EV Stinger would you Buy or Not?

[NIU_Huskies]

If it retained the style of the current Stinger, I would be tempted.

Agreed, too many of these EVs look ugly and futuristic. Make an EV that retains the Stinger's current look and I'd buy one.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Agreed, too many of these EVs look ugly and futuristic. Make an EV that retains the Stinger's current look and I'd buy one.

How is that possible, without a bunch of fake grilles? And we've been mocking the faux hood "vents". Heh.

 

[Simba_Akbar]

I wish they made a stinger with a v8

 

[Waynerm002]

From a somewhat older guy’s perspective, after 2 hours of driving, I appreciate the break to get myself and the car charged up. Tesla and EA has chargers spaced around 70 120 miles (if I remember correctly) apart, along highways. Tesla has more that are in cities and not just on highways. When I was younger, I wanted to make the DC to NY trip in 1 shot, no stops. It was fine by myself but with others, I had to add stops. I got used to the 2 hour drive then stop routine.

The etron has a 222 mile range, I can easily beat that on my commute, on local streets. It adds 10 more minutes to the drive, not a big deal. On the highway for long trips, at about 184 (you will have a few miles left but at 25 mph, no longer good to be on the highway) it’s about done. If you have a place at home you can charge and don’t have a long commute, I say go for it. It’s a proven fact that for most people an EV would work as they don’t exceed 30 miles on their daily commute nor travel long distances often. I was one of the folks that wanted at least 500 miles range before I got one. It took me a couple of months of really paying attention to my driving and fueling habits to make the move. The initial plan was not to trade the Stinger but the increase in value at the time made it the better choice.

Audi made the etron GT, a car of similar size and layout to the Stinger. KIA could make an updated Stinger GT EV but that would be down the road based on the current sales of the Stinger and their need to sell more of their bread and butter vehicles in higher numbers. A lot of us complained about the “300” mile expected highway range of the Stinger, which few could achieve but we bought it nonetheless. If they came out with an EV Stinger now, with improved performance and handling, with an updated interior, I think a lot of people would buy it at @ $70k, before incentives.

 

[RIck-F]

ICE or bust!

When they get the charging down to < 10 minutes anywhere then we can talk.

How about 15 minutes . . . ? If I could get 300 miles on a 15 minute charge AND IF charging stations were readily available-- I'd go for an EV.

https://new.abb.com/news/lv/detail/83310/abb-launches-terra-360-the-worlds-fastest-electric-vehicle-charger

 

[JSolo]

^^Eh... Consider how much time you typically spend at the pump. I suppose 15 min is acceptable, but still on the lengthy.

There's a safety component too. That's a lot of juice flowing into the batteries. Wouldn't surprise me if there may be fireworks involved.

 

[Kamauxx]

How about 15 minutes . . . ? If I could get 300 miles on a 15 minute charge AND IF charging stations were readily available-- I'd go for an EV.

https://new.abb.com/news/lv/detail/83310/abb-launches-terra-360-the-worlds-fastest-electric-vehicle-charger

I bet there's more charging stations than people realize. I ordered a Model 3 Performance yesterday, which obviously led to me doing a bunch of homework. I just learned that there's a Tesla Supercharger thing less than a quarter of a mile from my house. It's located behind a bar-b-cue restaurant so it's not too obvious from the road. I was shocked (get it ) to learn that place was so close and I'd never known about it. I bet there's many others out there that folks aren't even aware of.

 

[RIck-F]

Will the Tesla Supercharger get you 300 miles in 15 minutes?

 

[Kamauxx]

Will the Tesla Supercharger get you 300 miles in 15 minutes?

Nope. 200 miles in 15 minutes. From 5-90% in 35 minutes. 90% is roughly 290 miles. Or if you don't wait until you're "on E" and charge from 20-90% you'd get 290 miles in 20 minutes.

Not 15/300 but not terrible. I'll most likely just charge at home.

*Edit: something else I just learned is that by default they only charge to 90% (it can be changed in the settings). Elon Musk says the car is less efficient at 100% because regenerative braking doesn't work if the batteries are already full. So most folks only charge to 90 or 95% anyway.

 

[Chark]

Would not buy because the technology and infrastructure to build and support 100% EVs isn't close to being ready. Battery power density needs to improve exponentially for fast charging and long life, and battery composition needs to rely on less rare earth minerals dominated by China. There aren't nearly enough charging stations already and the power grid is becoming more reliant on unreliable wind and solar because gas and coal plants keep shutting down. Power companies are already warning of rolling brownouts and blackouts due to demand. Let's keep piling on! And it's really shortsighted for car manufacturers to abandon ICE platforms just yet. It will be many years before manufacturing capacity can catch up.

Seriously, hybrids achieve the best of both worlds, but they're not being pushed. How are electric car owners supposed to flee wildfires, hurricanes and earthquakes if they can't charge their vehicles? Remember when Texas lost power for weeks because they chose not to ice-proof their windmills?

The pain everyone is feeling at the pump is 100% self-inflicted by the current administration.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

The pain everyone is feeling at the pump is 100% self-inflicted by the current administration.

The only thing i disagree with. The inflation is the result of decades of socialist monetary system we have. And looks like we came to the end of that road. No more can kicking. Too bad they will blame capitalism for that, and majority will eat that sh...t

 

[ChaneRZ]

I would never buy an EV car.

 

[Kamauxx]

Seriously, hybrids achieve the best of both worlds, but they're not being pushed. How are electric car owners supposed to flee wildfires, hurricanes and earthquakes if they can't charge their vehicles? Remember when Texas lost power for weeks because they chose not to ice-proof their windmills?

Tell me you're from southwest without telling me you're from the southwest.

Quick questions: How do ICE owners flee wildfires? And how would that differ for an EV owner? Are we just assuming every EV is sitting in a garage with a completely drained battery so they can't drive 20 miles to get out of the way of a relatively slow moving fire? Hurricanes are predictable, they don't just pop up wherever someone puts a sharpie to a map. Why wouldn't someone be able to evacuate in an EV? Before hurricanes touchdown it's gas stations that are overwhelmed not EV owner's garages or charging stations. And most comically, how the hell do you flee from an earthquake in an ICE vehicle?!

 

[Waynerm002]

Nope. 200 miles in 15 minutes. From 5-90% in 35 minutes. 90% is roughly 290 miles. Or if you don't wait until you're "on E" and charge from 20-90% you'd get 290 miles in 20 minutes.

Not 15/300 but not terrible. I'll most likely just charge at home.

*Edit: something else I just learned is that by default they only charge to 90% (it can be changed in the settings). Elon Musk says the car is less efficient at 100% because regenerative braking doesn't work if the batteries are already full. So most folks only charge to 90 or 95% anyway.

After the first few trip on the etron, I don’t do 100% charge unless I have a long trip with the car carrying extra weight ( I still go with the highway flow), to make sure I got some extra juice if I “feel the need for speed.” Around town, daily commute, 80% is recommended and charge around 30%. People that aren’t interested in EVs aren’t taking the time to understand that the infrastructure exists to handle the vehicles in the road already, and will support new ones. People could go solar to aid the energy situation a bit but power companies want to add extra fees because they are using a ton of energy from the grid. This is slowing the roll out of solar. One would think they would want people to have solar to lessen the impact of high usage times but they just want to keep control of the energy and gouge us on prices. Capitalism at its finest.

Gas is cheap in the US compared to the rest of the world (with the exception of those places that have plenty), we don’t have line for fuel. There isn’t a lack of fuel, it’s people raising prices to offset their losses. When the price per barrel goes down, why doesn’t gas price move in a similar way? Greed. I think folks should be happy that we aren’t like Sri Lanka that is practically out of petroleum products (and money) due their government’s screw ups.

EVs are here and will only improve as time goes on. Imagine the discussions when steam and gas powered vehicles came out, what were the guys selling horses and carriages saying about the then, future of transportation.

 

[Devin]

I bet there's more charging stations than people realize. I ordered a Model 3 Performance yesterday, which obviously led to me doing a bunch of homework. I just learned that there's a Tesla Supercharger thing less than a quarter of a mile from my house. It's located behind a bar-b-cue restaurant so it's not too obvious from the road. I was shocked (get it ) to learn that place was so close and I'd never known about it. I bet there's many others out there that folks aren't even aware of.

Didn't you just get an Audi?

 

[Kamauxx]

Didn't you just get an Audi?

No, I got it towards the end of 2020. I'm due for a change.

 

[Kamauxx]

After the first few trip on the etron, I don’t do 100% charge unless I have a long trip with the car carrying extra weight ( I still go with the highway flow), to make sure I got some extra juice if I “feel the need for speed.” Around town, daily commute, 80% is recommended and charge around 30%. People that aren’t interested in EVs aren’t taking the time to understand that the infrastructure exists to handle the vehicles in the road already, and will support new ones. People could go solar to aid the energy situation a bit but power companies want to add extra fees because they are using a ton of energy from the grid. This is slowing the roll out of solar. One would think they would want people to have solar to lessen the impact of high usage times but they just want to keep control of the energy and gouge us on prices. Capitalism at its finest.

Gas is cheap in the US compared to the rest of the world (with the exception of those places that have plenty), we don’t have line for fuel. There isn’t a lack of fuel, it’s people raising prices to offset their losses. When the price per barrel goes down, why doesn’t gas price move in a similar way? Greed. I think folks should be happy that we aren’t like Sri Lanka that is practically out of petroleum products (and money) due their government’s screw ups.

EVs are here and will only improve as time goes on. Imagine the discussions when steam and gas powered vehicles came out, what were the guys selling horses and carriages saying about the then, future of transportation.

Definitely seems to be the future of cars, whether staunch ICE buyers want to acknowledge it or not. I just want to go fast for cheap. $8.50 to "fill up" a car with 315 miles of range and a 0-60 time of 3.1 seconds is just about as good as it gets for me.

On the flip side I just spent $78 to fill my current car up and I still have the same 315 miles of range.

If I top off once a week I'll save $300 a month in fuel costs alone.

 

[Waynerm002]

The math added up for me, which is why I made the switch. I charged mainly at home and used the app to pay for charging a couple of times outside. I saved the free EA charging for long trips, there were a few times I use other brands in Cali, they seemed to mostly for folks driving around town than need a boost before heading home. They were around 50KW at max and would take too long if I was using for a long distance trip. With Tesla, you are going to have a lot more options, jus the wait to get one sucks.

 

[Kamauxx]

The math added up for me, which is why I made the switch. I charged mainly at home and used the app to pay for charging a couple of times outside. I saved the free EA charging for long trips, there were a few times I use other brands in Cali, they seemed to mostly for folks driving around town than need a boost before heading home. They were around 50KW at max and would take too long if I was using for a long distance trip. With Tesla, you are going to have a lot more options, jus the wait to get one sucks.

A lot of ppl on the Tesla forum are frustrated with me. I ordered 9 days ago. The car was built on June 6th. I got my VIN on June 7th. It left the factory June 8th. My estimated date of delivery is June 21-27, which is about 2 months early.

There are people on the west coast who ordered the same trims in March and are still waiting. Rumor is that Tesla is shipping east to west to try to deliver as many vehicles as possible before the quarter ends. The thought is that they'll wait until the last week of the month to focus on closer deliveries.

I got lucky.

 

[Fredman]

From an electricians point of view (mine) EV’s are akin to an elevator on its side with wheels. Of course an electric motor is going to have tons of torque. Hit the potentiometer on the floor and ZING! That’s is the basic nature of an electric motor. It’s what they do. It’s just an incredibly sterilized version of traveling in a car to me. For some reason - me not so impressed.

Having said that, once they are refined and at a much better price point, I could see having one to supplement my internal combustion beast. (Just for the mundane trips). I think there’s good reason why many Tesla owners are busted flying down the highway while asleep. Lol