Stinger dyno showing JB4, intake, CPI, and BEF gains!

[Terry@BMS]

Finally got around to making some content with one of our new salvaged Stingers! Shows power levels at different stages including JB4 only, intake, CPI, and finally adding in our BEF and testing different timing levels.

 

[Danny5]

Great video guys! You have me pumped for starting some real mods on my 19 RWD GT1. Unfortunately, only 91 here in Phoenix

I am going to be watching this build closely, and really appreciate you taking time to test the latest ideas along the way.

Now take my subscription

 

[Terry@BMS]

Great video guys! You have me pumped for starting some real mods on my 19 RWD GT1. Unfortunately, only 91 here in Phoenix

I am going to be watching this build closely, and really appreciate you taking time to test the latest ideas along the way.

Now take my subscription

For some reason it didn't make it to the video but map2 did around 395whp on 91 without the fuel wires attached. Prob 410whp with fuel wires on. And there is lots of E85 in AZ to mix in!

 

[STINGER]

This looks exciting

This is a great opportunity to make a true turbo bolt-on setup, not just turbos, but the whole setup.

 

[Thomby]

I skimmed through the video before bed, and caught 800whp and single turbo...while I understand the production numbers for our cars make it hard to justify heavy R&D, I really wish it was manifolds for twin turbo upgrades. G25-550s?

 

[7thSonEngineering]

@Terry@BMS

One thing to note while doing this build is that the cast turbo manifolds are cast stainless steel. This is significant because they can be welded easily vs cast iron manifolds that require preheating and post weld slow cooling.

What I am saying is that you have the option to cut the manifolds and weld vband clamps directly to them. I think this would speed up your build considerably.

I am very interested in the single turbo idea. This link provided references my turbo manifold research.

Thread '3.3t manifold research'

Oct 26, 2024

I purchased a 3.3tt turbo manifold to research the possibility of "Porting" the inside to allow for more flow and less back pressure. My thoughts are that this would benefit oem turbos and Stuffed turbo users.

My initial findings are that the manifold is...

-Cast stainless steel
- Has very thick walls

From my research cast stainless steel is very easy to weld. I of course tried to weld it and I was successful with my first attempt. My next objective is to flow test the oem manifold and then cut it in a strategic spot so that I am able to take a die grinder to it and widen the choke...

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[Thomby]

This link provided references my turbo manifold research.

Speaking of which, any update on the manifold/wastegate porting? Would love to see a dyno with them installed, and the same done to the "ported" TK700s:

2018-2022 Kia Stinger 3.3TT TK700 Stage 3 Ball Bearing Hybrid Turbos | TurboKits

Elevate your driving experience with 2018-2022 Kia Stinger 3.3TT TK700 Stage 3 Ball Bearing Hybrid Turbos. Take your driving to new heights!

www.turbokits.com

 

[7thSonEngineering]

Speaking of which, any update on the manifold/wastegate porting? Would love to see a dyno with them installed, and the same done to the "ported" TK700s:

2018-2022 Kia Stinger 3.3TT TK700 Stage 3 Ball Bearing Hybrid Turbos | TurboKits

Elevate your driving experience with 2018-2022 Kia Stinger 3.3TT TK700 Stage 3 Ball Bearing Hybrid Turbos. Take your driving to new heights!

www.turbokits.com

No updates.I have 1 pair of manifolds ready to be ported and shipped. I have no plans to install them on my car for a few months. Until I get dyno results myself I don’t think anyone would be interested in them.

 

[Danny5]

For some reason it didn't make it to the video but map2 did around 395whp on 91 without the fuel wires attached. Prob 410whp with fuel wires on. And there is lots of E85 in AZ to mix in!

This would be pretty darn perfect for what I am looking for.

E85 is not something I am interested in. I've road tripped my car to Las Vegas, Southern California, and the Bay Area. I don't relish the idea of knowing my potential is being limited by lack of ethanol

 

[Plakchup]

Hell yeah this is awesome!

About to get the jb4 + ewg wires soon. Seeing those results with map 2 on 91 octane without fuel wires has me excited. I too do not want to mess with e85 mixing either. That's exactly all I want to do and keep it on safer side of things, taking advantage of my supporting mods + prevent overboost.

That's a great amount of power to add and should wake up the car nicely. Just seeing those results from intakes only is pretty nice!

 

[Thomby]

E85 is not something I am interested in. I've road tripped my car to Las Vegas, Southern California, and the Bay Area. I don't relish the idea of knowing my potential is being limited by lack of ethanol

If you live somewhere with E85 access, there's really no downside. When you go on a road trip and E85 isn't available, you just drop from Map 3/4/5 to Map 2 (either in the app, or via the windshield wiper stalk) and fill up on premium like normal. When you get back, add 5gal or whatever and you're back to E30.

Day to day for partial fillups, just add 1.25ish gal E85 per quarter tank (so 2.5 if you're at half tank, 3.75 if you're down to a quarter full) and you'll maintain the ratio without having to empty your tank or do any math.

About to get the jb4 + ewg wires soon.

JB4 + fuel wires is probably a better way to start, then EWGs if you have overboost issues or really want to dial in your boost ramp-up. Intercepting the O2 sensors lets the JB4 better control how rich/lean you are and gets you a bit more power up top.

 

[Plakchup]

If you live somewhere with E85 access, there's really no downside. When you go on a road trip and E85 isn't available, you just drop from Map 3/4/5 to Map 2 (either in the app, or via the windshield wiper stalk) and fill up on premium like normal. When you get back, add 5gal or whatever and you're back to E30.

Day to day for partial fillups, just add 1.25ish gal E85 per quarter tank (so 2.5 if you're at half tank, 3.75 if you're down to a quarter full) and you'll maintain the ratio without having to empty your tank or do any math.


JB4 + fuel wires is probably a better way to start, then EWGs if you have overboost issues or really want to dial in your boost ramp-up. Intercepting the O2 sensors lets the JB4 better control how rich/lean you are and gets you a bit more power up top.

That's good to know. I will get the fuel wires as well then! Thanks

 

[oddball]

EWG wires are not much of a benefit until you're in Map 3 and starting to push the boundaries of E30 mixes.
Fuel wires, however, are very beneficial on every map.

 

[Plakchup]

Good info! Always eager to learn from those that done it. Thanks