Stinger weight!

[Bamm1]

Unfortunately Hyundai is still a step behind in many aspects. The styling and quality seem to be there, but when it comes to performance, handling and weight, there's still room for improvement.

Reviews of the G80 sport have been coming out in the last few weeks. That car with the 3.3 TTV6 weighs a hefty 4500 lbs with RWD and 4700 lbs with AWD, and its supposed to be competing with the 5 series. Its almost a second slower to 60 (5.3 sec estimated) and is rated 17/24/20 mpg.

In Motor Trend's review they compare it to the 540xi and mention that the advantage of the G80 is its lower cost for more features.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/genesis/g80/2018/2018-genesis-g80-sport-first-drive-notice/

The almost 5000 lb G90 3.3T HTRAC goes 0-60 in 5.3 second. So the G80, with its couple hundred pound weight savings, might knock a few tenths off that time.

The existence of the G80 and G90 3.3T HTRAC models are what makes me question certain aspects of the Stinger. The Stinger GT AWD will come in at least 600 lbs. under the G80. But it appears it will end up with the same fuel economy numbers. That is hard to wrap my head around. Not even a little better? All these weight savings measures car companies are going through to improve fuel economy/emissions. Kia takes out two NFL offensive linemen worth of weight and sees no improvement?

At least the weight savings appears to have improved performance. We might see 3/4 of a second knocked off the 0-60 time with the lighter weight Stinger.

 

[davebo]

I was also shocked to find the weight out, but considering that the weight of the equivalent sized 2.0T Optima is just shy of 3600 lbs, this isn't too bad seeing as the 2.0T Stinger has a heavier RWD-based drive train.

I'm seeing a weight of 3495lbs for the current 2.0T Optima. My 2012 is only 3385, so it's already gotten a lot fatter in the past 5 years. It's a shame, but like others have said I'm going to have to look at the whole package. It's heavier than I want but if it doesn't sell well and the dealers offer incentives then it may be worth it. It all hinges on whether Kia will be able to steal away price-minded consumers from Audi and BMW, which frankly I don't think is going to happen in America. Looking forward to hunting for deals when the time comes, but at this weight and rumors of poor MPG this is no longer a day-one MSRP purchase for me.

 

[Nujee]

Hey guys,

Thought this quote from an Australian site might interest you all re the weight:

"We expected a warm-up of some kind, or some general introduction to the driving dynamics of the 'Ring. Instead, we found ourselves going flat-out from the get-go, following our lead car. Here’s the thing: The rear-wheel-drive V6 Kia Stinger has a kerb weight of around 1750kg (official numbers yet to come), yet they simply don’t feel that heavy. The front-end grips really well (Michelin Pilot Super Sports on 225/40/19 front, 255/35/19 rear - Australian cars set to wear Continentals) and the inherent balance of the car is very much like a new BMW 5 Series than anything Kia has ever made before."

http://www.caradvice.com.au/559261/2018-kia-stinger-review/?

 

[Armen212]

my g80 sport seems to get low 5s to 5 flat from 60(rwd) so considering the 600 pound difference the gt should be an absolute beast.should be 4.5 0-60 for the gt according to the numbers im getting

 

[STINGER]

Just randomly searching and I was shocked to find out that my 2014 Sorento SX that is a V6, AWD and a 7 Seater is lighter than the 2WD Stinger!!

Sorento 3894lbs

 

[admonite]

Those weights are in line with what I was expecting. I read in an article somewhere that Kia's parent company owns a Steel Company....so aluminum (and other lightweight materials) were not likely. They use a great deal of High-Strength steel though. It's definitely much lighter than a Dodge Charger.

 

[STINGER]

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2017/10/12/2018-kia-stinger/756690001/

This article says 3,829lbs for the fully loaded RWD.

 

[Bamm1]

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/mark-phelan/2017/10/12/2018-kia-stinger/756690001/

This article says 3,829lbs for the fully loaded RWD.

I believe Motortrend weighs the cars they test themselves. They got 4005 lbs.

www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/stinger/2018/2018-kia-stinger-gt-first-test-review/amp/

 

[BahamaTodd]

The US owners manual is now available:
https://stingerforum.org/threads/usa-2018-kia-stinger-owners-manual.783/

If those are the correct gross weight (pg 8-6) and payload (pg 5-145) capacities, then the curb weights would be:

2.0 RWD: 3896 lbs
2.0 AWD: 4023 lbs
3.3 RWD: 4100 lbs
3.3 AWD: 4244 lbs

 

[Bamm1]

The US owners manual is now available:
https://stingerforum.org/threads/usa-2018-kia-stinger-owners-manual.783/

If those are the correct gross weight (pg 8-6) and payload (pg 5-145) capacities, then the curb weights would be:

2.0 RWD: 3896 lbs
2.0 AWD: 4023 lbs
3.3 RWD: 4100 lbs
3.3 AWD: 4244 lbs

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Now I see where the article STINGER posted got its numbers from:

http://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/download/12153/file/xlsx

2.0 RWD: 3611 lbs
2.0 AWD: 3792 lbs
3.3 RWD: 3829 lbs
3.3 AWD: 4023 lbs

At this point the "owner's manual" seems to be the most "current" document so I am going to go with that.

 

[Thirteen]

I don't think anyone knows what this car weighs, for the RWD GT I've seen this I've seen 3829 I've seen like 4004 or something. I wish i had some scales.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Perhaps i need to take a quick bag of trash to my local transfer station...they have car scales there to weight how much stuff you are dumping. I get free trips as its included in my monthly trash service and would be easy to ask the guy the number on the scale with me standing to the side. Will see if i can make a trip over there in the near future.

 

[Bamm1]

I don't think anyone knows what this car weighs, for the RWD GT I've seen this I've seen 3829 I've seen like 4004 or something. I wish i had some scales.

Both C&D and MT weigh the cars they test on a scale that measures weight distribution as well.

If you average the weights they got it puts the GT2 RWD at 4004.5lbs. AWD adds ~181lbs. to that figure.

The RWD 2.0T came in at 3650lbs. And again, another ~181lbs on top of that if you add AWD.

 

[Thirteen]

Well heavy as it is on paper I still have a blast driving it

 

[Bamm1]

Well heavy as it is on paper I still have a blast driving it

This thread was all speculation before the official release. Everyone wants a car with performance chops to weigh as little as is feasible. But coming in heavier than people wanted doesn't mean it sucks.

 

[CaliSting]

Thing that sad is that Kia could have made it about 200 lbs lighter without adding much cost. Using aluminum isn’t expensive. Could have made hood and hatch from aluminum. Maybe even doors. Sub frames too.

Heck many cheap uS cars and trucks use aluminum now.

But one thing I can say the steel panels on this car and nice and thick compared to some other cars.

 

[davebo]

Thing that sad is that Kia could have made it about 200 lbs lighter without adding much cost. Using aluminum isn’t expensive. Could have made hood and hatch from aluminum. Maybe even doors. Sub frames too.

Yeah I imagine that would have been the case had Hyundai not owned six steel factories. Too great an incentive to use what you've already got.

 

[Fred Pahlke]

Relatively small weight issue, but--I've heard more than once that the U.S. Stinger will include a compact spare and a jack, so another 30 lbs? How many of the competitors include a spare? Aren't run-flats standard on some of them? I may be wrong, but I think I'd rather have a spare than run-flats.

The run flat tires I had to buy with my Q50 suck and a reason I purchased the Stinger was for a in trunk spare tire and jack....that weight is ok in my book as my Stinger can outrun my lighter 3.7 315hp Q50 all day long.

 

[Fred Pahlke]

Thing that sad is that Kia could have made it about 200 lbs lighter without adding much cost. Using aluminum isn’t expensive. Could have made hood and hatch from aluminum. Maybe even doors. Sub frames too.

Heck many cheap uS cars and trucks use aluminum now.

But one thing I can say the steel panels on this car and nice and thick compared to some other cars.

My G35 has an all aluminum front hood and I can assure it is not a cheap one. It buckles like an accordion in a front end head on enough to save your life and give the car a Five Star rating for safety.