Custom Drive mode ... AWD settings???

[nhcowboy28]

I use Smart mode, but mine is named different, it's called "Sport" and it always knows how I'm driving!

That has nothing to do with this discussion. No one (except Merlin) is talking about the drive modes other than custom. We were trying to discuss the lack of info for the custom -> AWD settings (which you can select three options... sport/conform/eco)... and the response that 2 of those 3 are exactly the same which is stupid). All within custom.

thanks for playing.

 

[YOWStinger]

That has nothing to do with this discussion. No one (except Merlin) is talking about the drive modes other than custom. We were trying to discuss the lack of info for the custom -> AWD settings (which you can select three options... sport/conform/eco)... and the response that 2 of those 3 are exactly the same which is stupid). All within custom.

thanks for playing.

rough day?

docs don’t say anything about it but you might assume an 80/20, 50/50 and 20/80 split. Either way, it’s some range of power distribution between more fore and more aft. I’m sure I’ve seen an official statement of 20/80, but don’t recall specifics on the other end. Not much to say about it.

 

[nhcowboy28]

rough day?

docs don’t say anything about it but you might assume an 80/20, 50/50 and 20/80 split. Either way, it’s some range of power distribution between more fore and more aft. I’m sure I’ve seen an official statement of 20/80, but don’t recall specifics on the other end. Not much to say about it.

Jfc. I got the answer from Kia. And posted it. Ffs

 

[YOWStinger]

Jfc. I got the exact answe from Kia. And listed it. Ffs

guess we’re done here then and can go back to jokes?

 

[nhcowboy28]

This thread is driving me to alcoholism.

last time I try to get info to help the community.

 

[YOWStinger]

This thread is driving me to alcoholism.

last time I try to get info to help the community.

I made one joke, you didn’t even have to respond to it. Pretty rough environment for everyone right now so I appreciate that stress levels are high and hope you and your friends and family are safe and healthy. Happy Friday and have a good weekend

 

[Guzman]

This thread is driving me to alcoholism.

last time I try to get info to help the community.

Thanks for the info from Kia. I appreciate it. I have been wondering this exact same thing since I got my 2018 Stinger GT. It might be very well that two of the settings are the same for some strange reason. It makes no sense that "Eco" is 40/60 (f/r) split since you would think that would use more fuel than the sport setting of 20/80. And YES I know that sport would use more fuel since it has different throttle and transmission setting....this thread is about the AWD settings in Custom...not any of the other drive modes.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Thanks for the info from Kia. I appreciate it. I have been wondering this exact same thing since I got my 2018 Stinger GT. It might be very well that two of the settings are the same for some strange reason. It makes no sense that "Eco" is 40/60 (f/r) split since you would think that would use more fuel than the sport setting of 20/80. And YES I know that sport would use more fuel since it has different throttle and transmission setting....this thread is about the AWD settings in Custom...not any of the other drive modes.

I appreciate the annoyance at having no difference in the AWD settings in Custom between Eco and Comfort. But out of Custom there are other differences besides the power split. If they left one or the other off the Custom settings screen, thereby insinuating that to include both would be redundant, don't you think that having one or the other missing would cause more questions than a redundancy?

A lot about these fangled cars with doodads for this, that, and the other thing, are not really affecting noticeable changes anyway; and, in my opinion, they are more for creating a list of "features" that Kia can charge more for having them included, rather than real stuff that changes the way the car feels. A lot of comments on the forum talk about this, mainly that Sport isn't that much different from the other drive modes. But others too: like Eco not producing the expected fuel savings; or what is the use of Smart? And then we get into the different sound system settings; too many options that don't produce any noticeable change in the resulting sound distribution. Etc.

If Kia had left out either Eco or Comfort from the AWD Custom setting it would only produce more questions that are not going to have a satisfying answer. Anyway, that's my latest "editorial".

 

[Guzman]

I think it is more odd that a car company would include two settings that are identical than if they had omitted some other feature or setting. I guess it seems likely that is the case....comfort and eco setting in CUSTOM AWD are the same.....40 front, 60 rear.

 

[YOWStinger]

I think it is more odd that a car company would include two settings that are identical than if they had omitted some other feature or setting. I guess it seems likely that is the case....comfort and eco setting in CUSTOM AWD are the same.....40 front, 60 rear.

As far as I'm concerned, even the comfort/sport suspension settings were too similar. And they didn't exactly knock the OEM suspension tune out of the park either. I think they were just checking boxes, not really trying very hard to get it right.

 

[Marc Collins]

Thanks for the info from Kia. I appreciate it. I have been wondering this exact same thing since I got my 2018 Stinger GT. It might be very well that two of the settings are the same for some strange reason. It makes no sense that "Eco" is 40/60 (f/r) split since you would think that would use more fuel than the sport setting of 20/80. And YES I know that sport would use more fuel since it has different throttle and transmission setting....this thread is about the AWD settings in Custom...not any of the other drive modes.

There is no fuel economy difference among the settings. Only a complete disengagement of AWD might improve fuel economy very slightly, but unfortunately you are still carrying the weight of the entire AWD system whether you use it or not. Shifting drive forward or rear has no effect on the overall amount of torque required to move the weight of the vehicle at speed x since all else (including gearing) is the same.

 

[Guzman]

You are probably right. Unless it was 0/100 F/R, there would be no savings. Sort of like the “slip and grip” FWD based systems that are FWD only until slip.

 

[YOWStinger]

I hear you can pull the AWD fuse and only the rear wheels are driven. I haven't heard more about that, but would be interested if that's a fact, opens up what Dyno's I can run at

 

[Gtecko]

I hear you can pull the AWD fuse and only the rear wheels are driven. I haven't heard more about that, but would be interested if that's a fact, opens up what Dyno's I can run at

pretty much the same thing as the burger break snip method... allows you to do burnouts

 

[RIck-F]

[QUOTE="... why have THREE custom AWD settings (specific to the custom f/r bias) where two are E X A C T L Y the same.[/QUOTE]

I have assumed that the "ECO" is there only so those clueless "Greenies" can feel like they're doing something a wee bit eco-friendly.

 

[eflyguy]

The modes are documented in the owners manual (how clever!)

There are significant differences between ECO and other modes, but it affects shift points and throttle response, not f/r bias.

 

[Guzman]

The discussion is not about the drive modes, it is about the AWD setting in the CUSTOM mode.

 

[eflyguy]

The discussion is not about the drive modes, it is about the AWD setting in the CUSTOM mode.

Ah, yes. Sorry. So hard to figure out the topic here.

Those settings mimic the Comfort, Eco and Sport torque bias settings in each drive mode.

Sport limits torque to front to 20%, Eco to 40%, and Comfort to 50%. GTS is unknown. So you could have sport shifting with comfort bias.

 

[Guzman]

No worries. That 50% comfort is the first I have heard. General consensus is 40/60 F/R in comfort, but who knows. Far be it from Kia to provide that information.....anywhere! Only response was to a member here that both Eco and Comfort are both 40/60.....leading to the confusion and the question.....why???

 

[MerlintheMad]

Only response was to a member here that both Eco and Comfort are both 40/60.....leading to the confusion and the question.....why???

Why not? The car is touted as rear drive bias. The engine mapping is different for Eco or Comfort, RWD, AWD, it's the same for both.