How does the Q60 3.0 TT get 400hp, Stinger 3.3 TT only 365hp?

@ElChanclo that's basically what all the piggyback tunes are doing -increasing boost for increase in HP. Some i've read actually go the next step which is tapping into air/fuel ratios, then the next step which is a full ECU tune. Personally, I'm good with a 2psi increase in boost which could come from a piggyback. not too sure how efficient that would be and if that's enough boost to have to mess with air/fuel ratios.

I think bigger turbos would probably produce much more turbo lag b/c they would take longer to spool???
 
Very interesting. That leads to another question, Can you boost the pressure of the stock turbos much further, or would you have to swap them with larger/better ones first?

People are using JB4s on their Stingers with 93 octane pump gas and producing an extra 6psi of boost over stock.

I've personally been running it at 4 and then 5 psi over stock since March and have had no issues with the car.

And as has been stated for an extra $30 you can add fuel control to it to lean things out in the upper RPMs. That's reportedly good for another 7-10 hp in the 4500-6000 range.
 
@Kamauxx is yours just for the boost, no a/f controls? that would probably put you at about 18-19 psi??
 
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When the time come, (Warrant over) I will probably put in a larger turbo and boost the sh#t out it. Until then I will be just another normal Stinger on the road
 
@Kamauxx is yours just for the boost, no a/f controls? that would probably put you at about 18-19 psi??

I installed the fuel control wires and firmware as well. I figure $30 for 7 hp was a no brainer.
 
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Very interesting. That leads to another question, Can you boost the pressure of the stock turbos much further, or would you have to swap them with larger/better ones first?
Yes you can .. many threads in here regarding tunes ... neeed new plugs first
 
I installed the fuel control wires and firmware as well. I figure $30 for 7 hp was a no brainer.
did you do the whole oil catch cans too?

I'm thinking if I get to that point, i'm going to have to get an aftermarket intercooler too...
 
did you do the whole oil catch cans too?

I'm thinking if I get to that point, i'm going to have to get an aftermarket intercooler too...

Not yet. The only underhood mods I've made are the tune, plugs, and reusable filters.

Intercooler is a good mod too. I look forward to reading some reviews when folks start pulling the trigger on them.
 
I purchased my first Kia in 2012. What about you?
In March. I guess I haven't owned one long enough to call Kia's marketing "garbage" and diss the brand repeatedly. You are a strange sort of cat.
 
Another aspect to this question involves the relationship between horsepower and torque. At the end of the day, how fast a car feels on the street likely has more to do with torque distribution than peak horsepower.

As I understand it, engines actually produce torque, and horsepower is a measure of how torque is sustained across the rev band. In mathematical terms, horsepower = torque x RPM / 5252. This is why when you see a horsepower and torque chart, the horsepower line and the torque line should cross each other at 5252 rpm.

The reason this matters is that peak horsepower--such as the 400 in the Q60 versus the 365 in the Stinger--doesn't necessarily give the full picture, especially for day-to-day driving. A car with a small displacement naturally aspirated engine can produce large horsepower numbers by making peak torque high in the rev range. However, such a car may feel sluggish at slow revs when in the wrong gear. An example of this is the classic Honda VTEC engines in the Integra Type R and S2000. If one was cruising in 5th or 6th gear at 2,000 RPM and needed a quick burst of speed, simply flooring the gas wouldn't do much, because those cars make their peak torque way up high in the rev range--think 6,000 plus RPM.

A turbocharged car with comparable peak horsepower to the Type R is the modern GTI, with the GTI having a slight advantage in peak numbers but the Type R having the advantage in power-to-weight. However, the relatively massive low-end torque in the GTI's 2.0 turbo would make a very different experience when flooring it in top gear at 2,000 RPM.

How does this all relate to the Q60 Red Sport and the Stinger GT? In my opinion, the difference in peak horsepower for both is a non-factor on the street, and both certainly have enough well-distributed torque and proper gearing to make short work of any realistic traffic situation. If I were choosing between the two, it would come down to other factors besides that number.
 
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For me I would say the Stinger is more balance 365HP with 376 torque, Infinity’s engine 400HP and 350 torque. 0-60 on paper is a bit quicker in the Stinger also.
 
With judicious boost and fuel injection, most modern engines can produce more peak horsepower or torque than they're advertised with. Engine producers need to balance the RPM range that power is created over (peak power is only attained at one point of RPM), as well as emissions. An often forgotten point in producing power is how much emissions is created along with it. Emissions is not only dependent on how much fuel you burn, it's affected by fuel-to-air ratio and combustion temperature. Boost affects both of these things. That's why you see that small turbocharged engines in European cars, even if they're not diesel, that need exhaust treatment systems. Europeans tend to go for small turbocharged engines because they can achieve a higher peak fuel economy, which is good for advertising. If you drive these cars in the correct way, you can achieve very high fuel economy, but if you don't drive them in that way, the economy could be worse than a larger naturally aspirated engine. These cars need to exhaust treatment because once you start driving them in a non-optimal way, they can produce more emissions than a larger engine of equivalent power.

Kia is in the business of selling cars to more people than just those who want the maximum power out of their car. The idea with the Stinger is to create enough (and I think the 3.3 already creates more than enough) power, while still being a relatively normal vehicle. By that I mean that the car will have a lifetime, reliability, and emissions similar to a mainstream passenger car.
 
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