Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.

[DaBears4Lyfe]

I don't know if the intercooler offers much benefit yet as I haven't tested it personally. It's interesting that the "worlds fastest" Stinger (ours at ~120mph) is running stock downpipes, stock exhaust, and the factory intercooler.

Of all the mods out the primary downpipes probably boost torque dramatically (good for AWD vehicles launching), and may open up a little top end power. Waiting for someone to do solid back to back testing.

In terms of tuning with downpipes the v6 maps work well, but like all areas of development, we'll continue working with customers for improvement as we see opportunities. Also be aware installing downpipes is highly illegal inside the USA so if you're going to violate federal law probably not a bright idea to share that on public discussion forums.

JB4 has the fastest stinger? Or fastest trap times but slower 1/4 mile times? Last I checked even with meth the jb4 had a slower 1/4 mile than 2 others. Seems like a but of missinformstion fo the uninformed Terry.

 

[Angel]

I don't know if the intercooler offers much benefit yet as I haven't tested it personally. It's interesting that the "worlds fastest" Stinger (ours at ~120mph) is running stock downpipes, stock exhaust, and the factory intercooler.

Of all the mods out the primary downpipes probably boost torque dramatically (good for AWD vehicles launching), and may open up a little top end power. Waiting for someone to do solid back to back testing.

In terms of tuning with downpipes the v6 maps work well, but like all areas of development, we'll continue working with customers for improvement as we see opportunities. Also be aware installing downpipes is highly illegal inside the USA so if you're going to violate federal law probably not a bright idea to share that on public discussion forums.

Thank You Sir....For your last statement about being illegal will say this....MURICAAA!!!

 

[Terry@BMS]

JB4 has the fastest stinger? Or fastest trap times but slower 1/4 mile times? Last I checked even with meth the jb4 had a slower 1/4 mile than 2 others. Seems like a but of missinformstion fo the uninformed Terry.

Fastest refers to trap speed, quickest refers to elapsed time.

For example on E30, no WMI:

On E30, with WMI active:

You'll notice we've posted similar ~120mph traps on WMI + 91 octane, too. I'm sure your apology will be forthcoming <rolleyes>.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Fastest refers to trap speed, quickest refers to elapsed time.

For example on E30, no WMI:

On E30, with WMI active:

You'll notice we've posted similar ~120mph traps on WMI + 91 octane, too. I'm sure your apology will be forthcoming <rolleyes>.

Fastest car to me is the one with the best 1/4 mile time not the best trap speed. Didnt know when you race someone who ever had the highest trap speed won... guess that's how it's done where you are from. Apologize for what? For making sure the word tricky you guys love to use is corrected. Congrats on the trap speed. I'm sure you can tell the tail lights in front of you at least my car got to 120 mph.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Fastest car to me

It's continually amazing to me how you, John, and others can type so much volume in a myopic reply focused on some irrelevant detail in my post while the main point completely flies over your head.

 

[washguy]

Im starting to see a trend forming up....word has it "Angel" and" Dabeers for less" posts are constructed in the same manner...very tedious reading so Im told..I have no proof whatsoever though....could it be that they are doppelgangers? And to prove the point no one ,and I repeat no one has seen them in the same place at the same time? Wash

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

It's continually amazing to me how you, John, and others can type so much volume in a myopic reply focused on some irrelevant detail in my post while the main point completely flies over your head.

Main point is you think you have the fastest stinger... you dont, get your 1/4 mil to the top of the leaderboard. That's the fastest 1/4 mile car.

If you raced a gtr that hit a 11.6 1/4 mile but a 118 trap speed would you still think the stinger is faster?

 

[Kamauxx]

I don't know if the intercooler offers much benefit yet as I haven't tested it personally. It's interesting that the "worlds fastest" Stinger (ours at ~120mph)

Not to beat a nearly dead horse but the "world" is a little bit bigger than the United States. We may not have any Korean tuners posting on these forums but I've got a pretty good idea that there are some Stingers in SK going a lot faster than your car.

Now, this isn't something you should get upset about. Making a claim of being "world's best" at anything is sure to be met with some skepticism/disagreeing/outrage/fact checking/etc. Surely you were aware of that when you posted that claim.

 

[Blitz]

Im starting to see a trend forming up....word has it "Angel" and" Dabeers for less" posts are constructed in the same manner...very tedious reading so Im told..I have no proof whatsoever though....could it be that they are doppelgangers? And to prove the point no one ,and I repeat no one has seen them in the same place at the same time? Wash

What? That's all I can ever think about your posts until I try to read what you typed a few times. Are you a ESL kid?

Come on boys. Let's keep it civil.

Your arguments are looked at much more critically if they don't include bashing and misspelled rants. If you really feel strongly about something, try to make an unbiased, well constructed argument/post and you'll have a much higher impact on readers.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Come on boys. Let's keep it civil.

Your arguments are looked at much more critically if they don't include bashing and misspelled rants. If you really feel strongly about something, try to make an unbiased, well constructed argument/post and you'll have a much higher impact on readers.

You're right I shouldn't have took that shot, just again people try to throw dirt personally and I reacted, but it's just a forum. People will always do it.

 

[Angel]

You're right I shouldn't have took that shot, just again people try to throw dirt personally and I reacted, but it's just a forum. People will always do it.

Now you know what it feels to be me on this forum .... seems like we’re both becoming popular guys on this forum .... lol jk ..... I have made a lot of buddies here ....stay positive bro next week the intercooler Install !!!!! Merica !!!

 

[Angel]

Im starting to see a trend forming up....word has it "Angel" and" Dabeers for less" posts are constructed in the same manner...very tedious reading so Im told..I have no proof whatsoever though....could it be that they are doppelgangers? And to prove the point no one ,and I repeat no one has seen them in the same place at the same time? Wash

No comment ..... I will take that as a complement ...... you are truly partially retarded ......dammit I contradict myself all the time I said I would not comment .... Merica !!! All that means is the me an Bear speak our opinions for right or wrong dude and we don’t care about the rage from others ... get over it buddy .....

 

[Terry@BMS]

Main point is you think you have the fastest stinger...

No, the point of the post was that the benefit of bolt on modifications like intercooler, downpipes, and midpipes, are not exactly proven yet. As evidence to that I offered that our Stinger with none of those modifications has posted the "worlds fastest" trap speed around here.

We have a Korean vendor with hybrid turbos making ~580whp, with another ~75whp on the table if we can improve the tuning, so I'm quite sure 120mph can be easily eclipsed.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

No, the point of the post was that the benefit of bolt on modifications like intercooler, downpipes, and midpipes, are not exactly proven yet. As evidence to that I offered that our Stinger with none of those modifications has posted the "worlds fastest" trap speed around here.

We have a Korean vendor with hybrid turbos making ~580whp, with another ~75whp on the table if we can improve the tuning, so I'm quite sure 120mph can be easily eclipsed.

I guess dynos dont mean anything. Just becuase your product is meant for the mass and not an individual's modifications, I wouldn't say they arent proven yet. That's like me saying using meth or e30 isnt exactly proven since the two fastest 1/4 time owners dont use either. That wouldnt make sense for me to do so.

 

[Dochidalgo]

Gee, fastest Stingers controversy in a GT car as if it were a real sport car.....
This GT car, needs a better air intake system, better bigger turbos, better intercooler, better spark plugs, better exhaust system, and in consequence, better supension system, better brake system and a better ECU tune from OEM.....My almost 320 HPs GT Stinger, at the rear wheels needs a better suspension since right now to handle this more than enough amount of horsepower !!!.....do you see my point????
SORRY, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.....

 

[Terry@BMS]

I guess dynos dont mean anything. Just becuase your product is meant for the mass and not an individual's modifications, I wouldn't say they arent proven yet. That's like me saying using meth or e30 isnt exactly proven since the two fastest 1/4 time owners dont use either. That wouldnt make sense for me to do so.

Dynos are useful comparison tools but keep in mind dynojets run lower than real world load so pushing octane limits on one is not the same as pushing a car down the 1/4 or 1/2 mile. I think you meant quickest 1/4 mile times, which adds in the extra variable of traction. While fastest (trap speeds) is largely a function of power to weight. Also there is less than 1/10th of a second separating all the quickest times well within the margin of error for any one run. While the trap speed differences are more on the order of 1-3mph so easier to spot trends.

We've seen enough cars run on pump gas vs. E85 mixtures to see a clear upward trend in their trap speeds. I'm the only one who has provided test results for WMI and compared to pump gas gains are dramatic, compared to E30 minimal so far.

 

[DaJackson]

Fastest car to me is the one with the best 1/4 mile time not the best trap speed.

You don’t just get to make up the definition of words. Fastest = trap and quickest = e.t. has been around a long time.

If you want your opinion to be that fastest = e.t. that’s fine just understand it’s wrong.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Did a quick poll on FB (sorry havent had time to look at how to do polls here) on highest trap speed and et. Here was the results of close to 20 people.

I'll give this one to Terry. I still would never tell anyone I have a faster car after I lose. It just feels wrong and contradicting.

 

[Terry@BMS]

You saw this link shared there right?

Drag Racing 101: Quick vs Fast - Drag Import News

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

You saw this link shared there right?

Drag Racing 101: Quick vs Fast - Drag Import News

It still seems just wrong to me... but guess that's on me. I get the logic, but fastest to the line would be who got there faster.... I'll have to let it sink in so I get it right.