Buying a 2022 GT-Line

[Travis Wills]

why?

I test drove both RWD and AWD and found the RWD version much more fun to drive... was cheaper with better fuel-economy too...

RWD will be the same as AWD in warm dry weather when you are just driving around. However, the second you want to try to push it towards the limits of its acceleration you will see why AWD is better.

If you modify the RWD cars at all they will spin the tires for days. AWD Stingers are actually quite difficult to spin the tires.

Everyone thinks sliding the rear end is all fun and games until the one time it slides when you weren’t expecting it to.

I have always had RWD cars(BMW 330i, G35, G37s(Plural), Q50, and my first car was a Nissan 240sx). So I thought why not get a RWD Stinger?

The Stinger is different than the others. Just sooo much torque right off the line.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

RWD will be the same as AWD in warm dry weather when you are just driving around. However, the second you want to try to push it towards the limits of its acceleration you will see why AWD is better.

If you modify the RWD cars at all they will spin the tires for days. AWD Stingers are actually quite difficult to spin the tires.

Everyone thinks sliding the rear end is all fun and games until the one time it slides when you weren’t expecting it to.

I have always had RWD cars(BMW 330i, G35, G37s(Plural), Q50, and my first car was a Nissan 240sx). So I thought why not get a RWD Stinger?

The Stinger is different than the others. Just sooo much torque right off the line.

I guess my car being stock I don't spin the wheels... too much at least! (thank goodness)

But yeah makes total sense.

Btw nice car history!

 

[stoopid]

AWD buys me a lot of confidence when I mash the pedal, regardless of road, weather, and if I'm in the middle of a turn. RWD is probably more predictable, as-in: if I mash the pedal, in this or that situation, the rear end is going to kick out. Fun and even useful to have RWD in certain situations, but those are rarer in street use.

I'm seeing up to 28MPG highway in comfort (should be 40 front / 60 rear power distribution), about 20MPG around town with start/stop turned off. Not much difference (noted in reviews online as well) in gas saved with RWD.

The cons is having more parts to service and potentially break, the differential will need some maintenance and with more mechanical pieces to drive the front wheels there's more to go wrong someday. That's the price for having AWD though, regardless of vehicle. [although the RWD Stinger, versus a car that's traditionally front wheel drive, also has a differential that will need periodic servicing... this point is a wash with the Stinger but not usually with most other cars]

AWD with average all season tires is about comparable to Front/Rear wheel drive cars with snow tires in the snow, especially if trying to go uphill. That's been my first hand experience at least. No one should drive either like they're invincible. Getting a second set of rims and using snow tires with AWD is the best solution.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Getting a second set of rims and using snow tires with AWD is the best solution.

Not in S. Nevada. Snow tires would be wasting money. A/S is all you need (that's true in the valleys of Utah too). NY? That's got to be an either-or situation. Up-state NY, on the coast? Traveling the state/area a lot or just commuting where keeping the roads cleared is always done? Etc.

 

[Nasscar]

yes, new color for 2022
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Wow....wonder if that is available in Australia or just North America. Certainly a bit different.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

AWD buys me a lot of confidence when I mash the pedal, regardless of road, weather, and if I'm in the middle of a turn. RWD is probably more predictable, as-in: if I mash the pedal, in this or that situation, the rear end is going to kick out. Fun and even useful to have RWD in certain situations, but those are rarer in street use.

I'm seeing up to 28MPG highway in comfort (should be 40 front / 60 rear power distribution), about 20MPG around town with start/stop turned off. Not much difference (noted in reviews online as well) in gas saved with RWD.

The cons is having more parts to service and potentially break, the differential will need some maintenance and with more mechanical pieces to drive the front wheels there's more to go wrong someday. That's the price for having AWD though, regardless of vehicle. [although the RWD Stinger, versus a car that's traditionally front wheel drive, also has a differential that will need periodic servicing... this point is a wash with the Stinger but not usually with most other cars]

AWD with average all season tires is about comparable to Front/Rear wheel drive cars with snow tires in the snow, especially if trying to go uphill. That's been my first hand experience at least. No one should drive either like they're invincible. Getting a second set of rims and using snow tires with AWD is the best solution.

Not in S. Nevada. Snow tires would be wasting money. A/S is all you need (that's true in the valleys of Utah too). NY? That's got to be an either-or situation. Up-state NY, on the coast? Traveling the state/area a lot or just commuting where keeping the roads cleared is always done? Etc.

Thankfully I got lucky this winter and did not have to drive through too much snow... but I was foolish having summer tires on a RWD car... but the only trouble I had was trying to park up a hill but that was figured out pretty quickly... as long as I was driving slowly and carefully the few times we did have snow I was fine. After this summer I will replace my summer tires with all-season tires. I should be fine. The roads get plowed pretty quickly in the winters.

 

[stoopid]

Not in S. Nevada. Snow tires would be wasting money. A/S is all you need (that's true in the valleys of Utah too). NY? That's got to be an either-or situation. Up-state NY, on the coast? Traveling the state/area a lot or just commuting where keeping the roads cleared is always done? Etc.

I didn't state the obvious: if you rarely (if ever) see snow/ice, don't spend money on the once a year you would need the tires (just stay home that one day). Figured we were discussing the need in places where 'winter' happens.

 

[DTD]

Thankfully I got lucky this winter and did not have to drive through too much snow... but I was foolish having summer tires on a RWD car... but the only trouble I had was trying to park up a hill but that was figured out pretty quickly... as long as I was driving slowly and carefully the few times we did have snow I was fine. After this summer I will replace my summer tires with all-season tires. I should be fine. The roads get plowed pretty quickly in the winters.

I am surprised your summer tires worked at all, unless the temperature did not get in the 30's. Summer tires freeze when it gets to cold. Drive like bricks,

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

I am surprised your summer tires worked at all, unless the temperature did not get in the 30's. Summer tires freeze when it gets to cold. Drive like bricks,

There were times temperatures were in the high 20's or low 30's on top of a bit of snow here and there. I drove very slowly and carefully. Granted... when it was snowing seriously in January and February... the majority of those days during those two months I was able to work mostly from home... But yes, I was lucky... I am going to get all-season tires for the next winter...

( when I used to live in Virginia & Maryland I had a set of summer tires and a set of winter tires for my WRX... but we had much more space... and in Florida I only need summer tires... I've only recently moved to New York... )

 

[MerlintheMad]

I am surprised your summer tires worked at all, unless the temperature did not get in the 30's. Summer tires freeze when it gets to cold. Drive like bricks,

Once in a while I'll add some detail to this common assertion. Michelin is avoiding lawsuits. The summer compound is actually viable on warmed up tires well down into the 20s. You don't hoon on them below 40F; you drive like a sane person who understands that his tires' capabilities as UHP disappear below that temperature. The colder it gets the slower you go. "Like hockey pucks" is a more picturesque description to keep in mind (being round already, and used to slide on ice ). When I came down from above 10K feet in the Uinta mountains, it was showing 20F as the outside temperature. There was slush and patches of ice on those twisty bits; the descent wasn't particularly steep, thankfully (a friend on here slid to the bottom of his hill on the OE Michelins commuting to work one morning back in the winter of '18). But I stayed at a sedate 35 MPH and slower yet on the curves. I didn't lose grip once. Also, I would avoid doing that again, rather than use that experience to excuse having another go at winter driving on summer tires. I've never tried to push through a low land winter on the summer tires: my first winter was on the A/S. Riding on Michelins below 40F is not de facto courting death and disaster. Anything above freezing is definitely safe as long as you treat the tires as advertised and leave the "performance driving" to another, warmer day.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Once in a while I'll add some detail to this common assertion. Michelin is avoiding lawsuits. The summer compound is actually viable on warmed up tires well down into the 20s. You don't hoon on them below 40F; you drive like a sane person who understands that his tires' capabilities as UHP disappear below that temperature. The colder it gets the slower you go. "Like hockey pucks" is a more picturesque description to keep in mind (being round already, and used to slide on ice ). When I came down from above 10K feet in the Uinta mountains, it was showing 20F as the outside temperature. There was slush and patches of ice on those twisty bits; the descent wasn't particularly steep, thankfully (a friend on here slid to the bottom of his hill on the OE Michelins commuting to work one morning back in the winter of '18). But I stayed at a sedate 35 MPH and slower yet on the curves. I didn't lose grip once. Also, I would avoid doing that again, rather than use that experience to excuse having another go at winter driving on summer tires. I've never tried to push through a low land winter on the summer tires: my first winter was on the A/S. Riding on Michelins below 40F is not de facto courting death and disaster. Anything above freezing is definitely safe as long as you treat the tires as advertised and leave the "performance driving" to another, warmer day.

That makes perfect sense then!

I do emphasize... I was driving EXTREMELY slowly, safely, and very carefully! Like a little good ol' lady! lmfao!

 

[Aliboy]

Back to the topic....I saw on Car Guru's (I think) that the GT Line arrival must be close as a couple of dealers had them listed. No pics or any other info....

 

[SOCAL2.0]

Since the car is so new most dealers won't deal till they get inventory, you might want to try a car buying service like COSTCO.

 

[Aliboy]

Since the car is so new most dealers won't deal till they get inventory, you might want to try a car buying service like COSTCO.

Well, my lease on my 2018 is up in April. There’s several Kia dealers I can go with, so, we‘ll see...

 

[Transmetal]

AWD with average all season tires is about comparable to Front/Rear wheel drive cars with snow tires in the snow, especially if trying to go uphill. That's been my first hand experience at least. No one should drive either like they're invincible. Getting a second set of rims and using snow tires with AWD is the best solution.

Huh? I don't understand that comment. I've had fwd grand prix's with snow tires for years. They are way more stable, predictable and confidence inspiring than the all seasons that came on my awd Stinger. I hated how the Stinger felt this winter and this wasn't even a bad winter for MN compared to normal. Granted, I'm used to having snow tires not used to the car spinning on barely snow covered roads. I'll be going to 18x8's with snow tires for next year. Then I'll be good.

 

[stoopid]

Huh? I don't understand that comment. I've had fwd grand prix's with snow tires for years. They are way more stable, predictable and confidence inspiring than the all seasons that came on my awd Stinger. I hated how the Stinger felt this winter and this wasn't even a bad winter for MN compared to normal. Granted, I'm used to having snow tires not used to the car spinning on barely snow covered roads. I'll be going to 18x8's with snow tires for next year. Then I'll be good.

"Average" all seasons, meaning something designed for more than light snow. All seasons vary from horrible to near snow tire level traction. The tires in the middle, with decent tread capable of gripping snow well, work fine with AWD.

It's a statement more to reflect the ability for AWD to overcome the shortcomings of ever mediocre tires.

Is "Getting a second set of rims and using snow tires with AWD is the best solution" not definitive enough?

 

[monusa]

Back to the topic....I saw on Car Guru's (I think) that the GT Line arrival must be close as a couple of dealers had them listed. No pics or any other info....

Can't wait!!!!