Seeking Advice.

[TeeWadeG]

Sorry for the long post guys. I just dont have anyone to talk to and need some help.

In the market for a new car and the 3 that made the cut are
2021 GLI
2022 Stinger GT-Line
Sonata N-Line/K5 GT

I am so torn. The GLI and GT-Line are my clear cut top picks but they are tough to find.

Meanwhile N-Line and K5s are everywhere and easy to go put hands on

I drive for a living and I am on pace to drive 78k miles. Hundreds of miles a day. At least 2 days a week I am gone all day and the car hardly turns off.

The Stinger is my first choice but I am curious about gas mileage.

The GLI is severely underrated by the EPA, at least for the driving I do. I can easily get 40+mpg on 87 octane @ 75mph.

I feel the new GT-Line could be underrated as well based on what I see foe the much heavier G80.

I drove the GT-Line but just didn’t have time to MPG any feed back would be great.

Them killing off the Stinger worries me too.

I haven’t Driven the Sonata or K5 yet but they are much easier to find.

any comparison between Sonata/K5 and the new GT-Line?

Any more advice? Am I going about this the right way? Am I overthinking the Stinger ?

Thank you to everyone in advance.

 

[Ric 'Ochet]

Rear drive vs front drive.
Price is also going to be a variable between the K5/Stinger imo. As for killing off the car I don’t put any value on something if it can’t be sourced. The info is one person making a claim and everyone else speculating what’s next.
If it gets killed, Kia is still in business and the 3.3 is in more than just the Stinger (as is the 2.5 now). Gas mileage on highway I’m getting 27 in Eco on my 3.3. Have to believe you get over 30+ in the GT Line.

Coming from an Optima SXL I looked at the K5, was impressed, but still went with the Stinger:
It’s different.
It stands alone in the Kia lineup.
I’ve owned over 30 cars and the Stinger is my favorite..

 

[TeeWadeG]

Rear drive vs front drive.
Price is also going to be a variable between the K5/Stinger imo. As for killing off the car I don’t put any value on something if it can’t be sourced. The info is one person making a claim and everyone else speculating what’s next.
If it gets killed, Kia is still in business and the 3.3 is in more than just the Stinger (as is the 2.5 now). Gas mileage on highway I’m getting 27 in Eco on my 3.3. Have to believe you get over 30+ in the GT Line.

Coming from an Optima SXL I looked at the K5, was impressed, but still went with the Stinger:
It’s different.
It stands alone in the Kia lineup.
I’ve owned over 30 cars and the Stinger is my favorite..

If I didn’t go with the Stinger it would be my first FWD car since high school.

But I was impressed with the GLI which I cannot believe my fingers are even typing that out. And the windows I carry with me everyday actually fit 10x better in the GLI.

I have a line on a GT1 but now we are taking about $11k a year in gas vs. $4k-$6k.

Am I going to be good on 87 octane with the new GT-Line?


p.s. the only reason I am even considering the Sonata and K5 is the 2.5 and the convenience of finding them.

 

[Ric 'Ochet]

If I didn’t go with the Stinger it would be my first FWD car since high school.

But I was impressed with the GLI which I cannot believe my fingers are even typing that out. And the windows I carry with me everyday actually fit 10x better in the GLI.

I have a line on a GT1 but now we are taking about $11k a year in gas vs. $4k-$6k.

Am I going to be good on 87 octane with the new GT-Line?

If the Windows fit in the GLI they should most definitely in the stinger. People putting 65” TVs in the back of that thing!
As for the gas I can’t speak with any certainty, but I believe the 2.5 on the Stinger GTline still calls for premium gas, there are guys on here that drive their 3.3 on pump 87 so… lol

 

[RedCal]

I'll throw a few other things to consider
Insurance - with very high mileage is there any major savings between the three?
and what are your plans for the car, do you plan on keeping it for 4-5 years or drive it till it dies?
as for fuel ...while running lower octane can work, it can cause higher consumption, possibly erasing any savings so that makes it hard to answer. Your driving habits can have a bigger impact.

EDIT - what one can you spend hours sitting in? no matter how nice the outside, if you can't tolerate sitting in it for hours on end. it won't matter

 

[MerlintheMad]

Howdy. Test the 2.5L Stinger and let us know what you think. 87 octane works; it's just not as efficient or performance optimizing: most driving we will not notice any difference.

Hatch, RWD bias, looks, comfort. And the cancelation is an oft-repeated rumor. Kia has said nothing to confirm or deny (all the jabber is free advertising).

 

[RM7]

Been watching my '22 GT-line mileage. Got 34 last weekend, ~200 mile trip, stop-and-go part of the way, lots of speeding up and slowing down. The "highway" is generally one lane, with passing lanes occassionally, so that's where you speed up and slow down. That's with my 255 square tires and mud-guards. I don't go into Eco, just "smart". It's on par with my old BMW 4-series GC. If it's less efficient ,it's only by 1-2mpg.

 

[RM7]

Am I going to be good on 87 octane with the new GT-Line?

Read the manual and do what it recommends IMO. The 2.5 is "tuned up" pretty good stock. A WRX STI only has 290lb/ft of torque and this car has 311. I know *that* manual says don't put less than 91 in the car. The compression ratio (taking into account the turbo charged air) is obviously pretty high. These cars like and use high octane fuel to provide performance and not have to pull back timing to avoid knock. The hotter your environment, the more this becomes an issue.

 

[RM7]

Also, if the K5 can be had with the 1.6L turbo, that engine does not require premium, it was intentionally designed to not require it and provide rated power on regular. It's around 200hp in it's higher tune levels (like in the EGTN-line). That is probably where your max efficiency would be. If you tune it however, you should probably go back to premium for the safety.

 

[DekCan]

I had the old 2.0 model Stinger and at times I put 87 in it. As for the MPG if you're highway driving it's better than city. If you're worried about gas I would go for the K5.

 

[TeeWadeG]

Also, if the K5 can be had with the 1.6L turbo, that engine does not require premium, it was intentionally designed to not require it and provide rated power on regular. It's around 200hp in it's higher tune levels (like in the EGTN-line). That is probably where your max efficiency would be. If you tune it however, you should probably go back to premium for the safety.

If the Windows fit in the GLI they should most definitely in the stinger. People putting 65” TVs in the back of that thing!
As for the gas I can’t speak with any certainty, but I believe the 2.5 on the Stinger GTline still calls for premium gas, there are guys on here that drive their 3.3 on pump 87 so… lol

I know man it sounds crazy but it is true. I could not believe it either. It really pissed me off tbh.

The windows fit much better in the GLI than they do in the Stinger. I was shocked.

I had heard guys joking saying VW measured wrong for their trunk size. Well they did.

My M37 has a bigger trunk if you look at specs and my window damn near fits as bad in it as the Stinger.

In the Stinger I can not lay my primary window long ways with out putting the back seats down.

Even laying it sideways in the Stinger I have to force it down. Like force it force it too.

the first time I drove the Stinger I didn’t think the window would fit even, that’s how hard it is to get back there.

but I was determined to make it work cuz I want the car so bad, so I went back the next day and I made it work but it took elbow grease. I was furious

 

[TeeWadeG]

I'll throw a few other things to consider
Insurance - with very high mileage is there any major savings between the three?
and what are your plans for the car, do you plan on keeping it for 4-5 years or drive it till it dies?
as for fuel ...while running lower octane can work, it can cause higher consumption, possibly erasing any savings so that makes it hard to answer. Your driving habits can have a bigger impact.

EDIT - what one can you spend hours sitting in? no matter how nice the outside, if you can't tolerate sitting in it for hours on end. it won't matter

Insurance will definitely be cheaper than anything else I have had the last 12 years but that is a very good point and something I am going to look into because this car will probably go to baby girl in a few a years.

That Edit you made RedCal I love that! You are exactly right man gah damn !

Some very good friends of mine are co workers and they are just like man just get a Camry, man just get that.

I let them know I wish it was like that for me but it’s not. I love driving. Not driving like going from A to B but the physics behind operating a motor vehicle.

and as much time as we spend in the car I need to love to drive it snd be in it.

There is a reason why every ones numbers get lower the further they get away from home. Mine get better!

I don’t dread waking up and seeing my 9am appointment is 2 hr and 45mins away.

it may sound crazy to some but loving to drive my car and the inside to be a nice place to be keeps me mentally

REAL QUICK


I just want to thank all of you really. This is what I mean when I said I just need some people to talk to who think like me and care about these things so thank you everyone who

 

[TeeWadeG]

Howdy. Test the 2.5L Stinger and let us know what you think. 87 octane works; it's just not as efficient or performance optimizing: most driving we will not notice any difference.

Hatch, RWD bias, looks, comfort. And the cancelation is an oft-repeated rumor. Kia has said nothing to confirm or deny (all the jabber is free advertising).

that was my plan to do 100-150 mile test. I already got the dealership blessing.

They know how meticulous I am and they know the other guys let me.

 

[TeeWadeG]

Also, if the K5 can be had with the 1.6L turbo, that engine does not require premium, it was intentionally designed to not require it and provide rated power on regular. It's around 200hp in it's higher tune levels (like in the EGTN-line). That is probably where your max efficiency would be. If you tune it however, you should probably go back to premium for the safety.

That would be the better choice no doubt.

but I am coming 467rwhp and I have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[TeeWadeG]

Been watching my '22 GT-line mileage. Got 34 last weekend, ~200 mile trip, stop-and-go part of the way, lots of speeding up and slowing down. The "highway" is generally one lane, with passing lanes occassionally, so that's where you speed up and slow down. That's with my 255 square tires and mud-guards. I don't go into Eco, just "smart". It's on par with my old BMW 4-series GC. If it's less efficient ,it's only by 1-2mpg.

I was curious. I saw a guy test the G80 AWD which is a lot heavier and he got a little under 31mpg I believe.

but then I saw the same guy test the Sonata N-Line and he got 35

GT-Line besting EPA numbers was just wishful thinking I guess.

 

[TeeWadeG]

KIA PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH!!!!!

I CAN NOT EVEN BELIEVE I AM TYPING THIS RIGHT NOW BUT THE STINGER JUST MOVED DOWN THE LIST.

I JUST SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR IN AN N-LINE AND I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE K5/N-LINE GET THE DCT AND THE STINGER DONT.

THE DCT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR ME.

I MEAN DONT GET ME WRONG I THINK MOST PEOPLE WONT NOTICE BUT FOR ME, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

I DROVE THE STINGER LAST SATURDAY AND COULD STILL TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STANDARD 8 AND THE DCT WTF KIA!!!!