Start living with stop/start technology - Stinger Manual Pages 4-101 & 5-101

[moinmoin]

It can be annoying to some drivers, but the feature is being found on more and more cars each year
If you’re driving a stop/start equipped unit and just haven’t learned to love it, just add one more small step – punch the defeat button.

Rising to the top of many drivers’ most-hated-technology list is the automatic stop/start feature, showing up on a lot of new vehicles these days.

This system uses a series of sensors and a decidedly more robust starter-motor. Any time a vehicle equipped with this system comes to a stop after fully warming up and recharging the battery, the engine will stop and will restart after the driver releases the brake pedal to get back in motion. They are installed in vehicles with both automatic and manual transmissions.

A small, usually green-coloured icon will appear on the instrument panel during these stops to let the driver know that no malfunction occurred and the engine didn’t just stall out. The thinking behind this idea was to improve fuel mileage and lower emissions by reducing the amount of unnecessary idle time. No engine, however advanced, has an emission control system that operates at idle. And unless you spend an inordinate amount of time in stop and start traffic with prolonged stops, the fuel economy improvements are seldom, if ever realized. Read more...

 

[B Sharp]

It can be annoying to some drivers, but the feature is being found on more and more cars each year
If you’re driving a stop/start equipped unit and just haven’t learned to love it, just add one more small step – punch the defeat button.

Read more: http://driving.ca/auto-news/news/start-living-with-stopstart-technology

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Wow- no Deep Chroma Blue in the US and a stop/start switch. This is going downhill.......

Thanks for the heads up.

I have these in rentals when traveling and they can be maddening. All to “meet” the fleet mileage thresholds.

 

[Charly]

I rented an auto stop/start Renault. While it didn't work atrociously, losing air conditioning while stopped at a light is not something I'm willing to put up with.

 

[CoconutRob]

Is this feature on the stinger?

 

[Taimaishoo]

I believe it will be abled to be disabled. Though, like traction control, etc, probably will have to be disabled every time you start the engine. Not a deal breaker, but, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

 

[Kia Stinger]

It IS kind of annoying and I haven't felt a car yet where it was seamless. And I don't like how the air conditioning can sometimes run out of cool air while waiting at a long light. But - at least you can turn it off. You can't turn it off on the Buick LaCrosse (that I know of) - and I imagine it'll be the same on the Regal...

 

[Charly]

The Renault I drove was a manual so I just left it in gear at lights since it wouldn't shut off the engine with the clutch depressed. That's a lousy solution and it's getting hard to find a manual, especially on a Stinger.

 

[moinmoin]

Here are the pages 4-101 & 5-101 through 5-104 from the US 2018 OWNER'S MANUAL
Please note that it states "Your vehicle may be equipped with the ISG system ..."
(ISG = Idle Stop & Go). Also note page 102 -" The engine will restart when... ":

 

[Chris]

Maybe some manufacturers do it better than others I had a Chevy rental car in Hawaii with auto start stop. It was actually pretty intelligent and wouldn't shut off the engine if it needed it for the AC.

 

[Kia Stinger]

Maybe some manufacturers do it better than others I had a Chevy rental car in Hawaii with auto start stop. It was actually pretty intelligent and wouldn't shut off the engine if it needed it for the AC.

Yeah, that IS the case. What BMW does it turns the engine back on if the cabin gets passed a certain temperature. However, you can definitely feel a difference in the flow of cool air when the engine turns off. It's not too bad in a BMW...

 

[davebo]

If the button to disable it is right there by the shifter then I'd actually like the option to use it. I've lived in the same county my whole life so I know when I'm going to be sitting at a stop light for two minutes that's timed in such a way that when it's green I'm just going to end up at another red light in 30 seconds, so it'll come in handy, and I can turn it off when I'm actually somewhere fun to drive.

 

[Jenny Wang]

If the button to disable it is right there by the shifter then I'd actually like the option to use it. I've lived in the same county my whole life so I know when I'm going to be sitting at a stop light for two minutes that's timed in such a way that when it's green I'm just going to end up at another red light in 30 seconds, so it'll come in handy, and I can turn it off when I'm actually somewhere fun to drive.

It's nice to have the option if you want it. It does safe fuel. I forget which car I drove that had this feature a few years ago and it was really annoying. I've tried it in a couple other more recently and it's not as bad. They're getting much better.

 

[CoconutRob]

So is this feature on when the city mpg is calculated

 

[davebo]

So is this feature on when the city mpg is calculated

I'm assuming yes, but I'm also assuming it doesn't make much difference. I'll wager the EPA city test hasn't caught up to newer technologies like start/stop and probably doesn't include much idling at lights, just stopping and going.

 

[Chris]

I'm assuming yes, but I'm also assuming it doesn't make much difference. I'll wager the EPA city test hasn't caught up to newer technologies like start/stop and probably doesn't include much idling at lights, just stopping and going.

I've heard the stop/start makes about 1 mpg different on the city test. By the way electric steering Also adds about 1 mpg to the highway test

EPA standard city test:

 

[Charly]

Maybe some manufacturers do it better than others I had a Chevy rental car in Hawaii with auto start stop. It was actually pretty intelligent and wouldn't shut off the engine if it needed it for the AC.

Sounds like Chevy could bestow some pearls of wisdom on Renault.

 

[BahamaTodd]

It IS kind of annoying and I haven't felt a car yet where it was seamless. And I don't like how the air conditioning can sometimes run out of cool air while waiting at a long light. But - at least you can turn it off. You can't turn it off on the Buick LaCrosse (that I know of) - and I imagine it'll be the same on the Regal...

The Regal will not include the option to turn start/stop off. Even though the Insignia and Commodore have the option.

 

[Kia Stinger]

The Regal will not include the option to turn start/stop off. Even though the Insignia and Commodore have the option.

FAIL. That is all I can say about that. I won't even put my customary three dots after my sentence. THAT is how bad a fail it is.