PRESSERtech Kia Stinger GT Dyno RESULTS!!

[Tonkabob]

No, that is not correct. Actual WHP is 407.

There are two points of power loss. One is to rotate the Dyno machine axles. The other is what we all have while driving down the road, which is to rotate the cars axles. My non-tuned WHP is 318 (374 crank HP). 407 with the tune (478 crank.)

There is a 15% power loss to rotate the Dyno. Normally you never see that because the machine can be computer calibrated to increase the reading by 15% when it displays the WHP. When you drive down the road, you aren’t spinning a Dyno machine too.

To estimate crank HP you must then account for the 15% drivetrain HP loss for AWD. My HP at the engine approaches 480.

And that’s all I have to say about that.....

Is your 3.99 0-60 dragy measured?
I was 407hp 450 Tq dynojet with just tork ecu tune and catback. I think i was around 4.2 0-60 and definately 12.44 1/4 back then.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

No, that is not correct. Actual WHP is 407.

There are two points of power loss. One is to rotate the Dyno machine axles. The other is what we all have while driving down the road, which is to rotate the cars axles. My non-tuned WHP is 318 (374 crank HP). 407 with the tune (478 crank.)

There is a 15% power loss to rotate the Dyno. Normally you never see that because the machine can be computer calibrated to increase the reading by 15% when it displays the WHP. When you drive down the road, you aren’t spinning a Dyno machine too.

To estimate crank HP you must then account for the 15% drivetrain HP loss for AWD. My HP at the engine approaches 480.

And that’s all I have to say about that.....

Interesting explanation but still doesn’t make sense and curious where you’re getting that info.

Dynojets(DJ) are inertia dynos, not “load” bearing like a Mustang or SuperFlow dyno. I don’t believe DJ’s are calculating for drag/load on the wheels and measure inertia of the drum speed instead.

Also, the example of a standardized 15% power loss due to spinning the dyno rollers doesn’t make sense since that percentage would vary from car to car. Your saying a 1000hp car would lose 150hp rotating the drum, but only 15hp to rotate the same drum on a 100hp car? I believe it would actually work against your results since moving a 4000lbs car would be harder than just turning a “non-loaded” dyno drum. In theory they would have to factor in less power loss to mimic real world street performance.

Either way I still hope I’m mistaken since 346whp would be disappointing for a full ECU tune. At least 407whp is on par, or close to the 420-450whp most other chips/tunes are running at this time. But again it really only matters if you like it and good for you for trying something different for our Stingers.

 

[MisterMac]

All the information I shared came directly from the guy who runs the automotive technical school.

 

[Tonkabob]

Interesting explanation but still doesn’t make sense and curious where you’re getting that info.

Dynojets(DJ) are inertia dynos, not “load” bearing like a Mustang or SuperFlow dyno. I don’t believe DJ’s are calculating for drag/load on the wheels and measure inertia of the drum speed instead.

Also, the example of a standardized 15% power loss due to spinning the dyno rollers doesn’t make sense since that percentage would vary from car to car. Your saying a 1000hp car would lose 150hp rotating the drum, but only 15hp to rotate the same drum on a 100hp car? I believe it would actually work against your results since moving a 4000lbs car would be harder than just turning a “non-loaded” dyno drum. In theory they would have to factor in less power loss to mimic real world street performance.

Either way I still hope I’m mistaken since 346whp would be disappointing for a full ECU tune. At least 407whp is on par, or close to the 420-450whp most other chips/tunes are running at this time. But again it really only matters if you like it and good for you for trying something different for our Stingers.

Dyno to dyno seems mostly irrelevent. Go out and get some dragy times or slips. Fully or mostly modded people are seeing 420-450 but with just a tune and mp 390-410 hp seems likely.

 

[Angel]

Dyno to dyno seems mostly irrelevent. Go out and get some dragy times or slips. Fully or mostly modded people are seeing 420-450 but with just a tune and mp 390-410 hp seems likely.

Tonka is it 5 am in Seattle right now?

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Dyno to dyno seems mostly irrelevent. Go out and get some dragy times or slips. Fully or mostly modded people are seeing 420-450 but with just a tune and mp 390-410 hp seems likely.

I agree that directly comparing dynos is never going to be accurate, but most peoples results are very similar and higher than 410whp with just 1-2 bolt-on mods.

Terry ran 417whp/515wtq on 91 octane with intakes only, and 441whp/518wtq with just intakes and e30. Kato ran 442whp/525wtq on a load bearing Mustang Dyno with only intakes & WMI. And even Johnny Tig ran 432whp using a Unichip with just intakes & exhaust. Seems like most chip/tunes run about 420-450whp with only 1-2 basic bolt-ons, and 460whp+ adding WMI. FBO Stingers easily run 450whp+ and will likely get close to 500whp with WMI included.

Again, I know comparing different dyno's isnt accurate, but your guesstimates are conservative and on the low side of most chipped/tuned Stinger results to date. Either way 407whp/422wtq is a good start for Pressertechs first attempt at a Stinger tune, and looking forward to seeing what a stage 2 tune will produce.

 

[Tonkabob]

I think intake is the key here. If Mr. Mistermac swapped his MP for an intake he would be at 415-420hp like the rest. Still waiting for MP dynos on a tuned car but I betting its 0- 5 hp.
Gotta get out and run them. Katos 442 whp Mustang dyno should be 500+ whp dynojet (which we know is not possible) and he is still .2 and 1 MPH behind me in the 1/4. I probably only have 450 WHP. Its all about the results for me.

ECU vs Piggy should have similar HP levels. They both control boost, timing and AFR. The benefits of the ECU tune wont show up on the dyno.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I think intake is the key here. If Mr. Mistermac swapped his MP for an intake he would be at 415-420hp like the rest. Still waiting for MP dynos on a tuned car but I betting its 0- 5 hp.
Gotta get out and run them. Katos 442 whp Mustang dyno should be 500+ whp dynojet (which we know is not possible) and he is still .2 and 1 MPH behind me in the 1/4. I probably only have 450 WHP. Its all about the results for me.

ECU vs Piggy should have similar HP levels. They both control boost, timing and AFR. The benefits of the ECU tune wont show up on the dyno.

Intakes do make a big difference, but Mistermac already proved the secondary DPs on a tuned Stinger makes about the same WHP as intakes. He showed a 24whp gain(383 to 407) by only adding secondary DPs to his Pressertech tune, which is almost exactly the same as Terry & others got from intakes with the JB4.

His numbers may change 2-3hp in either direction, but he would never gain another 13whp by switching to intakes. Another reason it would be difficult to match other chips/tunes is the lack of torque the Pressertechs tune runs. 422wtq is about 100tq less than most other chip/tunes available which is very significant.

I agree Katos 442whp on the Mustang dyno would be more on a dynojet but the amount of "load" could vary so hes probably closer to 460-480whp. I think your stage 1.5 tune with IC, exhaust and 20psi+ is probably very similar to his 460whp+. I get your point, but there are too many variables between your 1/4m runs to make a real apple to apple comparison. Your .2 advantage is more likely due to your quicker gear changes/less throttle closure at shifts, than extra power.

As you said the advantages of an ECU tune dont show on up on a dyno, but either way Pressertech has a way to go before matching Torks tune, or the top chips.

 

[Angel]

@MisterMac @eflyguy anybody with a preserttech tune been able to go the track 1/4 mile? If so what times were you getting. Does anyone know what max psi does presertech for and if the adjust the torque limiters?

 

[Chris71]

You guys still have the for stinger available?

 

[StungBlueGT2]

You guys still have the for stinger available?

Doesn’t look like they have Kia listed on their website but think they may still be able to tune our Stingers.

If not Kagantuned just released a full ECU tune for our Stingers that made 410whp/470wtq on a Mustang dyno with no other mods.

 

[Chris71]

Doesn’t look like they have Kia listed on their website but think they may still be able to tune our Stingers.

If not Kagantuned just released a full ECU tune for our Stingers that made 410whp/470wtq with no other mods.

Are they good?

 

[Chris71]

The extra tq is what I really like

Doesn’t look like they have Kia listed on their website but think they may still be able to tune our Stingers.

If not Kagantuned just released a full ECU tune for our Stingers that made 410whp/470wtq on a Mustang dyno with no other mods.

link?

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Are they good?

Yeah they are a reputable tuner from NY and have many 1000hp+ cars including EVOs, Corvettes, Audi RS6/RS7, etc.

The extra tq is what I really like
link?

Yeah I agree and they are making almost 140wtq gains with just their tune and no other mods.

They’re still working on their website but they have a basic one with a few vehicles up now. Kaganader Tuning

 

[Not Here Anymore]

Just 15 miles from my home..

Eflyguy .. what was numbers as you have AWD like I have and how does it pull and over all feel ??? ,, my ECU was sent out Monday to Pressertech , just hoping my few engine Mods will work ok with the tune !

 

[Chris71]

It will, I drove down, got the tune three weeks ago. I have FMIC, intakes, midpipes.
Getting dyno soon so was waiting to post, but since you posted will not wait.
Those guys are fantastic!
I love the tune so far.
Gas mileage better
The throttle response is much better than stock
I love the power, love not having the wires from the piggy back. I had jb4 which was awesome but did not want the piggyback anymore. I chose these guys because they have been doing top end cars for years! I trust the tune, I am very happy!
MisterMac has over 20k miles on his tune with 0 issues. You will love it!

 

[Not Here Anymore]

It will, I drove down, got the tune three weeks ago. I have FMIC, intakes, midpipes.
Getting dyno soon so was waiting to post, but since you posted will not wait.
Those guys are fantastic!
I love the tune so far.
Gas mileage better
The throttle response is much better than stock
I love the power, love not having the wires from the piggy back. I had jb4 which was awesome but did not want the piggyback anymore. I chose these guys because they have been doing top end cars for years! I trust the tune, I am very happy!
MisterMac has over 20k miles on his tune with 0 issues. You will love it!

That is awesome , hoping for the same after my ECU gets reinstalled in my Stinger GT and like you I like a clean engine bay with no extra wires hanging around LOL

 

[Not Here Anymore]

And this is 100% Stock with PRESSERTECH ECU Upgrade

I am excited to have my Stinger GT ECU tuned ,, I ask Owen of Classified Motorsports to send out my ECU for a Pressertech Tune , and I run off Chevron 94 here with Octane booster, just to make sure I get enough Octane on what I have now ! all my Mods,, are listed on the paperwork ! I can't wait to feel the difference ! Cheers Arnie

 

[MisterMac]

@Arnie War , your Stinger will be a beast unleashed with the @Pressertech tune.

 

[eflyguy]

I don't have dyno numbers but others do. It was noticeably quicker, I did post some times in the review thread but a forum upgrade deleted those pics. I got also got a 3.9 0-60 that my logger somehow lost. This was the same day as the tune.

I have an intercooler but health issues for the past year have prevented me from installing it. I've done a lot of logging of intake air temps and expect it would make a significant difference in temps, but I would need to get out and race it to compare performance. Again, just unable to do that. It is astounding how much heat your get in compressed air!

I run 87/regular octane unless I'm taking it to the strip, which I'll plan for in advance so I can run out what's in there and put in 1/2 tank of premium. Close to 30mpg on road trips, low 20's around town or in the mountains.