Stinger vs. Infiniti Q50 Redsport

As a current owner of a sportish 2015 KIA Forte Turbo, based off my limited exposure and experience with the Stinger, below are the following reasons why I am leaning towards the Q50. Don't get me wrong, the Stinger is a good car and a fresh breathe of air. However, as I tend to keep my cars forever, therefore I have a very stringent selection criteria and a very particular eye for vehicles.

I think the key thing here is you own a 2015 Forte and you have limited experience with the Stinger to make any judgements which are mostly opinions in things such as design and feel.

Primary Considerations,

*Interior Design (I'm not a fan of pop up displays and more importantly the stinger lacks a premium design. It just doesn't look plush, whereas the Q50 feels like you are cocooned in wrap-around luxury. The Stinger interior feels extremely cold and sterile by comparison)

This is your opinion, I feel the Stinger interior is better looking than the Q50. I am a fan of the Pop up display.

*Interior Quality (No comparison here - The Q50 interior is typical Japanese luxury which means high quality surfaces and a very comfortable and plush cabin that will age well and hold up incredibly well over time, in 10yrs time the Q50 interior will still look and feel nice, I can assure everyone here the same cannot be said for the Stinger)

I can assure you as a previous owner of a 2008 G35 which I bought new and sold a few months back that it had its fair share of abnormal wear especially the plastic parts that pealed like for example in the steering wheel. The dealer replaced it several times, only until the 2nd replacement were Infiniti was able to fix the defect. The Stinger is a new platform and on a completely different level as for an Ex. a 2015 Forte, I have no clue how you can assure us of such a thing especially 10yrs from now.

* Paint Quality (Stinger's paint job looks dull even in the showroom, and all the premature wear and tear the owners are experiencing with the paint reaffirms this view. There was a red stinger in the showroom and It just didn't gloss, sparkle and pop out like the way it should with a car of this class. Instead the paint gave the Stinger a very dull "plastic" look)

Paint quality issues on new cars is nothing new, the Stinger got so much attention because it was being heavily marketed and this issue was naturally brought into light. At least Kia did the right thing and immediately rectified the issues.

* Longevity (The Infiniti is a tried and proven formulae and the Japanese produce cars with the best drivetrains, engine and overall longevity and they're generally easy to work on)

This is nothing new, but that doesn't mean the new Korean cars are not good enough especially with the recent quality ratings they have been above average and inline with most of the Japanese brands. Japanese cars didn't start reliable from day one, they improved overtime, so has Kia and Hyundai who have improved extremely quickly.

*Age (The Q50 will age more gracefully inside and out than the Stinger)

How the hell do you know that? The Stinger design is very unique, more unique than the Q50 at least and has been awarded for that.

Below are my secondary considerations,

*Compromise (I have driven plenty of cars, and every time I compare the Camry/Accord to Optima/Sonata, or Forte/Elantra to Corolla/Civic the former brands always drive better, I'm talking about power delivery, overall road holdings and balance. I clearly feel with Koreans - the overall ride and handling are always too compromised, either it's too hard and sporty or too floaty. There is no balance, this may impress the reviewers who spend 2 hours with the car, but for someone who will be living with the cars for years to come, it's not good. It's the same with power, the Koreans have a tendancy to overrate their power and the delivery of power is not smooth like the way Japanese vehicles - i.e transmission, throttle calibration, shift points, power management etc etc)

The Stinger has definitely been underrated, and again we are comparing economy cars to the Stinger which has been purposely built to change the Kia mindset with people.
I think the key thing here is you own a 2015 Forte and you have limited experience with the Stinger to make any judgements which are mostly opinions in things such as design and feel.

I've driven the Stinger and having owned the Kia, to me the products look very good from the surface, but once owning them do you notice their short comings. For simplicity sake, they're not as well designed, engineered and optimised as the main Japanese brands.

This is your opinion, I feel the Stinger interior is better looking than the Q50. I am a fan of the Pop up display.

As humans, we like things in symmetrical designs, and the Infiniti interior is flush and symmetrically without any productrifng pieces. To me this is more luxurious.

I can assure you as a previous owner of a 2008 G35 which I bought new and sold a few months back that it had its fair share of abnormal wear especially the plastic parts that pealed like for example in the steering wheel. The dealer replaced it several times, only until the 2nd replacement were Infiniti was able to fix the defect. The Stinger is a new platform and on a completely different level as for an Ex. a 2015 Forte, I have no clue how you can assure us of such a thing especially 10yrs from now.


Virtually every Kia/Hyundai in the use market I've observed their interiors has worn out so much more than the equivalent mainstream Japanese brand vehicle
The Q50 interior is of much higher quality than the Stinger, no questions asked, not only that, but it's also more plush with higher quality materials used and the overall environment is more comfortable.



Paint quality issues on new cars is nothing new, the Stinger got so much attention because it was being heavily marketed and this issue was naturally brought into light. At least Kia did the right thing and immediately rectified the issues

It doesn't take much to see the amount of stone chip, cracking and other premature paint related issues the Stinger has succumbed to. Even without all these issues, I was not impressed by the paint quality of the Stinger in the showroom. AS mentioned the paint was dull and made the car look very plastic like.
As a matter of fact, even my Kia has a stone chips on its bonnet, and it's by far the newest car in the family, I was shocked when I saw the stone chips. Again - This would not be a problem if Kia used higher quality paint or paint procedure?

This is nothing new, but that doesn't mean the new Korean cars are not good enough especially with the recent quality ratings they have been above average and inline with most of the Japanese brands. Japanese cars didn't start reliable from day one, they improved overtime, so has Kia and Hyundai who have improved extremely quickly.

There is a big difference between "perceived quality" and actual quality/longevity etc. As mentioned Kia's look very nice on the surface, but they have many short comings that can only be experienced after ownership.


How the hell do you know that? The Stinger design is very unique, more unique than the Q50 at least and has been awarded for that.

Show me one Hyundai/Kia product that has aged well? There are none. All of them look okay when relased, but to me they age very quickly. Remember the Genesis Coupe aka G37 killer? Look at it today. Then you have the Camry killer aka Sonata (swoopy design) aged terrible and was a horrible car to begin with and so on.
Due to it's more soft and elegant lines, the Q50 will stand the test of time.
The Stinger is a busy and tacky design that will age quickly.


The Stinger has definitely been underrated, and again we are comparing economy cars to the Stinger which has been purposely built to change the Kia mindset with people.

The Q50 engine is derived of the GTR, which is a better design than the Kia. Besides Nissan has been making world class engines for decades. It should come as no surprise there.
Look at photos of the Q50 V6 engine and the Stinger V6 engine - notice how much over engineered the Q50 engine is.

 
He's probably out hunting for mini-vans to race.

Vroom vroom, The Stig don't mess around!

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BAWAAAAAA !! too funny !
 
I think the key thing here is you own a 2015 Forte and you have limited experience with the Stinger to make any judgements which are mostly opinions in things such as design and feel.

I've driven the Stinger and having owned the Kia, to me the products look very good from the surface, but once owning them do you notice their short comings. For simplicity sake, they're not as well designed, engineered and optimised as the main Japanese brands.

This is your opinion, I feel the Stinger interior is better looking than the Q50. I am a fan of the Pop up display.

As humans, we like things in symmetrical designs, and the Infiniti interior is flush and symmetrically without any productrifng pieces. To me this is more luxurious.

I can assure you as a previous owner of a 2008 G35 which I bought new and sold a few months back that it had its fair share of abnormal wear especially the plastic parts that pealed like for example in the steering wheel. The dealer replaced it several times, only until the 2nd replacement were Infiniti was able to fix the defect. The Stinger is a new platform and on a completely different level as for an Ex. a 2015 Forte, I have no clue how you can assure us of such a thing especially 10yrs from now.


Virtually every Kia/Hyundai in the use market I've observed their interiors has worn out so much more than the equivalent mainstream Japanese brand vehicle
The Q50 interior is of much higher quality than the Stinger, no questions asked, not only that, but it's also more plush with higher quality materials used and the overall environment is more comfortable.



Paint quality issues on new cars is nothing new, the Stinger got so much attention because it was being heavily marketed and this issue was naturally brought into light. At least Kia did the right thing and immediately rectified the issues

It doesn't take much to see the amount of stone chip, cracking and other premature paint related issues the Stinger has succumbed to. Even without all these issues, I was not impressed by the paint quality of the Stinger in the showroom. AS mentioned the paint was dull and made the car look very plastic like.
As a matter of fact, even my Kia has a stone chips on its bonnet, and it's by far the newest car in the family, I was shocked when I saw the stone chips. Again - This would not be a problem if Kia used higher quality paint or paint procedure?

This is nothing new, but that doesn't mean the new Korean cars are not good enough especially with the recent quality ratings they have been above average and inline with most of the Japanese brands. Japanese cars didn't start reliable from day one, they improved overtime, so has Kia and Hyundai who have improved extremely quickly.

There is a big difference between "perceived quality" and actual quality/longevity etc. As mentioned Kia's look very nice on the surface, but they have many short comings that can only be experienced after ownership.


How the hell do you know that? The Stinger design is very unique, more unique than the Q50 at least and has been awarded for that.

Show me one Hyundai/Kia product that has aged well? There are none. All of them look okay when relased, but to me they age very quickly. Remember the Genesis Coupe aka G37 killer? Look at it today. Then you have the Camry killer aka Sonata (swoopy design) aged terrible and was a horrible car to begin with and so on.
Due to it's more soft and elegant lines, the Q50 will stand the test of time.
The Stinger is a busy and tacky design that will age quickly.


The Stinger has definitely been underrated, and again we are comparing economy cars to the Stinger which has been purposely built to change the Kia mindset with people.

The Q50 engine is derived of the GTR, which is a better design than the Kia. Besides Nissan has been making world class engines for decades. It should come as no surprise there.
Look at photos of the Q50 V6 engine and the Stinger V6 engine - notice how much over engineered the Q50 engine is.
OK , now I'm putting you on IGNORE ................... guys stop feeding the TROLL !!
 
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Sounds like you’ve decided on the Q50RS due to Kias corner cutting & lack of engineering or optimising.
FWIW, we are on our 4th Kia now, wife had an 09 Koup for 8 years no problem, now has Cerato Sport Hatch for 1 year also no problem. I had a 13 Sportage Platinum 2.4l for 4.5years no problem, now have Stinger GT for 1 year, no problem, both our new cars still have 6 years warranty, cap price sevicing & roadside assistance left what does the Q50 offer?
As a former Holden/GM owner most of my adult life Kia quality & support runs rings around anything I ever experienced with Holden, oh that’s right where do they sit now in OZ with sales.
I trust you enjoy your well engineeried & optimised Datsun if you choose to go that route, good luck :thumbup:
The funny thing is that if it wasn't for my experience with Kia - I would have been going for the Stinger over the Q50.
Who mentioned Holden? And once again, Stinger owners have proved themselves as a very defensive and resort to offensive gestures and name calling. I don't see this aggression over at the Q50 forums.
 
I don't see this aggression over at the Q50 forums.

Go to the Infiniti forums and type "As an expert in sporty cars due to my current ownership of a Nissan Sentra I'm here to tell all Q50 owners why your car sucks" and report back here about their level of civility.
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
The funny thing is that if it wasn't for my experience with Kia - I would have been going for the Stinger over the Q50.
Who mentioned Holden? And once again, Stinger owners have proved themselves as a very defensive and resort to offensive gestures and name calling. I don't see this aggression over at the Q50 forums.
I mentioned Holden as once they were the number 1 brand in AU as an example of how the shift in brands is due to your comment of corner cutting, lack of engineering & optimisation. Buyers vote with their feet based on value for $$ & what’s on offer, Kia is moving up on the list of volume sales & overall reliability, hows Datsun sit currently on this list.
 
I mentioned Holden as once they were the number 1 brand in AU as an example of how the shift in brands is due to your comment of corner cutting, lack of engineering & optimisation. Buyers vote with their feet based on value for $$ & what’s on offer, Kia is moving up on the list of volume sales & overall reliability, hows Datsun sit currently on this list.
.................in need of a merger with Renault to survive , thats how they are doing ................the Japanese Board at "Datsun" freaked when they learned what Ghosn was up to and arrested him !
 
I don't see this aggression over at the Q50 forums.[/QUOTE]
Stating facts is not being aggressive, I find that comment offensive, I you don’t like the Kia brand & you favour Datsuns why are you here.
As Stinger owners we are all reasonably happy with our corner cut, under engineered & optimised cars so go & enjoy your Luxo Datsun on the Dato forum & leave us to wallow in our misfortune of buying a bucket of bolts, mind you it’s got 7 years unlimited kilometre warranty though...
 
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As i said dont go into a dog show dressed as a cat and start barking.

For the other members although we know better as we own a Stinger maybe back off on the agro. I think he gets the message.
If it doesnt stop i will lock the thread.
 
As i said dont go into a dog show dressed as a cat and start barking.

For the other members although we know better as we own a Stinger maybe back off on the agro. I think he gets the message.
If it doesnt stop i will lock the thread.
oh oh Barny Fife to the rescue ....................Barney-Fife.webp
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Maybe he had an-iffinity for the stinger after all?
 
Jeez, I can't believe this thread got dredged up again, from an apparently shallow grave. Anybody who goes to such lengths to present biased opinions as fact ('obviously') is just trying to light some fires. Leave the creature under the bridge alone, let it mutter to itself, and stop tossing scraps at it.

If it doesnt stop i will lock the thread.
:thumbup:
 
I like this comparison, but personally was looking at the stinger v q60 red sport as the design language is more aligned. To me, the q50 is bland - not as visually appealing as the q60.

I found the q60 Interior to be a bit boring, but cannot comment on quality (may be better than the stinger). The sealer was really the price as in AU, the q60 is a bit more expensive, else it would have been pretty close (alongside an rc350 f sport or second hand rcf).

Stinger v q50 - definitely stinger.
Stinger v q60 - down to personal taste, both are very attractive.

I'd say the g70 is a better competitor for the q50.
 
I think the key thing here is you own a 2015 Forte and you have limited experience with the Stinger to make any judgements which are mostly opinions in things such as design and feel.

I've driven the Stinger and having owned the Kia, to me the products look very good from the surface, but once owning them do you notice their short comings. For simplicity sake, they're not as well designed, engineered and optimised as the main Japanese brands.

This is your opinion, I feel the Stinger interior is better looking than the Q50. I am a fan of the Pop up display.

As humans, we like things in symmetrical designs, and the Infiniti interior is flush and symmetrically without any productrifng pieces. To me this is more luxurious.

I can assure you as a previous owner of a 2008 G35 which I bought new and sold a few months back that it had its fair share of abnormal wear especially the plastic parts that pealed like for example in the steering wheel. The dealer replaced it several times, only until the 2nd replacement were Infiniti was able to fix the defect. The Stinger is a new platform and on a completely different level as for an Ex. a 2015 Forte, I have no clue how you can assure us of such a thing especially 10yrs from now.


Virtually every Kia/Hyundai in the use market I've observed their interiors has worn out so much more than the equivalent mainstream Japanese brand vehicle
The Q50 interior is of much higher quality than the Stinger, no questions asked, not only that, but it's also more plush with higher quality materials used and the overall environment is more comfortable.



Paint quality issues on new cars is nothing new, the Stinger got so much attention because it was being heavily marketed and this issue was naturally brought into light. At least Kia did the right thing and immediately rectified the issues

It doesn't take much to see the amount of stone chip, cracking and other premature paint related issues the Stinger has succumbed to. Even without all these issues, I was not impressed by the paint quality of the Stinger in the showroom. AS mentioned the paint was dull and made the car look very plastic like.
As a matter of fact, even my Kia has a stone chips on its bonnet, and it's by far the newest car in the family, I was shocked when I saw the stone chips. Again - This would not be a problem if Kia used higher quality paint or paint procedure?

This is nothing new, but that doesn't mean the new Korean cars are not good enough especially with the recent quality ratings they have been above average and inline with most of the Japanese brands. Japanese cars didn't start reliable from day one, they improved overtime, so has Kia and Hyundai who have improved extremely quickly.

There is a big difference between "perceived quality" and actual quality/longevity etc. As mentioned Kia's look very nice on the surface, but they have many short comings that can only be experienced after ownership.


How the hell do you know that? The Stinger design is very unique, more unique than the Q50 at least and has been awarded for that.

Show me one Hyundai/Kia product that has aged well? There are none. All of them look okay when relased, but to me they age very quickly. Remember the Genesis Coupe aka G37 killer? Look at it today. Then you have the Camry killer aka Sonata (swoopy design) aged terrible and was a horrible car to begin with and so on.
Due to it's more soft and elegant lines, the Q50 will stand the test of time.
The Stinger is a busy and tacky design that will age quickly.


The Stinger has definitely been underrated, and again we are comparing economy cars to the Stinger which has been purposely built to change the Kia mindset with people.

The Q50 engine is derived of the GTR, which is a better design than the Kia. Besides Nissan has been making world class engines for decades. It should come as no surprise there.
Look at photos of the Q50 V6 engine and the Stinger V6 engine - notice how much over engineered the Q50 engine is.
Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present the Kia Stinger Defence Force...
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Could be....lol
 
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here's a new T shirt design for consideration .............................

troll.webp
 
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Wow!! Just stumbled upon this thread. Read it all cover to cover. Man, was that both painful and funny at the same time hahaha! It really makes you wonder what those 2 dudes were REALLY trying to accomplish with these numerous messages. I personnally test drove thw Q50 sport (not the Red Sport) since the RS was more than 125$/mont more than the Stinger. The steering feels numb, the engine sounds good, but very light. The handling is sub par compare to the Stinger. My only complaint, before going to the Infinity dealer, was the interior, which I did not liked at all. I ended up discarding the Q50 very quickly. I've been driving my Stinger for 2 weeks, now, and I'm extremely satisfied with it! I was with my good friend (who owns a 2018 BMW 340i xdrive w/M performance pack), last saturday, and we went for a ride in each other's car. He couldn't believe how good the car looked, feel, handled, accelerates. He even texted me the next morning to tell me exactly this. (Gotta say, the exhaust on his car is UN-BE-LIEVABLE!! The SOUND it makes is so exhilarating!! Surprisingly, the steering feel isn't very enjoyable, but the power band is very linear and strong).

Our Stinger's are a very serious product and people will slowly start to understand it. I was an Audi fan-boy (yeah...sorry...), having only driven Audi's for the past 11 years, but this car litterally blew me away in every way shape or form. Clearly made the right choice, disregarding the badge and digging a little deeper.
 
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Wow!! Just stumbled upon this thread. Read it all cover to cover. Man, was that both painful and funny at the same time hahaha! It really makes you wonder what those 2 dudes were REALLY trying to accomplish with these numerous messages. I personnally test drove thw Q50 sport (not the Red Sport) since the RS was more than 125$/mont more than the Stinger. The steering feels numb, the engine sounds good, but very light. The handling is sub par compare to the Stinger. My only complaint, before going to the Infinity dealer, was the interior, which I did not liked at all. I ended up discarding the Q50 very quickly. I've been driving my Stinger for 2 weeks, now, and I'm extremely satisfied with it! I was with my good friend (who owns a 2018 BMW 340i xdrive w/M performance pack), last saturday, and we went for a ride in each other's car. He couldn't believe how good the car looked, feel, handled, accelerates. He even texted me the next morning to tell me exactly this. (Gotta say, the exhaust on his car is UN-BE-LIEVABLE!! The SOUND it makes is so exhilarating!! Surprisingly, the steering feel isn't very enjoyable, but the power band is very linear and strong).

Our Stinger's are a very serious product and people will slowly start to understand it. I was an Audi fan-boy (yeah...sorry...), having only driven Audi's for the past 11 years, but this car litterally blew me away in every way shape or form. Clearly made the right choice, disregarding the badge and digging a little deeper.

Amen, JP. I posted up there somewhere - before all the pants-pooping - that I had my mind made-up to buy the Q50 Sport. But once I drove the Stinger GT2 - put it in Sport and opened the taps - I was blown-away. It was like dating the head cheerleader then being hit-on by Raquel Welch (sorry, showed my age there!) Never thought about the cheerleader.... ah...Q50, again.
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
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