Surprise, another long term test with Brake issue.

[itguy61]

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2018-kia-stinger-gt-long-term-test-review-wrap-up/

Kia should really resolve this with new pads on the newest cars.

 

[WildBill]

Ya think? I love the car but the brake issue is ridiculous...
Shouldn't have to do anything with factory brakes for at least 40k under normal driving conditions.

 

[itguy61]

Ya think? I love the car but the brake issue is ridiculous...
Shouldn't have to do anything with factory brakes for at least 40k under normal driving conditions.

The biggest issue is that Kia motors won't fix it. It is not like they need to put new engines in these cars.

 

[Jstinger]

I agree with the gripes about the rotors but the review in Automobile magazine really highlights how well engineered our Stingers are.

 

[MerlintheMad]

A quick comment about "warped brake rotors" hardly constitutes a recurring issue. Of course, they only turned 19K miles in a year; probably not long enough for a pad deposits issue to happen twice. (Why did Automobile Magazine use the term "warped rotors"? Was it for purely readership consumption? Because the OVC would never call the rotors "warped"; they know better.)

 

[SteveCo]

I was able to 're-bed' the rotors after a slight shudder started to develop, but they never came back to totally silky smooth stopping - and I am not an aggressive braker. After it started to return, I let the intensity build until it was very evident to both driver and passengers.

KIA service noted the pronounced shudder during their test drive, and ordered new front rotors under warranty. I purchased new ceramic pads myself (Centric) and installed them after I got the car back from the rotor change. Swapping the pads took maybe 45 minutes, most of that R&R of the wheels.

Should I have had to pay for new pads? No, but they were cheap - and I didn't want to wait for the problem to reoccur, put up with another period of degradation in brake feel, followed by another service visit to change the rotors again. It was a simple and relatively inexpensive fix, and it's been smooth, even braking every since.

 

[nomadx]

I've been lurking for quite some time, waiting on the right time to purchase my Stinger. I finally test drove one just a few weeks ago and at 13 miles on the odometer, the brake judder already exists. If i were to bring this to the attention of the dealer, I wonder if they would make things right with a pad replacement or simply deny there's an issue? I've read enough to know about the other common issues and it seems most of those are a quick fix, but I cannot stand a brake judder. It ruins the whole experience for me.

 

[SafetyPilotCal]

I have no idea how rotors would get damaged in 13 miles unless they took the car around a circuit at high speed. That's more than likely something else being wrong - possibly lug nut torque.

 

[WildBill]

I've been lurking for quite some time, waiting on the right time to purchase my Stinger. I finally test drove one just a few weeks ago and at 13 miles on the odometer, the brake judder already exists. If i were to bring this to the attention of the dealer, I wonder if they would make things right with a pad replacement or simply deny there's an issue? I've read enough to know about the other common issues and it seems most of those are a quick fix, but I cannot stand a brake judder. It ruins the whole experience for me.

There is only one way to find out you need to make them aware of the issue and make sure they know that it is condition of the sale.
The issue is well documented. Bring copies of C&D, Road & Track, and other reputable reviews. Some of the articles specifically mention that they had pads / rotors replaced so I would find those. (forum threads probably won't be as helpful)

Honestly changing out the pads solves this issue but you will never find a dealer that will change out to an aftermarket pad right off the bat and still give you a warranty on the brakes after that. Maybe they can get you the European pads, I would push for that. It is your best bet. Otherwise just buy a set of pads and change them out yourself after purchase.

 

[SteveCo]

I doubt that deposits have built up at what is basically delivery mileage - very likely it is something else. Bring it to the attention of the dealer, see how they address it it, then try the car again.

A great opportunity to evaluate both the car and the dealer ...

 

[nomadx]

I have no idea how rotors would get damaged in 13 miles unless they took the car around a circuit at high speed. That's more than likely something else being wrong - possibly lug nut torque.

That was my thought, but it certainly had the feeling that's been described.

There is only one way to find out you need to make them aware of the issue and make sure they know that it is condition of the sale.
The issue is well documented. Bring copies of C&D, Road & Track, and other reputable reviews. Some of the articles specifically mention that they had pads / rotors replaced so I would find those. (forum threads probably won't be as helpful)

Honestly changing out the pads solves this issue but you will never find a dealer that will change out to an aftermarket pad right off the bat and still give you a warranty on the brakes after that. Maybe they can get you the European pads, I would push for that. It is your best bet. Otherwise just buy a set of pads and change them out yourself after purchase.

Thanks. I can't seem to find part numbers for the euro spec pads.

I doubt that deposits have built up at what is basically delivery mileage - very likely it is something else. Bring it to the attention of the dealer, see how they address it it, then try the car again.

A great opportunity to evaluate both the car and the dealer ...

It would absolutely be brought to their attention. I bought my 2011 Optima SX from this dealer as well. I'll break out the loyalty card as well.

 

[WildBill]

I can't seem to find part numbers for the euro spec pads.

This is what I have recorded.
US OEM Pads, Front 58101-J5A00
US OEM Pads, Rear 58302-J5A50

Euro OEM Pads, Front J5H90-AKA55
Euro OEM Pads, Rear J5H90-AKA56

 

[nomadx]

This is what I have recorded.
US OEM Pads, Front 58101-J5A00
US OEM Pads, Rear 58302-J5A50

Euro OEM Pads, Front J5H90-AKA55
Euro OEM Pads, Rear J5H90-AKA56

Thanks, WildBill.

 

[Andy C]

We need to write Kia in mass to issue a TSB. This is unacceptable.

 

[Nuthadey]

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[itguy61]

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I never understand why people do this. A lot of people have this issue, I talked to a young man yesterday at the dealership and he had the issue within the first few thousand miles. I don't get why the people come in here and state that because they don't have the issue or the issue is not hitting 100% of the cars that it is not an issue with Kia's choice of pads on this car. People with the problem want to find help and advice on solving it, not hear about the people who are not having the issue. My dealer asked me if I was still having issues and said if I was they would put an upgraded pad on free of charge. I am at 22,000 miles. Sounds like Kia is finally admitting they have a problem, even though it is not affecting everyone.