Bad paint micro blue gt

[MerlintheMad]

@SKStinger:

(Interesting glitch note: your quote of my post shows that somehow today's post picked up the first part of last night's post; I have no idea what I am looking at; I just now edited it from the original but you can see it clearly in your quote of my post. First time I've ever seen that happen. Hmm!?)

 

[eljay]

I hadn't really looked at this thread early on because of the "micro blue" title, but I just went out to put something in the car and DANG, I've got the bubbles, too, on the rear passenger interior doors on my Snow White Pearl, Nov 17 build. Only a few, which feel rubbery. The front doors look fine. I'll check other areas when it's light tomorrow.

I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to have a paint shop I've dealt with before, and that I trust, do an assessment of what's going on before I show this to Kia. Probably better to go in knowing what's actually wrong. After the way they botched painting my roof molding, I'm not thinking I want my dealer's shop to do any serious paint work on my car going forward.

 

[SKStinger]

After thoroughly inspecting the few that I have and applying clear coat to them, I'm pretty confident they're paint runs / collections and not the paint actually lifting or blistering. It appears as though the paint ran and pooled in a few spots as these are either on the side of the door or the bottom which would be prime places for paint to collect. I'll be checking them after each wash but I'm not overly concerned at this time.

 

[MerlintheMad]

After thoroughly inspecting the few that I have and applying clear coat to them, I'm pretty confident they're paint runs / collections and not the paint actually lifting or blistering. It appears as though the paint ran and pooled in a few spots as these are either on the side of the door or the bottom which would be prime places for paint to collect. I'll be checking them after each wash but I'm not overly concerned at this time.

The clincher to this theory is an inspection of brand new MY19s on the lot. I've done this before with the MY18 paint issues, notably the headlight assembly rub on the bumper. I'm sure they will let me see a few doors, enough to determine either that the MY19s have better painting processes, i.e. few to none paint runs, or c. the same as we are seeing on our MY18s. If there are few to none, then we still have a question about what exactly the "blisters" are: and that question won't be resolved until a year from now, when MY19s "blister" months after their arrival. Or, they don't manifest "blisters", proving that the MY19 painting process is better than the MY18, eliminating the paint runs/collections. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[DiabloStinger]

Paint 'running' might be possible but is highly unlikely on a mass scale and in the same spots on cars manufactured at different times. I see no evidence of a run in the paint. The evidence points to some other unknown influence.

 

[Revvdmedia]

Hard to say what it is. I don't see evidence of the "run," assuming paint must adhere to gravity and the panels are sprayed while hung vertically. The idea of water or a contaminant causing the bubble isn't something I'm fully convinced of either. At least on my car, the bubbles are softer than the "good" paint, but still somewhat hard. I would expect something getting behind the paint would make it feel very spongy. But some say it is growing...peculiar indeed.

 

[DiabloStinger]

I will know soon what they want to do... just awaiting a callback from a KIA rep

 

[DiabloStinger]

So... Kia rep was awesome. Determining next steps, but the option to give them back the car in lieu of a repaint was brought up TO me, not FROM me. I should have another update within a week or so.

 

[Revvdmedia]

So... Kia rep was awesome. Determining next steps, but the option to give them back the car in lieu of a repaint was brought up TO me, not FROM me. I should have another update within a week or so.

Was your only paint issue the bubbling in the doors, or do you have other paint issues as well?

 

[DiabloStinger]

I also have an issue on the front edge of the hatch... at the back of the roof. Paint is coming off there.

 

[Revvdmedia]

Ok, makes sense. I was just curious since I plan to have my paint issues fully documented including the bubbling. If my paint doesn't get any worse than it is, I'll leave it be, but was just curious if buyout was going to be an option for bubbling. Honestly, I'd prefer buyout over repaint given the option and similar financial situation. Not saying I want to get rid of the car, just good to know what options may present themselves. I don't intend to have the car in for service until March anyway (based on current mileage), so I won't know anything til then. Right now it's not worth my time to take it in for documentation unless something gets worse.

 

[DiabloStinger]

I really love the color of my car... and it isn't available in the 2019 MY. However, it also scares the heck out of me that paint issues are showing up in the weirdest places. Kia has never had this issue or anything similar in the past, so i'm sure it will get resolved eventually.

At the end of the day, if I am presented with a repaint option or a turn-in option, it would go bye-bye.

 

[MerlintheMad]

"Bubbling": that is not what is happening to all the cars except the OP's. He says that one or two blisters got bigger then burst when the door closed; and that there was wet stuff that came out of the burst blister. So far, his is the only case of blisters getting bigger then bursting. So, yet another panicked Stinger owner with a rare or singular "event". But I am confident that the rest of us panicking on this thread are needlessly doing so.

I know this because I've just returned from checking out four MY19 Stingers (two Red and two Ceramic Silver). That's sixteen doors. Most of the MY19 door inside edges look terrific. Kia has probably firmed up their painting process on the Stinger's doors as their assembly processes are refined. That is what the evidence says. There was ONE lower corner with puddling, like one of my doors has, and a pic above shows in one of the posts. Or rather, puddling of that amount; there was a second lower corner with some puddling but it was very minor. A few "bubbles" were in evidence, but not as many on any of the cars as on my GT1 MY18.

So Kia sprays the inside of the door, either first or facing down. Obviously the outer surface is facing up when it is sprayed, to obtain even thickness across the door. Paint gathers at some points on the underside of some of the doors that get a bit more paint. The "bubbling" is actually excess paint that started to drip. The drips are in more or less consistent places when they show up at all. Most are very small. You can poke a thumbnail in them and leave a mark.

I noticed a detail about how thick the inside edges paint is: the bottom edge, and the lower half of the opened door edge (the main part of the door below the handle) has a strip of thick, soft, almost weather stripping type of material. It is painted, of course. The drips tend to gather off of these strips more than the upper inside edges of the doors (around the windows). And you can poke a thumbnail into these strips and leave a temporary indentation. This is easier to do on the brand new cars than on my MY18, which makes sense, since their paint is newer.

 

[zmanelite]

So is this with specific colors and years ??

 

[MerlintheMad]

So is this with specific colors and years ??

No. It's a brand new paint panic button, and so far all colors have "blisters" (actually, paint drips; where they don't show, it should be remembered. ). The only ones (or one) who should be worried are those with blisters that contain crud that comes out when the blister bursts. So far, only the OP.

 

[ShannonC]

According to my Dealer these so called blisters or paint runs have nothing to do with the actual paint. They are a legacy from the build process where panel edges have been rolled and bonded together with seam sealant. It's simply excess sealant that's been painted over.

 

[MerlintheMad]

That makes perfect sense. The sealant is no doubt some sort of silicone. Sounds like a better explanation than excess paint drips.

 

[Revvdmedia]

Yes that explanation makes sense. It also sheds some light as to the softness of those bumps compared to the surrounding paint.

 

[DiabloStinger]

While this might be true for some of those bumps, it doesn't explain mine. They are hollow and grow. Either way, I've never seen another vehicle with this on the edge of the doors. I personally checked every car the my wife, parents, and in laws own. While the edges aren't perfectly smooth there are zero bubbles in the paint.

I'm telling you this because everyone that saw mine at the dealer was pretty scared of them.

 

[Coast GT]

According to my Dealer these so called blisters or paint runs have nothing to do with the actual paint. They are a legacy from the build process where panel edges have been rolled and bonded together with seam sealant. It's simply excess sealant that's been painted over.

Have you got them on yours Shannon? Only asking because so far you’re the only Aussie to post. Was wondering if it’s an issue for us or just our North American friends. All the other posts are US or Canada