Kia! Why not manual on stinger?!!!

[Yong]

2019 Genesis G70 will be sold with a six-speed manual transmission

 

[AV8R]

Because it’s a Stinger. You have to understand that if you had everything you want then the car would cost $100000 to buy. Kia made the decision to not have a manual transmission for a reason, I’m fine with it and there are some things that I don’t get like the ambient lighting in the dash and I’m ok with that too. It’s the car I’m in love with and how it drives and how it makes me feel. If you want a manual buy the G70.

 

[xot1]

Only for 2.0 version.

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Not too many car manufacturers worldwide are offering manuals anymore....reasons:
1. Most people don’t want them PIA in most cities traffic congestion.
2. Autos now give good fuel efficiency & assists with meeting a lot of countries strict fuel emission regulations.
3. Reliability has vastly improved with little or no maintenance required.
4. Autos trade better these days.

 

[xot1]

Not too many car manufacturers worldwide are offering manuals anymore....reasons:
1. Most people don’t want them PIA in most cities traffic congestion.
2. Autos now give good fuel efficiency & assists with meeting a lot of countries strict fuel emission regulations.
3. Reliability has vastly improved with little or no maintenance required.
4. Autos trade better these days.

And now with EVs manual will be completely dead. Nobody will know how to drive stick anymore. Later on, manual will be forbidden by the law.

 

[BIGRED]

Stick shifts are an endangered species. Soon they’ll become extinct

 

[mldavis2]

Almost all manual transmission today are on 4 cylinder cars -- presumably for economy, not performance.

Which is exactly why I'm keeping my '05 Pontiac GTO LS2 6-speed in the garage to keep my GT2 company. The trouble with manual gearboxes is that every once in a while you get caught in the wrong gear, like on the highway when some idiot in a big UV tries to blast around into a traffic gap that doesn't belong to him. Takes a second to double-clutch into 4th and close the gap and sometimes you forget and lean on the throttle in 6th and he wins 'cuz I was sleeping.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

2019 Genesis G70 will be sold with a six-speed manual transmission

Don’t get me wrong I love the engagement you feel driving stick and there really is nothing like have that full control.

However, new generation Autos just have many more advantages, so manuals are simply outdated technology. Autos are much quicker, smoother, and safer than any manual available. They also provide multiple different shift modes/maps depending on driving style. Sport mode for fast, aggressive, and throttle matched shifts. Eco for smooth, seemless, fuel efficient shifts, or even safer driving!(Perfect for people not ready for all its power!)

Not to mention leg fatigue in stop and go traffic is no fun at all.My Trans-Am’s Muncie 4speed clutch had soo much pressure none of my friends could drive it more than a few blocks.

Simple put Kia didn’t put in a manual in the Stinger because they are embracing future technology like Porsche, not really going back in time like their Aerosmith commercial implies!

 

[mldavis2]

Ain't no stick shifts in race cars today. I love driving them because of the concentration and involvement with the car required, but automatics are more efficient if less fun. Thank goodness for paddle shifters.

 

[davebo]

And now with EVs manual will be completely dead. Nobody will know how to drive stick anymore. Later on, manual will be forbidden by the law.

Yeah but if no one makes manuals that won't make much difference eventually. Just like no one knows how to churn their own butter anymore, with the only difference being that churning butter isn't actually fun on a twisty canyon road.

 

[STNGRNV]

the only difference being that churning butter isn't actually fun on a twisty canyon road.

In YOUR opinion

 

[weew]

1. This is a GT car. A GT car is supposed to be all about luxurious highway cruising. Manuals, unfortunately, don't help with that.

2. Fewer options lowers the price by streamlining the manufacturing process.

3. Not enough people want a manual anyway.

4. No launch control with a manual.

 

[weew]

And now with EVs manual will be completely dead. Nobody will know how to drive stick anymore. Later on, manual will be forbidden by the law.

lol. I doubt they will ever be forbidden by law. Just a separate licensing cost, and higher insurance prices. And higher car prices, because they will only come in "special edition" limited-run vehicles. And higher maintenance costs, because fewer mechanics will be around to service them, and fewer parts available. They'll die off from popularity alone. Nobody had to outlaw the horse and buggy.

Hell, you could apply this to gasoline cars in general. Gas isn't going to last forever, and price will kill it faster than laws will...

 

[Stinger73]

1. This is a GT car. A GT car is supposed to be all about luxurious highway cruising. Manuals, unfortunately, don't help with that.

2. Fewer options lowers the price by streamlining the manufacturing process.

3. Not enough people want a manual anyway.

4. No launch control with a manual.

Agree 100%! The Stinger is a GT, proof by longer wheel base and more comfortable suspension (even in sport mode) as the G70 is more of a performance car as it has a stiffer suspension.

 

[voon]

Why would they offer that? A very small percentage of customers these days want manual ... it doesn't make sense for a price otimized company like Kia to offer an expensive option nearly nobody orders.

 

[xot1]

Why would they offer that? A very small percentage of customers these days want manual ... it doesn't make sense for a price otimized company like Kia to offer an expensive option nearly nobody orders.

Wouldn't a manual be cheaper than an auto gear box?

 

[voon]

Sure, the option for a customer would be cheaper. But not for Kia to offer the option. They need to produce another gearbox, get the cars tested with it etc.

 

[mldavis2]

My guess is that, at least in the U.S., the demand for a manual gearbox will be very small, even among those of us who still remember how to drive one. I think the G70 manual may do better in European markets, but they still have to sell enough of them to justify the expense of building one, and the slushboxes of today outperform the manual which further compromises its attractiveness. I know the 6-speed automatic version of my 6-speed manual GTO is 0.1 sec. faster 0-60 mph, but it's not nearly as much fun, which is why I'm keeping the Goat.

 

[xot1]

Sure, the option for a customer would be cheaper. But not for Kia to offer the option. They need to produce another gearbox, get the cars tested with it etc.

Ok I understand what you meant.

 

[xot1]

My guess is that, at least in the U.S., the demand for a manual gearbox will be very small, even among those of us who still remember how to drive one. I think the G70 manual may do better in European markets, but they still have to sell enough of them to justify the expense of building one, and the slushboxes of today outperform the manual which further compromises its attractiveness. I know the 6-speed automatic version of my 6-speed manual GTO is 0.1 sec. faster 0-60 mph, but it's not nearly as much fun, which is why I'm keeping the Goat.

Sedans don't sell so well in Europe.
I see the G70 having more success in the US.