Awd To Rwd By Pulling The Fuse

[Ziyad.faik]

Hi, Guys Can Any one tells is there problem if i keep the fuse disconncted
there no damage for gear ?
And it's safe if i pull the fuse while driving?

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

cant 100% guarantee No damage will occur for legal reasons, however I personally have not have anything happen when pulling the fuse, no lights or anything on the dash, and no drivetrain damage here. the Front differential seems to be fairly simple. Closed (AWD) when it has an electric current going to it, open (RWD) when it doesn't have current going to it.

Multiple other people can report the same on here.

The only thing that I DONT recommend doing is pulling the fuse when the car is on. Fully turn the car off before you pull the fuse.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Why??

 

[Ziyad.faik]

Why??

to have some fun driffting & Wheel Spin

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Why??

Some people want to have that RWD feel. its also pretty common in cars that are designed for performance, another car that can do it for example is the WRX STI. (The newer ones at least) its also an easy way to get dynoed as 90% of dynos are RWD.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Some people want to have that RWD feel. its also pretty common in cars that are designed for performance, another car that can do it for example is the WRX STI. (The newer ones at least) its also an easy way to get dynoed as 90% of dynos are RWD.

I might be wrong, but i would expect all kind of errors in car's electronics. Like abs or traction control. Will it really be rwd car?

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I might be wrong, but i would expect all kind of errors in car's electronics. Like abs or traction control. Will it really be rwd car?

100%
I was just as skeptical till I tried it. The car becomes 100% RWD with 0 error codes, as long as you remove the fuse while the car is off. its pretty clear that the system was purposefully designed to do that. after you do that, the only difference between the AWD and RWD models is the weight of the AWD system is still there, and some models don't have an limited slip Differential.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I might be wrong, but i would expect all kind of errors in car's electronics. Like abs or traction control. Will it really be rwd car?

No one has ever reported error codes or any issues doing this (I read a lot). Furthermore, the GTS versions of the Stinger with D-AWD do this exact thing, without having to physically remove the fuse. When in Sport mode, if you kick the rear end out under heavy power 100% of the power goes to the rear wheels. The original meaning of D-AWD was "Drift AWD", not dynamic AWD.

 

[MerlintheMad]

OP, welcome by the way.

 

[Ziyad.faik]

No one has ever reported error codes or any issues doing this (I read a lot). Furthermore, the GTS versions of the Stinger with D-AWD do this exact thing, without having to physically remove the fuse. When in Sport mode, if you kick the rear end out under heavy power 100% of the power goes to the rear wheels. The original meaning of D-AWD was "Drift AWD", not dynamic AWD.

So When Remove the fuse while driving (By Switch ) Nothing happens

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

So When Remove the fuse while driving (By Switch ) Nothing happens

Depends on the model you have, the GTS will do it with a switch, Most other versions, you have to remove the fuse when the car is OFF

 

[JSolo]

Probably not recommended if you have an open rear end (vs LSD)?

 

[MerlintheMad]

So When Remove the fuse while driving (By Switch ) Nothing happens

I don't know about that. If you have normal AWD and you cut out the fuse, even with a switch, while driving, well you try it and get back to us. Hah.

The D-AWD in the GTS is a factory mod and as far as I can tell is not anything to do with the fuse: it is an ECU mod that changes how much power is sent to the rear wheels, which is 100% IF you are driving "spiritedly" enough to warrant the power cut to the front wheels.

 

[klank23]

Ive been wondering this for a while myself.

My 19 Stinger didn't put up a warning light when I pulled the fuse. My 22 does, has a yellow light come on and stays on as long as the fuse is out.

Since this is the Actimax system by Magna, I wonder if there are any technical docs the smart people can look at, that will tell us if leaving the fuse out will hurt anything. I'm hoping it merely leaves the coupler 'unlocked'.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Ive been wondering this for a while myself.

My 19 Stinger didn't put up a warning light when I pulled the fuse. My 22 does, has a yellow light come on and stays on as long as the fuse is out.

Since this is the Actimax system by Magna, I wonder if there are any technical docs the smart people can look at, that will tell us if leaving the fuse out will hurt anything. I'm hoping it merely leaves the coupler 'unlocked'.

So, with your 22, did you pull the fuse out while the car was running? because That has been known to set the light off. as for the way The system is designed, from what I am aware of, based off of being told this from a very trusted Kia tech (one of the few good ones out there) the drivetrain doesn't seem to care if the front differential is engaged or not. if the fuse is pulled, the clutches in the front differential that would normally engage with the drivetrain just don't activate, meaning the car is just sending power to the rear wheels. The logic in the TCU also seems to not care at all either, which is why you can find examples of AWD cars (A perfect example would be @AWDGT2 ) being able to do burnouts at drag strips without destroying their drivetrain.

Personally, I have pulled the fuse out of my 18 many times to put it in RWD and have yet to have any issues.

 

[oddball]

Per the teardown pictures in the other thread, the internals of the transfer case require the pump to run in order to lubricate needle bearings and the clutch plates. I'm not certain splash lubrication will be enough. The fuse provides main power to the pump, the computer controls the ground side to regulate the speed of the pump - slow=lubricate only, fast=lubricate+engage front wheels.
So for short bursts, sure. But extended driving or a full track day? Probably not a good idea.

 

[klank23]

So, with your 22, did you pull the fuse out while the car was running? because That has been known to set the light off. as for the way The system is designed, from what I am aware of, based off of being told this from a very trusted Kia tech (one of the few good ones out there) the drivetrain doesn't seem to care if the front differential is engaged or not. if the fuse is pulled, the clutches in the front differential that would normally engage with the drivetrain just don't activate, meaning the car is just sending power to the rear wheels. The logic in the TCU also seems to not care at all either, which is why you can find examples of AWD cars (A perfect example would be @AWDGT2 ) being able to do burnouts at drag strips without destroying their drivetrain.

Personally, I have pulled the fuse out of my 18 many times to put it in RWD and have yet to have any issues.

No, engine is always off when I pulled the fuse.

Now I'm scared to do it this summer with the knowledge that the pump needs this fuse to run and lubricate parts.

 

[billy_vk]

I switch between AWD and RWD by a simple push button. Does not matter if the car is on or off. It doesn't care. No dummy lights. I could be wrong. I'll let you know if it leaves me stranded somewhere with the front end smoking.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I switch between AWD and RWD by a simple push button. Does not matter if the car is on or off. It doesn't care. No dummy lights. I could be wrong. I'll let you know if it leaves me stranded somewhere with the front end smoking.

whats your setup? ive been toying with the idea for a little while now

 

[billy_vk]

Not sure why it flipped the first pic upside down... latched push button to engage or disengage fwd. Run wires to the fuse box. Take the fuse out and insert connectors where the fuse was. Move the fuse 12" up the line on the hot side wire. Done