What performance mods first.

[me&stinger]

Yep those are the ones. I have Stillen intakes on my Stinger. But intakes in general (especially on a turbo car) are a must...
do it...

Is this the Stillen intake you have?

 

[Intelliburn]

Is this the Stillen intake you have?

Yes

 

[me&stinger]

Yes

Not bad...Not bad at all.

 

[luter200]

If I had to go with one I would do option #3. The stock exhaust on this car is extremely restrictive. People are picking up 30hp just from muffler deletes on this car which means the exhaust is the most restrictive component. The JB4 + plugs will get any stock car 50hp out of the box. Thats on any option. After that you need some downpipes, and intakes.

 

[Toddasaurus]

Incorrect.
Only doing the primary DP will increase the power by way more than doing anything else to the exhaust. I almost dynoed 500whp with a stock exhaust and only primary DPs.

EDIT: Nevermind I thought you were talking about the primary downpipes.

Yeah, sorry, I should have clarified that I didn't mean the primary downpipes. I'm one of the ones that think that the Primary DP's are probably the biggest restriction in the entire exhaust.

 

[Mo-mo]

So the K8Stingerstore just started their black Friday sale. I am looking to get my first few significant mods. I have narrowed it to a few options. My car is mostly stock. I have a Micro Blue GT2 AWD and a few visual mods.

1. Cold Air Intake+JB4/Bluetooth+plugs ~500+619+150=$1269
2. MBRP+Cold Air Intake 594+~500=$1094
3. MBRP+JB4/Bluetooth+plugs 594+619+150=$1363
4. Ark Grip Exhaust - $1600

There is a massive difference in price between MBRP and Ark Grip and not sure if that price difference is worth it for Ark over MBRP. I just find it difficult to judge any sound from exhausts from youtube videos.

I also have to take in to consideration my skills and my situation to being able to either put these mods on myself or paying someone to do it. The exhausts I will have to pay someone to do as I don't have a lift and it would be annoying doing it with a couple of ramps. The intake+JB4 is something I could manage on my own, however the spark plug swap does NOT look fun.

I will eventually be getting all these mods just looking for what I buy first during the black Friday sale.

Does anyone have any opinions to weigh in? I just want someone else to help nudge me in a certain direction.

If I recall BMS has a deal for JB4 with the bluetooth, intake, catch can and spark plugs with a few extra goodies for around 1200 USD

 

[rpoffen]

If I recall BMS has a deal for JB4 with the bluetooth, intake, catch can and spark plugs with a few extra goodies for around 1200 USD

Yeah, they call it the 450HP package.

450 Wheel Horsepower 3.3L KIA Stinger / Genesis G70 Package

Transform your Kia Stinger / Hyundai Genesis into a 450hp beast with our simple bolt-on package! Save $191.49 or more when you purchase this package.

burgertuning.com

 

[AdrianG]

While the JB4 is useful, a proper ECU tune is superior. Intakes sound great, a must if you like the sound. Doing plugs is a given. Oil catch can is a good idea, as well.

 

[rpoffen]

While the JB4 is useful, a proper ECU tune is superior. Intakes sound great, a must if you like the sound. Doing plugs is a given. Oil catch can is a good idea, as well.

I would say that a JB4 is way more than just useful. In fact, it is a great starting point for someone just getting into the modification game.
I started with a JB4 and plugs and have slowly moved up the ladder.
I now have EWG wires, TCU, E30, intercooler and lately WMI. This was a great learning experience on just what is possible at every stage.
I see many users with an ECU tune also have a JB4, for some, it might be for the WMI control, or other reasons.
My main issue with an ECU only tune is the necessity to run the fuel it is tuned for, whether it be 93, E30, E50, etc. At least with JB4 as the primary tune, you can adjust maps to suit the fuel you have available, especially for a daily driver.
I know that Sxth element now has a device (Ek1) with ECU tuning options that let you reflash the ECU, but it still isn't like switching maps on the fly, and you have to pay for each tune separately in addition to the device.
I admit that if your ultimate goal is hard core performance, you will likely end up with an ECU tune, but a JB4 can still be part of that picture.

 

[ChaneRZ]

Started with JB4 here and now has ecu tune. I still use the JB4 for telemetry and logging. Ordered a tune that uses 93 octane and above or E30 mix. I can use map6 to decrease ecu boost if my octane is 87. Lol JK.

 

[AdrianG]

I would say that a JB4 is way more than just useful. In fact, it is a great starting point for someone just getting into the modification game.

I reckon our uses of the term is simply semantics, in this case. That said, I don't disagree that it's a good starting point. I started with the JB4, still have it on for logs and CPI in the future. I did run into frequent overboost conditions when running the JB4, even with the EWG wires and adjustments, though.
Tuned ECUs will adjust somewhat automatically, mine is tuned for 91 as that is the most typical fuel here, but occasionally run E30 and the ECU certainly seems to be able to tell the difference, would it be quite as good as an ECU tuned for the higher octanes as they are available? No, not likely, but it doesn't matter that much, in my opinion.

 

[rpoffen]

I reckon our uses of the term is simply semantics, in this case. That said, I don't disagree that it's a good starting point. I started with the JB4, still have it on for logs and CPI in the future. I did run into frequent overboost conditions when running the JB4, even with the EWG wires and adjustments, though.

Sems the 2022+ had a tendency to overboost, even stock ones have had this condition. I am surprised that people with stock 2022's that do overboost don't press Kia to figure out the problem.
Thanks for clarifying your opinion.

 

[rpoffen]

Tuned ECUs will adjust somewhat automatically, mine is tuned for 91 as that is the most typical fuel here, but occasionally run E30 and the ECU certainly seems to be able to tell the difference, would it be quite as good as an ECU tuned for the higher octanes as they are available? No, not likely, but it doesn't matter that much, in my opinion.

A JB4 is also useful when going the tuned ECU route since it can give very detailed logs to the tuner in case there are issues.

 

[AdrianG]

A JB4 is also useful when going the tuned ECU route since it can give very detailed logs to the tuner in case there are issues.

Definitely. That's what I used it for after putting in the Lozic ECU. Fortunately for me, he said the logs look perfect so I didn't have to deal with sending anything back for revision. I'll definitely use it again for logs in the future, though. TCU is next.

 

[Mo-mo]

I like em just fine. They have been good for me. I’ve got big mouth snorkels that feed right into em. Love it.

I've been eyeballing those odd looking snorkel things. Any idea what the numbers are for power gains?