New Owner, Need mod advice

[Jaxh4x]

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I have had my new 2022 Panthera Metal GT2 for a couple weeks now. I have been looking into doing some simple cosmetic mods, a coold air intake and adding an occ.

My first question is, do 2021 engine mods such as cold air kits fit the 2022 model?

Second question, are there any significant body changes besides the tail lights from 2021 to 2022?

And third question is what occ and cold air intake should I get?

I have seen a lot of people saying certain intakes will hurt the performance. At this time i want to keep everything else stock and I hate the idea of hurting my car's performance just because an intake looks or sounds better.

Any guidance is appreciated.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Howdy and welcome. No actual body changes in all model years: the Premium and Base 2.0L trims went away (they had minor body differences from the GT trims). The same holds for engines: anything that will fit or suit is applicable across all model years. I have no idea which mods you should get. My drivetrain is bone stock.

 

[JSolo]

Before jumping into the deep end, drive the car. Put a few thousand miles on. Things that need to be changed will become apparent.

 

[hummus]

Getting familiar with your car before making modification choices--especially for performance--is sound advice.

For protective things you can jump into, I would look into a dash cam, side vent mesh, mud flaps, and possibly paint protection.

OCC would fall into this category as well. There are many differing opinions and views on this, ranging from "don't bother" to "buy xyz model." Plenty of this is right here on this forum, and of course other communities as well. It should be fun research.

The general guidelines I would suggest is: focus on the functionality of the car and a can that doesn't cause restriction, then on the effectiveness of the can, and also how serviceable the can is. Pay as little attention as possible to cosmetics, IMO. Take your time to understand why modern engines can benefit from a can in the first place, how cans work, and pros and cons.

I personally am skeptical when it comes to aftermarket intakes. If it's cold air you're after, I don't think you'll do much better than OEM. If you want to improve the temperature of your intake charge, there is probably more to be gained with an upgraded intercooler.

 

[Daniel @ K8 Stinger Store]

Hey Jaxh4x,

Welcome to the Stinger forum and congrats on your '22.

A lot of the common mods will fit the 2022 Kia Stinger models.

If you look at the product pages on our website like Injen for example they will have a Vehicle Applications section.

This will allow you to ensure that the parts you are purchasing will in fact fit the year, make, and model Kia Stinger that you own.

Feel free to reach out at any time if you ever have any questions, need suggestions, or if you would like to receive a discount on your order.

Enjoy your new ride,
Daniel @ the K8 Stinger Store​

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Before jumping into the deep end, drive the car. Put a few thousand miles on. Things that need to be changed will become apparent.

That was what happened to me. Bought too many mods and ended up selling half of it after all.

 

[JSolo]

I didn't mod my last car excessively. Just a handful of mods for functional reasons. These were done after 1-2K miles.

1) louder exhaust (invida q300). Being an mt, it was hard to tell when on the throttle with the stock. I didn't want something that would wake up the whole neighborhood, just a mild increase in volume.
2) eibach sways - keep the car flatter during hard cornering

This arrangement lasted me well until I sold the car 8 years later. New owner took it 10 steps further, dropped it, different wheels, intake, tune, and some other mods I can't remember.

 

[General_Vodka]

I almost have every power bolt on mod sold except a few. Would ever go back to stock? Unlikely. There are tons of threads on here about oil catch cans and intakes. Like others have said the fitment should still work. It's not like you have a 3.5, it's still the same engine.

 

[Jaxh4x]

I almost have every power bolt on mod sold except a few. Would ever go back to stock? Unlikely. There are tons of threads on here about oil catch cans and intakes. Like others have said the fitment should still work. It's not like you have a 3.5, it's still the same engine.

Well, I think I'm gonna go the bms route and get the intake and zero maintenance occ. We have a good cold season where i'm at and i wouldn't want to deal with constantly being worried about my daily driver's occ freezing up.

Now I'm wondering if the zero maintenance oil drainage back into the pan is harmful or would alter my 6k full synthetic oil changes. I can't find a clear answer.

I'm also wondering how the intake will alter the acceleration profile on the car.

 

[General_Vodka]

Well, I think I'm gonna go the bms route and get the intake and zero maintenance occ. We have a good cold season where i'm at and i wouldn't want to deal with constantly being worried about my daily driver's occ freezing up.

Now I'm wondering if the zero maintenance oil drainage back into the pan is harmful or would alter my 6k full synthetic oil changes. I can't find a clear answer.

I'm also wondering how the intake will alter the acceleration profile on the car.

I wouldn't recommend the zero maint catch can. Get a normal one and just have a drain at the bottom with a hand valve to get rid of the oil during the cold. I did an oil analysis and there are a bunch of stuff in the catch can oil that I would not want in my engine oil. Like fuel, water and copper. As for the intake, it's a turbo car so all your doing is letting more air get to the turbos faster and easier. I don't think that you will lose much. Except maybe to heat soak but that's what a turbo car does.

 

[hummus]

I wouldn't recommend the zero maint catch can. Get a normal one and just have a drain at the bottom with a hand valve to get rid of the oil during the cold. I did an oil analysis and there are a bunch of stuff in the catch can oil that I would not want in my engine oil. Like fuel, water and copper. As for the intake, it's a turbo car so all your doing is letting more air get to the turbos faster and easier. I don't think that you will lose much. Except maybe to heat soak but that's what a turbo car does.

Another vote for the traditional style catch can with a removable cup.

I personally prefer to remove the cup over using a drain for two reasons: drains can have a tendency to weep on these things, and sometimes the accumulation can include gelatinous globs in it that won't make it through the drain and can even clog it. I have seen some YT creators use a zip tie to poke up the drain and unclog it, but by the time you wrangle everything out, you could have just removed the cup. I do make it a point to keep the O-ring lubed.

This is an interesting (if lengthy) watch on intakes:

 

[Jaxh4x]

Another vote for the traditional style catch can with a removable cup.

I personally prefer to remove the cup over using a drain for two reasons: drains can have a tendency to weep on these things, and sometimes the accumulation can include gelatinous globs in it that won't make it through the drain and can even clog it. I have seen some YT creators use a zip tie to poke up the drain and unclog it, but by the time you wrangle everything out, you could have just removed the cup. I do make it a point to keep the O-ring lubed.

This is an interesting (if lengthy) watch on intakes:

Which catch can for the stinger do you suggest?

 

[hummus]

Which catch can for the stinger do you suggest?

I realize that you probably want a straight answer to this, but I think it would be a disservice to just pick one for you, in the same way I wouldn't tell a new parent which brand of {x product} is best for their baby. Catch cans are one of the least understood yet popular modifications in my opinion, and since the welfare of your car is at stake, it's best you make an informed decision based on what benefits you're shooting for and what risks you are willing to accept.

I would suggest researching carefully to decide whether you want to add a catch can or not at all, and then from there researching what features are the most important to you. I don't suggest adding it just because others are non-specifically saying "it's a good idea." Like any other modification, adding one can be either good or bad for your situation.

There is plenty of discussion on the board. Here is a recent thread:

Catch Can options..what’s best for the Stinger?

Ok. So I’ve been researching this and my head is spinning. Assuming I’m keeping my car for a long time I’m looking to add a catch can. I’ve run through multiple posts regarding blow by and which cans actually seem to do a better job. I’ve seen the options available through our vendor...

stingerforum.org

 

[Jaxh4x]

Thanks for the link. I have done a good of amount of research and determined i want one because I intend to keep this vehicle as long as it runs well. Cheers!

 

[Jaxh4x]

I changed my mind and want the mishimoto can, could you help me out?

 

[hummus]

I changed my mind and want the mishimoto can, could you help me out?

Not sure if this was directed at me, and if so, not sure what help you might be looking for. My quick take on the Mishimoto Stinger kit: it looks nice (in case that matters), has a large user base, elegant and solid looking mount, and nice hoses. My concerns would be possible impedance in the PCV line, as I mentioned in that thread earlier in this post: Catch Can options..what’s best for the Stinger?

In the video I linked there, or possibly in the comments, the creator mentioned that he believes Mishimoto compact cans are identical to some of the generically branded ones on Amazon. I had some of those. They did catch oil, but there were quality issues about 10 months to a year in: finish coming off of internals and rusting hardware.

I will say that even if the branded Mishimoto and the generics are identical (and I kind of hope they aren't), there still is value in a plug-and-play solution versus the universal ones. Making your own mount and plumbing solutions can get expensive quickly if you try to make one as nice looking as the direct fit kits.

Finally, if I wanted a can with a sintered bronze filter like the Mishimoto has, I would take a close look at the SXTH element one as well. It also has a bronze filter, but one with a larger surface area that should help with longer service between cleanings and possibly flow. The hoses aren't as nice though. They also have a dual can kit if that interests you.

 

[General_Vodka]

I personally run the dual sxth cans. My hoses I wrapped in back and red hose protector so the install looks pretty decent.