Snow Performance WMI Stage 2 Review!

[ZyroXZ2]

As far as safety is concerned I mean 100% is still as flammable as gass and I used braded lines so it’s like the same as gas’s lines and stuff I mean all of it is flammable and should be treated as sutch but I think the crazy safety concerns are over the top and also 50-50 smells the same as 100 so fumes are about the same but I can’t smell it in the trunk at all but to each his own and treat it with respect

Concentration, buddy, concentration of the fumes, lol

Just so you know a 55 gallon drum was 217$ think big and save

Oh I'm not talking about the cost, I'm talking about having a massive barrel of flash flammable accelerant around and the small but constant vapor leak. It's not just about money. The safety concerns are because bad things happen around highly flammable things, and methanol is more volatile than standard gasoline given its toxicity level is significantly higher along with said low flash point. Heck, it might not even be your fault if a fire started nearby, but a barrel of pure methanol bursting is sure to make it dangerously worse

 

[Tonkabob]

Here is the snow trunk mounted under the spare. Just a little tilt. No drill, no cut, no mounting plate.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Here is the snow trunk mounted under the spare. Just a little tilt. No drill, no cut, no mounting plate.
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Just a little? That's nearly horizontal, lmao ... Fortunately, the pump can be mounted in any orientation, but my concern would be gravity feed there in which there's an upturn right before the inlet of the pump due to said orientation. It may have worked for you, but I'd have been concerned about inconsistent flow like that

EDIT: Come to think about it, you let the spare sit on the tubing? I mean, it wouldn't sit directly, but it surely forces it to bend a lot more than in the pic without the spare...

 

[Tonkabob]

Just a little? That's nearly horizontal, lmao ... Fortunately, the pump can be mounted in any orientation, but my concern would be gravity feed there in which there's an upturn right before the inlet of the pump due to said orientation. It may have worked for you, but I'd have been concerned about inconsistent flow like that

EDIT: Come to think about it, you let the spare sit on the tubing? I mean, it wouldn't sit directly, but it surely forces it to bend a lot more than in the pic without the spare...

The pump is 45 degrees the bottle has a very slight angle. The tire doesn't pinch the tubing as its fairly far from the pump and the tire doesn't touch in the back.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Just an FYI for everyone, after continued testing, the ramp-up seems to be better when set starting at 6psi and full at 17psi. What's strange is I'm seeing peak bursts of 20-21psi boost from the analog gauge, and I'm still on stock DPs. That would also explain why I might be blowing pipes loose off the couplers, lol

 

[Gleis25]

I am in NorCal, and I am a white Stinger... BUT I don't think that's me, though: I haven't run against an Evo at all. I have been blowing people away, though, like the late model SRT8 mentioned in my Kill Tally thread, and recently walked away from a Guilia Quadrifoglio that saw me coming on the freeway at half throttle, and then floored it up to my ass only to find that when I decided to go full throttle, I'd walk away and he'd give up, lmfao

There are faster cars than me, but a faster car has not raced me, yet

Please stop. You did not walk, nor would you walk, a Giulia Quadrifoglio..That car runs a 3.6 to 60 and 11.8/11.9 1/4 mile stock. Unless you are nearly full bolt ons and running the brake snip mod from a stop, you aren’t walking that car. They clearly weren’t trying to race.

 

[Manaz]

Please stop. You did not walk, nor would you walk, a Giulia Quadrifoglio..That car runs a 3.6 to 60 and 11.8/11.9 1/4 mile stock. Unless you are nearly full bolt ons and running the brake snip mod from a stop, you aren’t walking that car. They clearly weren’t trying to race.

Probably just on their way to the mechanic...

 

[Tonkabob]

Please stop. You did not walk, nor would you walk, a Giulia Quadrifoglio..That car runs a 3.6 to 60 and 11.8/11.9 1/4 mile stock. Unless you are nearly full bolt ons and running the brake snip mod from a stop, you aren’t walking that car. They clearly weren’t trying to race.

Lol, i just saw one at the track a few weeks ago. His dial in was 12.2 and mine was 11.9 with no brake snip, no wmi and I still have primary cats. I Didn't get to race him however.
I broke out in the finals and ran a 11.86.

 

[Gleis25]

Lol, i just saw one at the track a few weeks ago. His dial in was 12.2 and mine was 11.9 with no brake snip, no wmi and I still have primary cats. I Didn't get to race him however.
I broke out in the finals and ran a 11.86.

One of the faster known Stingers with awd(your car) vs a stock rwd at the track, that’s expected. A different driver at the track in his car could have posted a better time. Even then, he wasn’t walked by any means.

My point was, if that guy truly floored it while right behind him on the highway, his Stinger isn’t walking it.

 

[Tonkabob]

One of the faster known Stingers with awd(your car) vs a stock rwd at the track, that’s expected. A different driver at the track in his car could have posted a better time. Even then, he wasn’t walked by any means.

My point was, if that guy truly floored it while right behind him on the highway, his Stinger isn’t walking it.

Agree that most moded Stingers would be very close to the Guilia.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Please stop. You did not walk, nor would you walk, a Giulia Quadrifoglio..That car runs a 3.6 to 60 and 11.8/11.9 1/4 mile stock. Unless you are nearly full bolt ons and running the brake snip mod from a stop, you aren’t walking that car. They clearly weren’t trying to race.

Please stop. You know a lot less about modded Stingers than you think you do. Heck I see a few responses below of people who don't exactly like me or the products I installed, but already inadvertently prove you wrong without realizing it. Someone already ran Quadrifoglio times without WMI and on catted DPs, but more on that later.

But in case there's some brains on this armchair racer, I'll humor you and take the time on both your logic and your internet math racing:

LOGIC:

Logically, no one doesn't try JUST enough so that I only walk away. I didn't stomp him, I didn't blow his doors off, I didn't jog away, I walked away. So he sees me floor it, and then only floors it just enough so that I can walk away, put 1 car length, and then let's up and falls back? I mean, purely on that alone, you clearly don't race in real life. No one does that in all my years of racing on and off a track: if you can pass someone, you will. No one holds back "just enough" in a car with sufficient power. I also know you're new around here because people don't install WMI on Stingers with barely any mods. I am near full bolt ons: the only thing I'm missing is primary DPs and an IC... and most people on WMI haven't upgraded their IC because it's quite interchangeable.

MATH:

Okay, but you sit on the internet more than work on cars, so you know math, right? I dyno'd 442WHP BEFORE I even installed WMI on catted DPs, on SAE correction even. So that puts me at 520HP. Oh, but wait, you figure that's too generous! So let's go ahead and dial me all the way down to 505HP, the exact same as the Quadrifoglio. I'm a RWD GT with no options, which I'm finding out actually puts me closer to 3800 lbs (I've been wrongly touting I'm running around in a 2 ton car, which is only partially accurate if we add the weight of a driver). The Quadrifoglio is also 3800 lbs without a driver. So before I've installed WMI, I have a matching power-to-weight ratio with the safe assumption he's not a fatass below the neck and him and I are within, say, 20 lbs of each other in weight. Then, let's suppose for absolute shit's sake that after WMI, despite feeling it pull harder, I only gained a measly 20HP going to LAP3 Pro Mode 3 and cooling the intake charge substantially. Since we're on the highway, launch times goes out the window for one. Second, let's suppose the Quadrifoglio DOES run an 11.9 1/4. Let's suppose that, like most cars from the factory, a Quadrifoglio's better launch means that a Stinger, like many modded ones without the brake snip, actually makes up more of its time in the back half than the launch (which, if you've been watching 1/4 mile times, is the case with many high 11s times) in order to make similar times... which lines up with the Stinger's larger displacement engine than the Quadrifoglio. So let's suppose that the same professional driver that ran that 11.9 1/4 was placed in my car, pre-WMI with equal power to weight ratio, and pulls off a 4.0-4.2s 0-60 level of launch (which is the max possible without the brake snip at these power levels) and also runs an 11.9 1/4... which by the post after you proves is possible without WMI and primary cats and was done in a heavier AWD trim. You really want to sit there and think that my car, which already by internet maths would match a Quadrifoglio before WMI, didn't get faster after moving to a more aggressive mode on WMI?

But wait, there's more! I actually DO know math, sooo... A relatively known average (varies a bit by vehicle and based on gearing, though we do have 8 of those!) is that for every 20HP, you cut about 0.1s off your 1/4 mile time on a given vehicle. Let's suppose that with WMI, I run an 11.8 1/4. Around there is about a 118MPH trap time assuming, like all internet maths, no driver effect (as you saw from a follow-up post, someone actually ran on the same track as a Quadrifoglio and ran faster times, once again not on WMI and with cats). Since I've spent time at the drag strip, I can tell you that visually, 0.1s in the 11s range is about a 1 car gap starting dead even. You see, the faster you go, the bigger the gap for an increasingly small time (duh, right?). As it stands, all of this lines up with what happened on the freeway. You see, at 118MPH, 0.1s is approximately 17ft (rounded down just for you). The Stinger is 16ft in length. Assuming we're both high 11s cars on the internet math method, me walking away and putting 1 car on him on the freeway causing him to give up is not a fairy tale by literally any stretch of any sort of imagination. It's literally what happened.

Hopefully, you can just go away after this. I don't like people like you, the armchair mechanics and armchair racers. While I take the horsepower levels people tell me on modded cars with a grain of salt myself, I never waste my time trying to "call someone out" like I know better. You really should try spending more time with actual cars.

EDIT: Typos. Of course.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Lol, i just saw one at the track a few weeks ago. His dial in was 12.2 and mine was 11.9 with no brake snip, no wmi and I still have primary cats. I Didn't get to race him however.
I broke out in the finals and ran a 11.86.

You and I may not be buddies, but thank you for proving my point even if you did not intend to

 

[Gleis25]

Please stop. You know a lot less about modded Stingers than you think you do. Heck I see a few responses below of people who don't exactly like me or the products I installed, but already inadvertently prove you wrong without realizing it. Someone already ran Quadrifoglio times without WMI and on catted DPs, but more on that later.

But in case there's some brains on this armchair racer, I'll humor you and take the time on both your logic and your internet math racing:

LOGIC:

Logically, no one doesn't try JUST enough so that I only walk away. I didn't stomp him, I didn't blow his doors off, I didn't jog away, I walked away. So he sees me floor it, and then only floors it just enough so that I can walk away, put 1 car length, and then let's up and falls back? I mean, purely on that alone, you clearly don't race in real life. No one does that in all my years of racing on and off a track: if you can pass someone, you will. No one holds back "just enough" in a car with sufficient power. I also know you're new around here because people don't install WMI on Stingers with barely any mods. I am near full bolt ons: the only thing I'm missing is primary DPs and an IC... and most people on WMI haven't upgraded their IC because it's quite interchangeable.

MATH:

Okay, but you sit on the internet more than work on cars, so you know math, right? I dyno'd 442WHP BEFORE I even installed WMI on catted DPs, on SAE correction even. So that puts me at 520HP. Oh, but wait, you figure that's too generous! So let's go ahead and dial me all the way down to 505HP, the exact same as the Quadrifoglio. I'm a RWD GT with no options, which I'm finding out actually puts me closer to 3800 lbs (I've been wrongly touting I'm running around in a 2 ton car, which is only partially accurate if we add the weight of a driver). The Quadrifoglio is also 3800 lbs without a driver. So before I've installed WMI, I have a matching power-to-weight ratio with the safe assumption he's not a fatass below the neck and him and I are within, say, 20 lbs of each other in weight. Then, let's suppose for absolute shit's sake that after WMI, despite feeling it pull harder, I only gained a measly 20HP going to LAP3 Pro Mode 3 and cooling the intake charge substantially. Since we're on the highway, launch times goes out the window for one. Second, let's suppose the Quadrifoglio DOES run an 11.9 1/4. Let's suppose that, like most cars from the factory, a Quadrifoglio's better launch means that a Stinger, like many modded ones without the brake snip, actually makes up more of its time in the back half than the launch (which, if you've been watching 1/4 mile times, is the case with many high 11s times) in order to make similar times... which lines up with the Stinger's larger displacement engine than the Quadrifoglio. So let's suppose that the same professional driver that ran that 11.9 1/4 was placed in my car, pre-WMI with equal power to weight ratio, and pulls off a 4.0-4.2s 0-60 level of launch (which is the max possible without the brake snip at these power levels) and also runs an 11.9 1/4... which by the post after you proves is possible without WMI and primary cats and was done in a heavier AWD trim. You really want to sit there and think that my car, which already by internet maths would match a Quadrifoglio before WMI, didn't get faster after moving to a more aggressive mode on WMI?

But wait, there's more! I actually DO know math, sooo... A relatively known average (varies a bit by vehicle and based on gearing, though we do have 8 of those!) is that for every 20HP, you cut about 0.1s off your 1/4 mile time on a given vehicle. Let's suppose that with WMI, I run an 11.8 1/4. Around there is about a 118MPH trap time assuming, like all internet maths, no driver effect (as you saw from a follow-up post, someone actually ran on the same track as a Quadrifoglio and ran faster times, once again not on WMI and with cats). Since I've spent time at the drag strip, I can tell you that visually, 0.1s in the 11s range is about a 1 car gap starting dead even. You see, the faster you go, the bigger the gap for an increasingly small time (duh, right?). As it stands, all of this lines up with what happened on the freeway. You see, at 118MPH, 0.1s is approximately 17ft (rounded down just for you). The Stinger is 16ft in length. Assuming we're both high 11s cars on the internet math method, me walking away and putting 1 car on him on the freeway causing him to give up is not a fairy tale by literally any stretch of any sort of imagination. It's literally what happened.

Hopefully, you can just go away after this. I don't like people like you, the armchair mechanics and armchair racers. While I take the horsepower levels people tell me on modded cars with a grain of salt myself, I never waste my time trying to "call someone out" like I know better. You really should try spending more time with actual cars.

EDIT: Typos. Of course.

Lol! I’m glad my post turned into making you write a novel. I never disagreed that modded, the Stinger would be close. To your point of modding the Stinger, I’ve posted times and have a 4.0 to 60 in it so I’m well aware of what they are capable of. With that said, there are still cars quicker than this. I’m not ignorant to that fact. And when an internet hero like yourself claims victories against every car that’s tested you, it makes it harder to believe everything you say. Especially when you make a bold claim like the one against the Guilia.

Let’s humor your logic though. Assuming your story is true and he’s behind you. You floor it first, giving you the obvious advantage to start since he clearly can’t floor it while being up your ass as claimed. That easily explains initially pulling any distance and doesn’t prove he tried racing you. Nice try hard explanation though lol

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Lol! I’m glad my post turned into making you write a novel. I never disagreed that modded, the Stinger would be close. To your point of modding the Stinger, I’ve posted times and have a 4.0 to 60 in it so I’m well aware of what they are capable of. With that said, there are still cars quicker than this. I’m not ignorant to that fact. And when an internet hero like yourself claims victories against every car that’s tested you, it makes it harder to believe everything you say. Especially when you make a bold claim like the one against the Guilia.

Let’s humor your logic though. Assuming your story is true and he’s behind you. You floor it first, giving you the obvious advantage to start since he clearly can’t floor it while being up your ass as claimed. That easily explains initially pulling any distance and doesn’t prove he tried racing you. Nice try hard explanation though lol

Yes, I give people a chance and take the time. Humoring you is that chance. Unlike you, I don't assume people are complete idiots, I assume they just need more knowledge when they start their first conversation with someone by talking down to them.

Having said that, you're sticking with your logic that still doesn't make sense and concerns me greatly. Yes, I started first, and continued to walk away for an entire car length into the triple digits. But yea, he entered the triple digits because, you know, he wasn't even racing... The fact that he pulled up on my ass fast as all hell after hearing me get on it half throttle just merging onto the freeway should have told you otherwise and that he was ready to get on it. He clearly wanted to test me and got walked. He accepted his defeat, unlike you, lol

 

[Gleis25]

Yes, I give people a chance and take the time. Humoring you is that chance. Unlike you, I don't assume people are complete idiots, I assume they just need more knowledge when they start their first conversation with someone by talking down to them.

Having said that, you're sticking with your logic that still doesn't make sense and concerns me greatly. Yes, I started first, and continued to walk away for an entire car length into the triple digits. But yea, he entered the triple digits because, you know, he wasn't even racing... The fact that he pulled up on my ass fast as all hell after hearing me get on it half throttle just merging onto the freeway should have told you otherwise and that he was ready to get on it. He clearly wanted to test me and got walked. He accepted his defeat, unlike you, lol

Had you actually read my first post, I simply said you did not walk that car, nor would you. One car length, regardless of circumstances, is not walking a car in the slightest way lol. You as a modding/street racing expert should know such a thing

My point stands. You started first while already ahead of him and never pulled more than a car ahead. Had he been ahead of you and done the same thing, you would have been “walked” as you call it lol

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Had you actually read my first post, I simply said you did not walk that car, nor would you. One car length, regardless of circumstances, is not walking a car in the slightest way lol. You as a modding/street racing expert should know such a thing

My point stands. You started first while already ahead of him and never pulled more than a car ahead. Had he been ahead of you and done the same thing, you would have been “walked” as you call it lol

You really don't race much, do you? Do you know what walking looks like in cars that are running 11s? It looks like a walk, because again, the gap grows for a smaller amount of time as cars get faster and faster. I covered, say, 17 ft in what amounts to the back half of a 1/4 mile race. What is that, 4 seconds? A car moving 17 ft away in even, say, 5 seconds looks like *dun dun dun* a car walking away. Imagine a car moving away from you 3ft every second even though you've got your pedal to the floor. It's why he let off, he knew he wasn't faster. Even if we lined up next to each other and hit the throttle at the same time, he wouldn't walk away. I'd walk away slower, sure, but I'd still be doing it. For him to be faster than me and walk me, he would have MATCHED me under the conditions of what I described. Methinks he was a little more experienced than you in racing, lmao

 

[Gleis25]

You really don't race much, do you? Do you know what walking looks like in cars that are running 11s? It looks like a walk, because again, the gap grows for a smaller amount of time as cars get faster and faster. I covered, say, 17 ft in what amounts to the back half of a 1/4 mile race. What is that, 4 seconds? A car moving 17 ft away in even, say, 5 seconds looks like *dun dun dun* a car walking away. Imagine a car moving away from you 3ft every second even though you've got your pedal to the floor. It's why he let off, he knew he wasn't faster. Even if we lined up next to each other and hit the throttle at the same time, he wouldn't walk away. I'd walk away slower, sure, but I'd still be doing it. For him to be faster than me and walk me, he would have MATCHED me under the conditions of what I described. Methinks he was a little more experienced than you in racing, lmao

Bud, you can’t race a car and call it a win when you were ahead of him the entire time and started first! Lol How hard is that to understand? You were one car length away by the end. He obviously wasn’t touching your bumper when you started so you already had part of that car length from the get go. If you were side by side and went wot together, I guarantee you don’t pull from him like you claim. I’d imagine the overwhelming majority of people would agree with me, but it clearly isn’t worth the headache of being called ignorant or whatever else you want to come up with lol

 

[ZyroXZ2]

Bud, you can’t race a car and call it a win when you were ahead of him the entire time and started first! Lol How hard is that to understand? You were one car length away by the end. He obviously wasn’t touching your bumper when you started so you already had part of that car length from the get go. If you were side by side and went wot together, I guarantee you don’t pull from him like you claim. I’d imagine the overwhelming majority of people would agree with me, but it clearly isn’t worth the headache of being called ignorant or whatever else you want to come up with lol

The majority of people who armchair race? Of course.

But in the real world, not everyone gets to line up nice and neat. With enough experience, people who regularly street race easily sort out where we're at even if we're not sitting at a drag strip. You don't seem experienced enough to be able to determine these scenarios, so you really shouldn't be talking the way you are. *sigh* Last chance effort to explain after which I won't continue bothering: in order to walk me if we were evenly started on the freeway, he'd have to be a faster car. If he's behind me and I start first, he would at the minimum match me, if not eventually STILL pull up on me. If you're tailing a car in front of you giving you the aerodynamic drag advantage and it's walking away from you, even if you started so much as a half second later, that car is faster than you. Period.

 

[Gleis25]

The majority of people who armchair race? Of course.

But in the real world, not everyone gets to line up nice and neat. With enough experience, people who regularly street race easily sort out where we're at even if we're not sitting at a drag strip. You don't seem experienced enough to be able to determine these scenarios, so you really shouldn't be talking the way you are. *sigh* Last chance effort to explain after which I won't continue bothering: in order to walk me if we were evenly started on the freeway, he'd have to be a faster car. If he's behind me and I start first, he would at the minimum match me, if not eventually STILL pull up on me. If you're tailing a car in front of you giving you the aerodynamic drag advantage and it's walking away from you, even if you started so much as a half second later, that car is faster than you. Period.

Is he supposed to just run your ass at 100+ just to prove his car is even or quicker than yours? Would you prefer he runs through your ass and rear ends ya to prove that? You are an idiot racing like that and actually believing everyone has the balls to hold wot and stay right on your cars bumper is ignorant on your part.

But please do continue to street race and “walk” all these cars while they aren’t even racing you or couldn’t if they wanted to lol

 

[MerlintheMad]

You two are fun(ny). Been entertaining read, too.

I'm glad I quit when I had hardly started.