Drag/Acceleration Mods to improve ¼ mile times and unofficial track thread

[TorkMe]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just say I think you misread my post.

Benefit of the doubt, oh... why thank you.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and go back to ignoring your comments. Reason being... I no longer have to worry about your piggy back beating our times in any timed or measured speed event. 11.39 at 122 MPH on the stock turbos... is smoking fast. And if the community thinks thats fast, just wait till we start running more boost and getting the LC dialed in so the "snip" is no longer needed. Your arrogance is all I need to push me to the next stage of tune development.

 

[Terry@BMS]

I think it's great that Tim is running well in the negative DA weather but he would not be there without the JB4's unique logging and WMI control. Just like I think it's great you're making 600whp on nitrous but you'd also benefit from the JB4's nitrous integration and safety systems. The JB4 is a tuning tool that has useful applications across a wide range of situations.

Also don't fool yourself or try to fool me by conflating Tim's 100s of dragy runs and trial and error to get those record times with what your average customer can expect to run.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

" I quit trying to post them because you start to belittle and make childish comments about me, my customers or my manners.

Um, no shit dummy. "

This was hilarious.

 

[xot1]

Is this some kind of comedy?

 

[TorkMe]

Is this some kind of comedy?

Not at all, lol.

 

[Intelliburn]

Is this some kind of comedy? [/QUOT
Healthy Competitive Banter!

 

[Intelliburn]

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Let’s see the slips. Dragy is a fun toy, and it has been shown to be fairly accurate. But I’m a slips guy. I don’t post my Dragy times really any more because I didn’t like the gripe of people who don’t trust the tech. I don’t pit too much stock into just Dragy numbers for competition purposes. I think it’s great for testing, so I am always happy to see Tim’s Dragy results. I won’t worry about losing my spot until he hits a real track. And I am praying for a DA that is better than the 2000+ I had the day I ran my 11.59.

 

[Tonkabob]

I think it's great that Tim is running well in the negative DA weather but he would not be there without the JB4's unique logging and WMI control. Just like I think it's great you're making 600whp on nitrous but you'd also benefit from the JB4's nitrous integration and safety systems. The JB4 is a tuning tool that has useful applications across a wide range of situations.

Also don't fool yourself or try to fool me by conflating Tim's 100s of dragy runs and trial and error to get those record times with what your average customer can expect to run.

To be fair my 100s of dragy runs is testing new mods and tune revisions. Also documenting gains before and after with new parts when I can. On the secondary mids, before, after, before, after lol. (No gains). So when the tune is done people will benefit from all my testing and run great times with out trial and error.
But the JB4 is a useful add to an ECU tune (or add an ECU tune to your JB4). Logging is good, IAT spoof is useful and can add a little boost if or when needed. Adding back end flash to JB4 has reduced trims and improved shifts, stopping throttle close. Its all good.

 

[Intelliburn]

To be fair my 100s of dragy runs is testing new mods and tune revisions. Also documenting gains before and after with new parts when I can. On the secondary mids, before, after, before, after lol. (No gains). So when the tune is done people will benefit from all my testing and run great times with out trial and error.
But the JB4 is a useful add to an ECU tune (or add an ECU tune to your JB4). Logging is good, IAT spoof is useful and can add a little boost if or when needed. Adding back end flash to JB4 has reduced trims and improved shifts, stopping throttle close. Its all good.

Good point on the JB4 working well with an ECU tune. I have a JB4 and have contemplated an ECU tune as well.

 

[Tonkabob]

Let’s see the slips. Dragy is a fun toy, and it has been shown to be fairly accurate. But I’m a slips guy. I don’t post my Dragy times really any more because I didn’t like the gripe of people who don’t trust the tech. I don’t pit too much stock into just Dragy numbers for competition purposes. I think it’s great for testing, so I am always happy to see Tim’s Dragy results. I won’t worry about losing my spot until he hits a real track. And I am praying for a DA that is better than the 2000+ I had the day I ran my 11.59.

Both have a valid purpose, but yeah slips are the better measure. I can't see you hitting a 1.60 60 foot on an un prepped surface, so I imagine even with better DAs have a hard time matching your 11.59.
Street / dragy is an interesting number as well. I love seeing the hellcat and hellcat redeye consistently only running 11.7s on the street and even the GT500 10.6 track but only 11.4 street. So with our AWDs we can catch and beat many of the big boys on the street.
Both are entertaining and I don't drop $40 and 6 hrs of time for 3 runs on a busy track day.

 

[TorkMe]

Both have a valid purpose, but yeah slips are the better measure. I can't see you hitting a 1.60 60 foot on an un prepped surface, so I imagine even with better DAs have a hard time catching that 11.59.
Street / dragy is an interesting number as well. I love seeing the hellcat and hellcat redeye consistently only running 11.7s on the street and even the GT500 10.6 track but only 11.4 street. So with our AWDs we can catch and beat many of the big boys on the street.
Both are entertaining and I don't drop $40 and 6 hrs of time for 3 runs on a busy track day.

Remember when I was 100% against the Dragy App? LoL!!!

I always find it funny how the shoe changes feet when people start getting knocked off the lists.

Here is what people have to worry about. When I get Launch Control figured out, we will start seeing sub 1.6 sixty foot times, making the lower 11's happen at the drag strip.

If anyone need a case of why a real tune should be selected... try running a bigger turbo on a piggy back.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Remember when I was 100% against the Dragy App? LoL!!!

I always find it funny how the shoe changes feet when people start getting knocked off the lists.

Here is what people have to worry about. When I get Launch Control figured out, we will start seeing sub 1.6 sixty foot times, making the lower 11's happen at the drag strip.

If anyone need a case of why a real tune should be selected... try running a bigger turbo on a piggy back.

I do remember those days. It was one thing we agreed on. It’s actually when you accepted the Dragy as useful that I went out and got one (well, got one given to me because I’m “frugal” lol). Guys like you, Tim, Mike... you understand the usefulness of a Dragy. And you definitely understand how to put the read outs into context, such as DA and incline (and probably read more deeply into which weather parameter is contributing to the DA), but too many others do not use a Dragy with such expertise. As for me losing my spot on the list— if you know me, you know that I pray for that. I have an oddly styled competitive nature. I do t feel like competing if it feels like no one else is. So, for this upcoming season, I am super pumped!

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

Both have a valid purpose, but yeah slips are the better measure. I can't see you hitting a 1.60 60 foot on an un prepped surface, so I imagine even with better DAs have a hard time matching your 11.59.
Street / dragy is an interesting number as well. I love seeing the hellcat and hellcat redeye consistently only running 11.7s on the street and even the GT500 10.6 track but only 11.4 street. So with our AWDs we can catch and beat many of the big boys on the street.
Both are entertaining and I don't drop $40 and 6 hrs of time for 3 runs on a busy track day.

Agreed! And that is another important point about the usefulness of the Dragy. Some of us test things so frequently, that our time and our money would be nonexistent if we only were testing at a legitimate track.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Here is what people have to worry about. When I get Launch Control figured out, we will start seeing sub 1.6 sixty foot times, making the lower 11's happen at the drag strip.

I guess what you mean by “when I get LC figured out” is buying Kagantuned’s ECU LC settings like Tonka posted?

Its gotta be tough seeing his 17psi stage 1 tune already hit 1.82sec 60ft while spinning with NO other performance mods VS the 1.75sec 22psi beta stage 2 Tork tune on a heavily modded Stinger with WMI.

I bet his stage 2 beats your tune to sub 1.6 60fts, so really the only people that have to worry is Tork and their unfortunate customers losing their records.

 

[xot1]

Wow

 

[Tonkabob]

I guess what you mean by “when I get LC figured out” is buying Kagantuned’s ECU LC settings like Tonka posted?

Its gotta be tough seeing his 17psi stage 1 tune already hit 1.82sec 60ft while spinning with NO other performance mods VS the 1.75sec 22psi beta stage 2 Tork tune on a heavily modded Stinger with WMI.

I bet his stage 2 beats your tune to sub 1.6 60fts, so really the only people that have to worry is Tork and their unfortunate customers losing their records.

Good to see you haven't added any mods since your big DIY CAI break through last year and no tune of any kind. As always gracing the forums with your knowledge and expertise...
I agree with Xot1, Wow.

Turns out they don't have LC fully cracked. Full throttle at 2 mph would just go up in smoke on my car.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

I don’t think Tork has to worry about losing their records. By all accounts, they’re well placed to outperform their previous drag records. I think a few others are too. I won’t comment on any of the other tuning options until we see some proof and “real world” results. I am, however, hoping everyone up his or her game. This mid 11s thing is soooo “last year.” Lol

 

[Tonkabob]

E40 test with the tork stage 2 beta ECU tune. Still wet out so I started at 10-15 MPH roll and spun the tires a good part of 1st, hence the timing drop there.
But judging by how the trims moved compared to E10, this thing should handle E50. With winter E85 being only E70 the 1:1 mix did feel a bit odd.

 

[Nuthadey]

As always gracing the forums with your knowledge and expertise...
I agree with Xot1, Wow.

At least he didn't post a three thousand word wall of text like he usually does.


Has anyone considered running DRs yet? What tires are Tork using?