Drag/Acceleration Kia Stinger 1/4 Mile Times

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Says the guy with no 11 second cars ;)

I am right there with you on the weather cleaning up. When that happens, we will be able to get some runs in also. Don't forget, I have been queitly waiting for greatness to happen :)

Uh, I have a garage full of 10 and 11 second cars? lol. You mean our development Stinger hasn't run 11s yet? Yes that fairly obvious from the 12.1s dragy slip posted. But the potential is there and most importantly we're further improving the JB4 mapping in ways that customers will appreciate.
 
Justification of my dragy times

As I said before, I'm not interested in being the dragy policy. My post above referenced the numbers on your slip. If you'd prefer people reference another slip then use that one instead in your list. It matters little to me. Tork was the one making the exaggerated comparison in the first place.

As to dragy slope it's definitely +- a couple feet, but my track is always very consistent. I can start my runs so it's always -0.99 slope if that is what we're all going to do.
 
This shit just got good guys let’s keep the thread going lol ......I am patiently waiting for the winter to be done to get my Intercooler and see if by next summer the JB4 has updated to get my awd into the 11’s if not I am going ecu tune .....I am still very confused on the differences between ecu tune and piggyback (JB4) ... ecu tune seems better performing ... am I missing something ??
 
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This shit just got good guys let’s keep the thread going lol ......I am patiently waiting for the winter to be done to get my Intercooler and see if by next summer the JB4 has updated to get my awd into the 11’s if not I am going ecu tune .....I am still very confused on the differences between ecu tune and piggyback (JB4) ... ecu tune seems better performing ... am I missing something ??

Merry Christmas

Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.

Piggyback vs ECU tunes--Pros and Cons
 
Uh, I have a garage full of 10 and 11 second cars? lol. You mean our development Stinger hasn't run 11s yet? Yes that fairly obvious from the 12.1s dragy slip posted. But the potential is there and most importantly we're further improving the JB4 mapping in ways that customers will appreciate.
Well, 12.1 is not an 11 second Stinger :)
 
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As I said before, I'm not interested in being the dragy policy. My post above referenced the numbers on your slip. If you'd prefer people reference another slip then use that one instead in your list. It matters little to me. Tork was the one making the exaggerated comparison in the first place.

As to dragy slope it's definitely +- a couple feet, but my track is always very consistent. I can start my runs so it's always -0.99 slope if that is what we're all going to do.
I am the one with two 11 second Stingers, mind you one of them ran 11's 4 or 5 months ago? And I am exaggerating results? B...b....bwha, ha, ha, ha.
 
This shit is like going to a ford dealer and asking a mustang salesman what he thinks about the new Cameron lol what do you think he will say ??? I leave it up to your imagination .... what is everyone real un biased opinion is ecu Tunning better than piggyback ?? That’s the real question from the experience I had on the past ecu Tunning is better than piggyback ...
 
Thanks for this all I got from this thread is pretty much Terry saying his opinion and putting the JB4 as the best option .... then race chip came with a great comeback ... and tork didn’t even get in the discussion.... so this does not help much but the fact the Terry states he has the best product in the market no real un biased opinion lol ....

I would say, results will speak for us, but someone keeps pointing out how 12.1 is so close to 11.8 :)
 
Thanks for this all I got from this thread is pretty much Terry saying his opinion and putting the JB4 as the best option .... then race chip came with a great comeback ... and tork didn’t even get in the discussion.... so this does not help much but the fact the Terry states he has the best product in the market no real un biased opinion lol ....

Did you even look at the link? Tork goes into great detail about the differences.

Try reading it again? Lets talk tuning, piggy back vs ECU flash.
 
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I would say, results will speak for us, but someone keeps pointing out how 12.1 is so close to 11.8 :)
Well I have to say a couple things before I go to bed ....The day tork likes one of my comments and the day where I agree with one of tork comments happens simultaneously you know some shit is going on lol ..... all jokes aside I agree with tork .... results speak for themselves... men lie , women lie , numbers don’t lie .....this is my un biased opinion FYI I own a JB4 and love the product ....
 
Well I have to say a couple things before I go to bed ....The day tork likes one of my comments and the day where I agree with one of tork comments happens simultaneously you know some shit is going on lol ..... all jokes aside I agree with tork .... results speak for themselves... men lie , women lie , numbers don’t lie .....this is my un biased opinion FYI I own a JB4 and love the product ....
Shit... world ending stuff happening here ;)
 
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You are going to lose credability if you try to minimize your .18 gap using dragy slope when you know its not accurate. Its very possible your run had more slope than mine LOL. Plus your run goes up hill and then down at the end which you said gives rwds more traction at launch and elevated trap speeds.
Here is my slope test run for my new track that can read from .35 to .99. But we have already been through all this.
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This was the old track that you said was invalid due to a dragy bug which is also BS. I believe dragy is considering a new feature/ algo but with the amount of elevation error they have they will prob never implement it.
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Ok have this buggy dragy slope thing figured out. Dragy just gets some delayed altitude readings and sometimes really delayed. My 11.95 run was -.35 slope like my slowmo test run showed. After the 1/4 mile the road does slant so a delayed reading, like going 120 rather than 60, would read more slope.
And here is the extreme example. This was less than 1% slope spot I've run a few times. But i drove down a steep hill 20 seconds prior and got this.Screenshot_2018-11-10-07-33-53.webp

Bottom line valid is valid invalid is invalid and don't whine about slope when someone beats your time cause slope often isnt accurate. Go make a faster run.
 
Ok have this buggy dragy slope thing figured out. Dragy just gets some delayed altitude readings and sometimes really delayed. My 11.95 run was -.35 slope like my slowmo test run showed. After the 1/4 mile the road does slant so a delayed reading, like going 120 rather than 60, would read more slope.
And here is the extreme example. This was less than 1% slope spot I've run a few times. But i drove down a steep hill 20 seconds prior and got this.View attachment 15760

Bottom line valid is valid invalid is invalid and don't whine about slope when someone beats your time cause slope often isnt accurate. Go make a faster run.
Because, we are not going to quit trying to go faster :)

Do I even bother with the E30 comments at this point ;)
 
Bottom line valid is valid invalid is invalid and don't whine about slope when someone beats your time cause slope often isnt accurate. Go make a
faster run.

Ultimately we all modify our cars largely for the thrill of racing them. So it doesn't really matter much to me what your slope or dragy slip says. Hopefully this platform develops to the point that we eventually get decent turn outs at side by side races, like many of the other platforms we work with, as that is ultimately where grudges are settled.

Well I have to say a couple things before I go to bed ....The day tork likes one of my comments and the day where I agree with one of tork comments happens simultaneously you know some shit is going on lol ..... all jokes aside I agree with tork .... results speak for themselves... men lie , women lie , numbers don’t lie .....this is my un biased opinion FYI I own a JB4 and love the product ....

I more or less sum up the various tuning options here: Piggyback vs ECU tunes--Pros and Cons

And you're wrong about "numbers don't lie", because those numbers are dependent on facts provided by people, who often do lie. It's easy to add extra modifications and not mention them when promoting times, run more aggressive tuning than the log you're sharing shows (or even not post a log at all like Tork), game the slopes, run more octane or E85 than you are letting on, go out and race your car in 30F weather or negative DA and not disclose it, etc... Back in the day one shady tuner who held the "pump gas" tuning record on a specific platform was caught using fuel bladders to hide race gas. Another was caught taking out seats at the track and not disclosing it. At the end of the day numbers are largely based on the credibility of those providing them.
 
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Ultimately we all modify our cars largely for the thrill of racing them. So it doesn't really matter much to me what your slope or dragy slip says. Hopefully this platform develops to the point that we eventually get decent turn outs at side by side races, like many of the other platforms we work with, as that is ultimately where grudges are settled.



I more or less sum up the various tuning options here: Piggyback vs ECU tunes--Pros and Cons

And you're wrong about "numbers don't lie", because those numbers are dependent on facts provided by people, who often do lie. It's easy to add extra modifications and not mention them when promoting times, run more aggressive tuning than the log you're sharing shows (or even not post a log at all like Tork), game the slopes, run more octane or E85 than you are letting on, go out and race your car in 30F weather or negative DA and not disclose it, etc... Back in the day one shady tuner who held the "pump gas" tuning record on a specific platform was caught using fuel bladders to hide race gas. Another was caught taking out seats at the track and not disclosing it. At the end of the day numbers are largely based on the credibility of those providing them.
Sir I agree ....numbers can be manipulated to ones advantage althought it is very hard to prove that at this point ....
 
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Ultimately we all modify our cars largely for the thrill of racing them. So it doesn't really matter much to me what your slope or dragy slip says. Hopefully this platform develops to the point that we eventually get decent turn outs at side by side races, like many of the other platforms we work with, as that is ultimately where grudges are settled.



I more or less sum up the various tuning options here: Piggyback vs ECU tunes--Pros and Cons

And you're wrong about "numbers don't lie", because those numbers are dependent on facts provided by people, who often do lie. It's easy to add extra modifications and not mention them when promoting times, run more aggressive tuning than the log you're sharing shows (or even not post a log at all like Tork), game the slopes, run more octane or E85 than you are letting on, go out and race your car in 30F weather or negative DA and not disclose it, etc... Back in the day one shady tuner who held the "pump gas" tuning record on a specific platform was caught using fuel bladders to hide race gas. Another was caught taking out seats at the track and not disclosing it. At the end of the day numbers are largely based on the credibility of those providing them.
Hmm, I hear some frustration in your comments. Terry, you introduced Dragy to this community, we took you on your word, and now??? We have to verify octane levels DA correction, air temps, and what next... a video of us at the gas station filling up and a shot of the interior of the car, lol. I didn't hear anyone in the community complaining about any of this when you got on here posting your logs and Dragy results :)

I am going to address this with you one timex and one time only. I choose to not share log information. I will not be harrassed or insulted by you because I choose not to share my logs. I am sure you will say something about transparency or some other BS about being reputable. I have my reasons, and if you have a problem with that, then you will have to buy a tune, and log it yourself.
 
This shit is like going to a ford dealer and asking a mustang salesman what he thinks about the new Cameron lol what do you think he will say ??? I leave it up to your imagination .... what is everyone real un biased opinion is ecu Tunning better than piggyback ?? That’s the real question from the experience I had on the past ecu Tunning is better than piggyback ...
That is the purpose of this thread, to showcase mods and see how fast they go. My hope is to get all Stingers faster and kick some camaro, mustang and hemi ass!
 
Sir I agree ....numbers can be manipulated to ones advantage althought it is very hard to prove that at this point ....
The problem being Angel, Terry is the master of casting doubt about his competition, yet everyone should just take him for his word? And we would do that because why? Terry is excellent at implying something without ever actually saying it. This whole thread, filled with innuendo.
 
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