 a month payment and all you can do is offer a shit box car, no loaner???

 

[OliverNuther]

Class action lawsuit eh?

Add another option called ‘only in America’ and I’ll vote for that one.

 

[BlaydeX15]

Has anyone posted a video that shows how bad it can get? Mine does it, but I've cleared it a few times by doing the whole "Pad Bedding" technique. It's not nearly as terrible now, so maybe when it comes back, again...

 

[Devin]

My assumption is that to be part of the class, you'll need to have receipts for repairs to show there was an economic impact from Kia's inaction. Is your goal to get compensation from Kia or urge them into devising a permanent fix?

 

[Bonzai]

As i suspected based on other people's comment my problem has returned after Kia replaced the rotors (kept the original pads)
It's not too bad right now and will clear up with some major breaking clean ups (max braking from over 100km/h a couple times and then letting them cool)
The sticky gremlins are back by the looks of it!


Quite annoying have the this reappear after just a few months, when will Kia have a pad replacement that we can select without going aftermarket..

 

[itguy61]

As i suspected based on other people's comment my problem has returned after Kia replaced the rotors (kept the original pads)
It's not too bad right now and will clear up with some major breaking clean ups (max braking from over 100km/h a couple times and then letting them cool)
The sticky gremlins are back by the looks of it!
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Quite annoying have the this reappear after just a few months, when will Kia have a pad replacement that we can select without going aftermarket..

Wow, that is the first good picture of the deposits that I have seen. Can you feel those spots on that rotor?

 

[DiabloStinger]

While I would generally get on board with something like this, I doubt enough people would join on. I bought myself some new pads and rotors already, so why not huh?

 

[Revvdmedia]

Pulsating brakes is actually one of the few common complaints that I don't have against my car, knock on....steel...

My opinion of the matter is that if Kia is equipping the Stinger with brakes that require special actions to keep this from happening (bedding in, periodic bedding/scrubbing through controlled hard braking), that MUST be dictated in the owner's manual at the very minimum.

Let's be honest though, the Stinger is not a supercar or hyper car, it's a GT cruiser and I wouldn't expect the buyers to expect to need to do anything special with the brakes. I'm sure the issues were not part of Kia's intended design, thus is a flaw. To have owners with brake pulsations and needing to change pads to fully relieve the issue is unacceptable.

I would sign a class action IF I had the issue.

 

[RingStingerGT]

My assumption is that to be part of the class, you'll need to have receipts for repairs to show there was an economic impact from Kia's inaction. Is your goal to get compensation from Kia or urge them into devising a permanent fix?

Perm fix

 

[MisterMac]

While I understand the level of dissatisfaction with the brake vibration, I find this endeavor has no value to me. I would've upgraded my pads and rotors anyway. If aftermarket options had been available before my vibration started, I'd have already replaced them without experiencing the vibration.

The pads and rotors are wearable items. Though the shudder is a freaky feeling, it does not keep the car from stopping in an acceptable distance. Therefore, I do not see a safety issue and nothing valid to support making Kia pay for new pads/rotors that are to my personal preference.

 

[westcoastGT]

I always put ceramic pads on my previous BMW's primarily to reduce brake dust ( BMW OEM pads are extrememly soft and throw massive amounts of dust ) .........in every case I was instructed to bed the new pads .......................KIA did not provide this info for the GT's with Brembo Ceramics and they should have ................I had some build up and vibration and did a few high speed braking episodes to clear them and all is good now

 

[Bonzai]

I do see it as a flaw that should be looked into - kudos to Kia to making this car as fast as it is which puts the brakes a heavy load! I love my car enough to forgive this weak point. I've had other cars of similar performance with big brakes and never thought of going aftermarket.

I really hope my new rotors hold out but don't think they will. When pushed i can started to feel the same issues, but hey its good to push the car beyond normal driving and we all pay the price with maintenance

I went to go check the car again and don't see those deposits on the pic - they must have been cleaned up and the surface felt silky smooth.

 

[robert mcgraw]

Yes, Ive had my car for less than a year it has 18,000 miles. Started having issues with braking/vibaration at around 12,000.
My dealers all said they cant even get pads, rotors, or calipers at first. Now they say they can get pads, but will want to turn the rotors down.
The pads of course are the same pads that have caused this issue. Brembo says they cant make pads because of the OEM proprietary constraints.
However, I see the K8 store has "stoptech" aftermarket ceramic pads for the front.
Does anyone have any experience with them ?
If I buy those would you recommend turning rotors or just high speed bedding in with the new ceramic pads?
Absolutely would sign on to class action or at very least a list of owners wanting a resolution from KIA !

 

[Waynerm002]

I have to say, I no longer have the issue. It was still slightly there after changing my pads but i'm at 11K miles now and realized it does not happen anymore. For some it seems to clear up after some time with out changing pads.

 

[StingerHP]

Had vibration at 10k, it was scary braking on the highway

 

[westcoastGT]

Had vibration at 10k, it was scary braking on the highway

press harder . 3-4 times . 70 mph to 20 , then see if it's still there ....................

 

[Revvdmedia]

I could just be lucky that I haven't noticed any brake vibration issues, but I do make some 0-60 runs once in a while, perhaps in places not completely ideal, which then involves me doing some very hard braking to scrub off speed quickly. This may be inadvertently "cleaning" the rotors of brake residue. Also, for other driving habits, I tend to brake later than most people. Basically, I am on the brakes much less and usually smoother than most average drivers, so this may also result in fewer uneven deposits on the rotors.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Yes, Ive had my car for less than a year it has 18,000 miles. Started having issues with braking/vibaration at around 12,000.
My dealers all said they cant even get pads, rotors, or calipers at first. Now they say they can get pads, but will want to turn the rotors down.
The pads of course are the same pads that have caused this issue. Brembo says they cant make pads because of the OEM proprietary constraints.
However, I see the K8 store has "stoptech" aftermarket ceramic pads for the front.
Does anyone have any experience with them ?
If I buy those would you recommend turning rotors or just high speed bedding in with the new ceramic pads?
Absolutely would sign on to class action or at very least a list of owners wanting a resolution from KIA !

Hi Robert, and welcome.

The wisdom says that if you have cementite areas on your rotors, you cannot bed in new pads because the uneven temper of the rotors causes the cementite to stand "proud" above the rest of the rotor surface, thus attracting pad deposits. And cementite areas will not respond to turning of the rotors; it will still be there after being turned. You need new rotors if you have cementite. Changing the pads alone will be a waste of effort and money.