New YouTube Video Stinger, BMW and Porsche

[eflyguy]

Paul, it was not directed at you.

The channel that has posted that video, which is composed from other people's content, makes money from every click/view.

They do it intentionally to make money by exploiting other peoples efforts. It's effectively piracy, and if the original creator filed a copyright claim, the video would be removed. Unfortunately this happens so much that they rarely do (file the complaint) and even if they do, enough people clicked on the link when it was first posted that the thieves don't care. They just make another one. There are uncountable examples of people making a living, or significantly subsiding one, by stealing and sharing content that they do not own.

They also choose baitclick style labels so that sites like this might share the link, driving more traffic, therefore revenue, to their channel. Stinger is popular at the moment, and most people don't know (or care) whether the channel is legit.

YouTube doesn't really care either, because they only allow copyright claims by the original creator, and take their time reviewing it and taking action. Why, you say? Well, because any video being viewed is more revenue for them as well!

So I don't like promoting videos like that but, as I stated earlier, it's not against our rules.

 

[Paul32]

Paul, it was not directed at you.

The channel that has posted that video, which is composed from other people's content, makes money from every click/view.

They do it intentionally to make money by exploiting other peoples efforts. It's effectively piracy, and if the original creator filed a copyright claim, the video would be removed. Unfortunately this happens so much that they rarely do (file the complaint) and even if they do, enough people clicked on the link when it was first posted that the thieves don't care. They just make another one. There are uncountable examples of people making a living, or significantly subsiding one, by stealing and sharing content that they do not own.

They also choose baitclick style labels so that sites like this might share the link, driving more traffic, therefore revenue, to their channel. Stinger is popular at the moment, and most people don't know (or care) whether the channel is legit.

YouTube doesn't really care either, because they only allow copyright claims by the original creator, and take their time reviewing it and taking action. Why, you say? Well, because any video being viewed is more revenue for them as well!

So I don't like promoting videos like that but, as I stated earlier, it's not against our rules.

I tried to send you a personal message but the system doesn't allow that. So here is my response:

I got 4 likes and 1 disagree. Looking at my post, you have to be disagreeing with my comment or the video content. Instead of disagreeing, why not just compose your own response explaining the issue with this video? I'm not concerned, and evidently the original author's of the video, with who is making money from their effort. It was a good effort in pulling it together and made an interesting video for Stinger members. A lot of us would not have seen it if they did not make it available. Must of us do not share your campane in policing YouTube. The final outcome is bad feelings and a blocked member's postings.

 

[eflyguy]

Looking at my post, you have to be disagreeing with my comment or the video content.

I was disagreeing with the content, and posted my explanation of my issue with it immediately, which appears just a couple of posts lower down. For your convenience:

It's all old video. This channel just steals pics and video from other sites then gives it a clickbait title to draw in views.

They even tell you in the video description!

If we had a "dislike" button I would have preferred to use that, but we don't.

Must of us do not share your campane in policing YouTube.

I don't care what happens on YouTube, and I have no personal campaign against anyone, but as a volunteer moderator here on this site, my responsibility is to ensure that this site remains a desirable gathering point for fellow Stinger enthusiasts. I didn't warn you or "police" your post (because YOU didn't do anything against the site rules) or even edit your post to tell other members "please don't click here" - but just by the clicking the link or even just watching the video embedded here benefits that channel financially.

FWIW, you will find many examples of where I have "policed" members posts that violated our rules or guidelines. You won't be able to read their post, however, for that very reason.

Back to the responsibility us volunteers committed to:

Refer to Sal's post in the Community Lounge: My Pledge To You

.. and perhaps consider the definition of vol·un·teer (välənˈtir/)
noun

1. 1.
   a person who freely offers to take part in an enterprise or undertake a task.

The small number of us helping him out are not benefiting in any way. We share that same enthusiasm for this vehicle, and for the community that has sprung up around it. We have significant experience "policing" (as you would put it) web forums, to help maintain that friendly community to encourage new members, ongoing of existing, and sharing of ideas, opinions, information, etc.

FWIW, I have several ongoing personal message conversations with members, not sure why you can't send one.

 

[AV8R]

Do you need to register as "Facebook Police"? Or just Stinger Forum Police? And you can delete me if this offends you. I'll find another Forum or club.

Now guys settle! Unruffle your feathers here. Elfguy does have a point about the repititious youtube stinger vids. I go on youtube every day looking for new ones and always see others knocking off peoples work and using dumb robot voices. If its new to you ok, elfguys point i think was that it fills up the forum with repetitive stuff that we all look at then get miffed when its not new.
Lots of lessons learnt then, lets move on.

 

[Paul32]

Now guys settle! Unruffle your feathers here. Elfguy does have a point about the repititious youtube stinger vids. I go on youtube every day looking for new ones and always see others knocking off peoples work and using dumb robot voices. If its new to you ok, elfguys point i think was that it fills up the forum with repetitive stuff that we all look at then get miffed when its not new.
Lots of lessons learnt then, lets move on.

This is old stuff and your bringing it up again??????

 

[Paul32]

Now guys settle! Unruffle your feathers here. Elfguy does have a point about the repititious youtube stinger vids. I go on youtube every day looking for new ones and always see others knocking off peoples work and using dumb robot voices. If its new to you ok, elfguys point i think was that it fills up the forum with repetitive stuff that we all look at then get miffed when its not new.
Lots of lessons learnt then, lets move on.

How about pointing me to the previous postings on this Forum so I can understand your point. I've been here for over two months and I don't remember seeing it and there are at least 4 others that liked it. Now let's put this to bed unless you can show me the previous videos.

 

[AV8R]

How about pointing me to the previous postings on this Forum so I can understand your point. I've been here for over two months and I don't remember seeing it and there are at least 4 others that liked it. Now let's put this to bed unless you can show me the previous videos.

I’m sorry you feel like we are ganging up on you because that’s not the case. I see both sides of the argument but it has obviously hit a sore point for the two of you. Please don’t get me involved with your banter I was only trying to help resolve the heated discussion that become apparent. I agree move on as I’m certainly not going to put anymore input.

 

[Paul32]

I’m sorry you feel like we are ganging up on you because that’s not the case. I see both sides of the argument but it has obviously hit a sore point for the two of you. Please don’t get me involved with your banter I was only trying to help resolve the heated discussion that become apparent. I agree move on as I’m certainly not going to put anymore input.

Yea, you started it all over again. I did some research and yes we have seen this video before, once in December, 2017 and again in January, 2018. It had a total of 6 responses for both. Don't you think there has been a lot of new members since then that did not see it. Two Moderator's jumped in to teach me something? Are there any more?

 

[AV8R]

Yea, you started it all over again. I did some research and yes we have seen this video before, once in December, 2017 and again in January, 2018. It had a total of 6 responses for both. Don't you think there has been a lot of new members since then that did not see it. Two Moderator's jumped in to teach me something? Are there any more?

May I suggest you contact the administrator about this or ask to become a moderator if you think we have magical powers. Your comment about moderators is not justified.

 

[Kia Stinger]

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