PPI Help! Buying Modded used 2018 Stinger With 38K miles and front end damage for $37k

[hwhorf]

Hey All!

I fond this stinger on CARFAX (link below). I notice right away the turbo air intake filters and the KIA badge was replaced. No pictures underneath the car. I am concerned if this car had mapping or break boost tuning and I am not sure how to check since you can just remove the JB4. Re-mapping and frequent boosting can cause excessive ware so that is why I am concerned. How do you check this? I contacted the dealership about these items and said they are "inquiring." It has 38,687 miles and it is listed for $36,487. Do you think this is a fair price given the likelihood this car has been modified? If not, what is a fair price? $34k? $33k? The used car market is crazy right now so I expect the price is inflated.

How do I find Kia Stinger Experts? Should I trust the dealership for a PPI or should I find a stinger expert? Where do Stinger experts exist?

carfax*/Used-2018-Kia-Stinger-GT2_x42743

Thanks!

 

[ChaneRZ]

Meh. I’d pass.

 

[StingertimeNC]

Pass! Too expensive for a 2018 IMO. I'm no used car expert though. I bought a 2019 gt2 for 42.5k in January of 2020. I just can't see that price for a car that could be almost 4 years old.

 

[hwhorf]

Pass! Too expensive for a 2018 IMO. I'm no used car expert though. I bought a 2019 gt2 for 42.5k in January of 2020. I just can't see that price for a car that could be almost 4 years old.

Oh nice! How many miles when you bought it? Are you noticing any issues after 100k miles?

 

[StingertimeNC]

I bought it brand new. Only 5k miles on it after a year and a half. LOL. Holding up great. Heading for my second oil change this week.

 

[ChaneRZ]

I don’t think anyone has gone 100k yet…

 

[RM7]

You've identified some red flags and your gut is probably right that it's been mapped. Not guaranteed, but the mileage at which it's being sold tends to correspond with the mileage when lots of things need to be replaced or serviced, brake pads, rotors, transmission, tires, battery, etc. This was always the catch 22 with BMW's "3 year full service" thing, during the 3 years, you were unlikely to need any of these major things, but turn over 3 years or 36 and all of a sudden all these things were due.

It would be good to inspect the exhaust, look for cat deletes, non OEM exhaust/downpipe. A dead give away for a turbo car is an aftermarket turbo-back exhaust. Not so much for axle-back exhaust loundeners, those do nothing to the power or for tuning. Intakes on turbo cars don't really do much and aren't needed for tunes unless you've replaced the turbos with much higher flow units. A lot of people do intakes with Stage 1 or 2 tunes, but in a lot of cases they are just for aesthetic purposes. Most of them will bypass OEM sound silencers and make your engine seem more powerful by increasing the noise. The stock units usually handle those lower tunes (no new turbos) just fine. In my subaru, the short ram intake let the BOV "be heard". An aftermarket BOV wasn't really needed for the sound effect, only if you were needing to hold much higher turbo pressure, again from a bigger turbo.

 

[RM7]

Also, most modern cars WILL show that they've been mapped if the dealer knows how to check the ECU. Removing the JB4 doesn't erase the ECU. There many companies that claim it "won't show up", but talking to dealer techs, it seems almost everything does show up and it requires extraordinary trickery to make the sensor logs not show this. There's too many parameters that modern cars sense and record for the performance of the engine.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I don’t think anyone has gone 100k yet…

One has, and that was months ago: some commuting freak of nature: I wish I could remember who of us it was.

 

[MerlintheMad]

exhaust loundeners

I like that word, even though I think the "correct" extemporaneous word would/should be "louderners". Loudeners rolls off the tongue better though.

 

[Random386]

Pass! Too expensive for a 2018 IMO. I'm no used car expert though. I bought a 2019 gt2 for 42.5k in January of 2020. I just can't see that price for a car that could be almost 4 years old.

2019 gt2 with 10k miles for around 37kish in 2020.

Op that deal is garbage if it's been reverted to stock. Unless the vehicle has carbon fiber parts everywhere or upgraded twin turbos which are in good condition I would never even think about buying it.

Look nation wide, a few thousand miles isn't that big of deal when buying a car.

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

don't buy it

 

[monusa]

You can almost get a newer loaded GT2 with lot less miles for that.....walk and keep looking. I know the market is really stupid now, better deals can be found with a little work.

 

[rpoffen]

I bought my 2019 GT2 AWD with 25K miles back in December 2020 for less than that.

 

[SIMONGUEY]

bruh I bought my car in the middle of March... I've added 12,000 miles already

 

[jthrelf]

bruh I bought my car in the middle of March... I've added 12,000 miles already

What the hell have you been up to? Commuting cross country?

 

[SIMONGUEY]

What the hell have you been up to? Commuting cross country?

YES! bay area to riverside lol. its like 600-700 miles one way

 

[ChaneRZ]

Dang! Every week?!

 

[monusa]

Dang! Every week?!

It's called: FEMALE

 

[Deviate]

Not all cars are garage queens. I put 4 to 500 a week.