Bigger Turbo Options for the Kia Stinger

[Fl stingergt]

This engine is so easy to get big hp and torque gains for around 2 grand. Almost 50 hp 75lb torque extra

 

[Kamauxx]

This engine is so easy to get big hp and torque gains for around 2 grand. Almost 50 hp 75lb torque extra

Cheaper than that. I paid $220 for a tune, $1000 for exhaust, and $100 for drop in filters. $1320 total.

No dyno numbers to confirm but I figure those three have to be good for over 60 hp. My uneducated guess would be >50 for the tune, >10 for the exhaust, and <5 for the drop in filters.

 

[TorkMe]

This engine is so easy to get big hp and torque gains for around 2 grand. Almost 50 hp 75lb torque extra

We are already over 120 WHP gains with our new tune. Posting soon.

 

[TorkMe]

Cheaper than that. I paid $220 for a tune, $1000 for exhaust, and $100 for drop in filters. $1320 total.

No dyno numbers to confirm but I figure those three have to be good for over 60 hp. My uneducated guess would be >50 for the tune, >10 for the exhaust, and <5 for the drop in filters.

I wouldn't call a piggy back a tune... well, maybe a "box tune"

 

[Never thought]

I tried running the numbers on this picture in Honeywell’s website but nothing. Anyone know if this is a T3 turbo or different size? Thinking of buying a couple turbo blankets.

 

[KLR STINGER]

The stock turbo is a Garrett gt17 series with hyundai specific exhaust housing with integrated manifold to the head. You will not find anything that fits this.

 

[Never thought]

The stock turbo is a Garrett gt17 series with hyundai specific exhaust housing with integrated manifold to the head. You will not find anything that fits this.

I have no idea what any of that means but thank you!

That sucks that no turbo blanket will fit it.

 

[DaJackson]

Just out of curiosity why do you think a turbo blanket will help in this application?

 

[Never thought]

Just out of curiosity why do you think a turbo blanket will help in this application?

There is independent research that it keeps other components cooler and reduces turbo lag and increases boost by keeping the warm side of the turbo warm and the cool side cool.

 

[DaJackson]

There is independent research that it keeps other components cooler and reduces turbo lag and increases boost by keeping the warm side of the turbo warm and the cool side cool.

Got a link to this research? I’d be interested to see what kind of data they are seeing on small turbo applications with mainly stock components.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

I'm quite glad KLR Stinger explained what he did in this thread. I've been wondering myself about using that third cylinder per side on a moderately larger turbo, but he is explaining why the logistics of that require major modifications.

I would love to see, however, the bold pathfinders take this step: larger intercooler, moderately larger turbo, fed by all three cylinders per side to minimize turbo lag on said larger turbo (again, moderately, as one that's too big ruins driveability). I would think that's good for 600-650HP. What transmission upgrades are needed (or internal engine components, even) to accommodate this is where my mind is really sitting.

When/if a 600HP Stinger GT is a comfortable daily driver reality is when I'll be all up in my Stinger's nuts swapping this stuff out

 

[Kazz]

I believe that there are products available to custom-wrap turbos, etc. I'm not saying it'd be easy, but it could be done.

 

[Matt77]

I'm quite glad KLR Stinger explained what he did in this thread. I've been wondering myself about using that third cylinder per side on a moderately larger turbo, but he is explaining why the logistics of that require major modifications.

I would love to see, however, the bold pathfinders take this step: larger intercooler, moderately larger turbo, fed by all three cylinders per side to minimize turbo lag on said larger turbo (again, moderately, as one that's too big ruins driveability). I would think that's good for 600-650HP. What transmission upgrades are needed (or internal engine components, even) to accommodate this is where my mind is really sitting.

When/if a 600HP Stinger GT is a comfortable daily driver reality is when I'll be all up in my Stinger's nuts swapping this stuff out

There is no "spare cylinder" to use for another turbo. The engine has an exhaust manifold intergrated into the cylinder head. All three cylinders per side are merged to an exhaust port that feeds the exhaust turbine of the turbo.

 

[KLR STINGER]

There is no "spare cylinder" to use for another turbo. The engine has an exhaust manifold intergrated into the cylinder head. All three cylinders per side are merged to an exhaust port that feeds the exhaust turbine of the turbo.

What he said. I don't think you understand what I posted.

 

[Never thought]

Got a link to this research? I’d be interested to see what kind of data they are seeing on small turbo applications with mainly stock components.

Here you go:

Also, PTP is going to make a turbo blanket for the 2.0 but unlikely for the 3.3T. Theyre not sure there is enough room for the blanket on the 3.3T turbos.

 

[Kazz]

There is no "spare cylinder" to use for another turbo. The engine has an exhaust manifold intergrated into the cylinder head. All three cylinders per side are merged to an exhaust port that feeds the exhaust turbine of the turbo.

Interesting. I had heard that only two cylinders on each side drive the turbos.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Interesting. I had heard that only two cylinders on each side drive the turbos.

Yea, I could have sworn someone mentioned the third cylinder feeds directly into the exhaust and bypasses the turbo.

And yes, I do understand what it means to have manifolds built into the block... Even my Chevy Volt had that My lack of knowledge on the Lambda II engine and the turbo configuration doesn't mean I don't understand concepts, lol

 

[Matt77]

Here's an early render of a 3.3 T-GDi head with the integrated manifold and a picture of the turbocharger assembly which shows what I mean. Yes I know the bolt pattern doesn't match but you get the idea.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Here's an early render of a 3.3 T-GDi head with the integrated manifold and a picture of the turbocharger assembly which shows what I mean. Yes I know the bolt pattern doesn't match but you get the idea.

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That's pretty standard after all. Again, I'm entirely aware of manifolds built into the head as I already had a vehicle with an engine designed that way... It seems everyone was quick to assume *I* was the one who stated it was two cylinders feeding the turbo instead of three...

Whoever discovered only two cylinders feeding the turbo has me scratching my head, though. I highly doubt there's any special butterfly or valve that redirects that third cylinder since the amount of boost can be controlled by less mechanical means. I wonder what that person saw

 

[philsting]

I am still keen to add slightly bigger turbos and in looking at the in built manifold, would likely need to laser cut some steel and machine finish to match then weld a large stub pipe. I know there isn't much room around current turbos, but potentially if fabricating a new bespoke manifold and pipe, could re-route to a different location , and possibly above the motor, but obviously you would then need a boss 429 style bonnet scoop to make room for the turbos and re-route cold air directly to them. Depends on how much money one wants to spend lol.