60-70 miles a day

[boosted1g]

If work climate is that bad then yea a 30 minute commute would be worth it. Either try to buyout your lease or get a beater.

 

[LordKOTL]

At today's gas prices...even regular, that would be brutal...like BROO-TUL! </Ahh-nult>. You'd probably be filling up every week and it'd be about $75 per tankful.

If the pay increase more than offsets the fuel costs, then maybe it'd be worth it, especially since it sounds like your manager couldn't manage a bowel movement without watching a how-to video.

 

[n8hegr8]

At today's gas prices...even regular, that would be brutal...like BROO-TUL! </Ahh-nult>. You'd probably be filling up every week and it'd be about $75 per tankful.

If the pay increase more than offsets the fuel costs, then maybe it'd be worth it, especially since it sounds like your manager couldn't manage a bowel movement without watching a how-to video.

yes i figure id be filling up about every 4-5 days. eco mode gets me 24 or better mpg.
id get paid biweekly, and its 10k more than what im making now. im guessing it would offset the fuel costs.
and then if i buy out my lease, then my monthly note will go up a little bit.

 

[stoopid]

To figure out the commute, use google maps to calculate the home to (new) work route and vice versa, and before leaving the next couple days check google maps to see how the AM and PM commutes actually translate. I can get to my job at 6AM, before rush hour, in under 20 minutes but with traffic it averages 20-30 minutes depending on the day's traffic, accidents, construction, etc. You'd have to check this at the time you'd be driving in the direction you'll be going.

There's no other way to know with any certainty what the average commute time is.

It sounds like the pay raise will at least absorb the added cost of gas and wear, but maybe not the lease overages. You also need to figure that out, otherwise it will cost you more out of pocket and in time spent than the increase pay.

 

[stoopid]

As an aside to your specific work situation, if you think this 'promotion' is a peace offering to get you out of that manager's scope of responsibilities, it's also possible that declining their offer may result in severance. If you think there's a chance of that, and your line of work means you can land new work quickly, then that might be better than complicating your life for what amounts to very little monetary reward after all is said and done. Any happiness gained not working for your current boss (but who knows what awaits at the new position? maybe more of the same if that's the management culture there?), might be lost if the commute becomes a burden and you're not pocketing enough to justify the extra costs to quality of life, less personal time,, etc.

ALSO, fwiw, every mile you commute increases your chances of an accident. We don't have full control of situations, especially being rear ended which has almost happened twice to me in the last 2 years (thankfully in both cases the vehicle behind me went to the shoulder to avoid hitting me). So adding miles especially when traffic is heavy ( = more distracted drivers on the road as a law of averages) is not to be taken lightly IMHO.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I do about 60 to 80 miles daily. Fill it up with 93 once a week and I'm right as rain.

 

[n8hegr8]

there's also IRS mileage reimbursement. .. not sure how that works, but i guess you can claim it or write it off or something come tax time.

edit: nevermind, "commuting expenses are not deductible"

IRS increases mileage rate for remainder of 2022 | Internal Revenue Service

IR-2022-124, June 9, 2022 — The Internal Revenue Service today announced an increase in the optional standard mileage rate for the final 6 months of 2022. Taxpayers may use the optional standard mileage rates to calculate the deductible costs of operating an automobile for business and certain...

www.irs.gov

 

[stoopid]

there's also IRS mileage reimbursement. .. not sure how that works, but i guess you can claim it or write it off or something come tax time.

IRS increases mileage rate for remainder of 2022 | Internal Revenue Service

IR-2022-124, June 9, 2022 — The Internal Revenue Service today announced an increase in the optional standard mileage rate for the final 6 months of 2022. Taxpayers may use the optional standard mileage rates to calculate the deductible costs of operating an automobile for business and certain...

www.irs.gov

I'm not sure that applies unless you're self employed. Are you contract or salary?

 

[LordKOTL]

I do about 60 to 80 miles daily. Fill it up with 93 once a week and I'm right as rain.

True, but on the flipside filling up once a week is about $300 in fuel per month from just the commute alone...based on my gas prices and fuel economy.

In some cases it might be worth it depending on the employment situation in a given locale.

On the other hand, I could think of an imperial buttload of things I'd rather do with a sizable chunk of that $300.

 

[ChaneRZ]

I'd get a DD that has good mpg.

 

[n8hegr8]

True, but on the flipside filling up once a week is about $300 in fuel per month from just the commute alone...based on my gas prices and fuel economy.

In some cases it might be worth it depending on the employment situation in a given locale.

On the other hand, I could think of an imperial buttload of things I'd rather do with a sizable chunk of that $300.

man you've got a point. that 300 right there is the 10k pay increase. thats almost exactly what it is from 26$ an hour to 60k ($30 an hour) after taxes. usually my check biweekly is 1400. if i go to this new job and raise up to 60k, thats only 1700-1800 after taxes every two weeks. im fkg torn what to do. theres too many cons now, going over lease mileage, paying for gas all the time, chance of accident increases, further from home...

 

[Deviate]

man you've got a point. that 300 right there is the 10k pay increase. thats almost exactly what it is from 26$ an hour to 60k ($30 an hour) after taxes. usually my check biweekly is 1400. if i go to this new job and raise up to 60k, thats only 1700-1800 after taxes every two weeks. im fkg torn what to do. theres too many cons now, going over lease mileage, paying for gas all the time, chance of accident increases, further from home...

I run 50 round trip a day. Add in the stupid little runs after work hrs and obviously it goes up on a daily. In all seriousness every time i start job hunting for a shorter commute the powers that be give me a raise. I "unfortunately " like my job and the company is decent to work for. It happened again this week. If i were to ever make a jump it would have to check a lot of boxes in my favor.
Im not unhappy just worn out from the drive. Money is always good, but at what cost? Lost time with family, road rage, accident probability, wear and tear on the ride, you getting worn out from driving, all of that needs to looked at as stated by other members. I know watching the miles click away on my car gets depressing sometimes. Flip side is i bought it to drive it.

In your stated situation, personally its not something I would do. If its for a better mental state and health then maybe its a temporary move? No one says that you have to stay at a job. Even if the raise helps you for 6,9months or even a year it might be something to look at. But again thats a haul every day

 

[boosted1g]

So immediate money wise you are breaking even.
Then it comes down to the other factors. Will you enjoy this position (or workplace environment) more? Will this different position open more doors for you in the future? If the new position is a good opportunity/stepping stone to better things then the short-term loss may be well worth it in the long run.

 

[n8hegr8]

i could turn in my stinger and not pay 650 a month anymore, get some cheap ass depressing p.o.s. to drive. but who would dare turn in a stinger? not i !!!!

 

[stoopid]

man you've got a point. that 300 right there is the 10k pay increase. thats almost exactly what it is from 26$ an hour to 60k ($30 an hour) after taxes. usually my check biweekly is 1400. if i go to this new job and raise up to 60k, thats only 1700-1800 after taxes every two weeks. im fkg torn what to do. theres too many cons now, going over lease mileage, paying for gas all the time, chance of accident increases, further from home...

That's $3600 /year for fuel if that's your actual monthly cost, total. And you're only adding to an existing commute(?) not the whole $3600, so you're only eating a little from that $10k more you're going to be paid(?).

Maths.

 

[Redleg94]

To figure out the commute, use google maps to calculate the home to (new) work route and vice versa, and before leaving the next couple days check google maps to see how the AM and PM commutes actually translate. I can get to my job at 6AM, before rush hour, in under 20 minutes but with traffic it averages 20-30 minutes depending on the day's traffic, accidents, construction, etc. You'd have to check this at the time you'd be driving in the direction you'll be going.

There's no other way to know with any certainty what the average commute time is.

It sounds like the pay raise will at least absorb the added cost of gas and wear, but maybe not the lease overages. You also need to figure that out, otherwise it will cost you more out of pocket and in time spent than the increase pay.

That is definitely a factor. What is the traffic like during commuting hours? The 70-mile commute that I used to make is absolutely horrible as a commute, but on a non-working day? Not a bad drive at all.

Would the commute be more or less than an hour? After suffering through that 70-mile commute for over a year, told the wife we were moving closer to work, and I drew a semicircle that reflected a 30-minute commute that would have little to no traffic. Luckily ended up with one that is 15 minutes or less.

 

[Redleg94]

yep... except no other options from where i was living... also, tn, really no other means of getting there... barely any sidewalks, no bike lanes, no real public transport to speak of... not even other road options lol.. Now i'm about 14 miles from the office IF i have to go in it still only takes me about 50 min since i can come in a different direction.

I feel for you, even with your latest "improved" commute. When I can, I'll take the longer route even if it is a little slower to avoid traffic.

 

[LordKOTL]

That's $3600 /year for fuel if that's your actual monthly cost, total. And you're only adding to an existing commute(?) not the whole $3600, so you're only eating a little from that $10k more you're going to be paid(?).

Maths.

Good point that I missed. What is the OP's current commute--how much longer would it be than the current one?

There are the factors wear-and-tear, his lease, etc. Plus, the commute gas is on top of everything else--including incidental trips like groceries, etc. (unless a significant other uses their vehicle for all of that). But sometimes it can just come down to time. In my opinion everyone's time, even when not working, has value. Even assuming perfect traffic conditions that's 2 hours of the OP's life gone in commuting alone, so the perceived work day is more like 10 hours instead of 8+ (depending on their current commute). That has to be a factor as well. Even though technically that aren't getting paid for their commuting time, it is taking that time away from them and their family. That can make that extra 10k feel less.

Granted, only the OP can say whether or not it's worth it to them. I personally would not feel it's worth it if they had to commute every day. Now, if working remotely for half the week or more was an option...then maybe.

 

[n8hegr8]

not that anyone has to care or be interested, i just like getting my thoughts out on this forum sometimes lol... its therapy..
but anyway, update:

i went to the interview yesterday. took exactly 30 mintues to drive there in heavy traffic, it was 30 miles. i got 30 mpg in eco mode.

almost got smashed from behind because a semi blew a tire a few cars in front of my and traffic almost came to a complete halt. people drive way over the speed limit, so i stayed in the outter right lanes trying to get good gas mileage. people drive crazy in utah.

i saw 2 stingers, a white one in the HOV lane, and one just like mine when i was leaving the interview to get back on the interstate. saw lots of other luxury sports cars. the drive wasnt bad.

supposed to get an offer today. its not as clean as where i work now, but hey, it will be a little bit more money and less work, less stress.

i can see ill probably filling up a lot.

i need to get my map updated, in case it has something to do with KIa Connects Traffic information part. it did show red where it was heavy traffic, so maybe im fine not updating.

 

[MerlintheMad]

people drive crazy in utah.

"County", Utah County is a collection of insane drivers: another factor is that ten times more freeway blockages occur in Utah County than in Salt Lake County: I did this unscientific "study", in situ, as it were, during the year that I was an airport shuttle driver: ten times more "incidents" with slow to stop and go traffic on I-15 in Utah County than in Salt Lake County. Not only do they drive well above the speed limit down there, they also slow down to merge (no doubt causing a lot of those traffic snarls). But the new freeway has helped somewhat in these matters.