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[Kafinater]

I'd never heard of a Stinger, but when I saw it on the forecourt in a second hand forecourt called "Too Good To Auction" I had to buy it. Yes, it is just the 2.0 litre version but in all seriousness, this has a good bit of power which makes me and my passengers smile. Also, I have taken one or two 2.0 litre cars on a race track with tuition from racing drivers I realise that with the right training you can push a 2.0 litre to a limit I didn't think was possible. I do have a question but I'll look through the forums for an answer first.

 

[Kia Stinger]

I'd never heard of a Stinger, but when I saw it on the forecourt in a second hand forecourt called "Too Good To Auction" I had to buy it. Yes, it is just the 2.0 litre version but in all seriousness, this has a good bit of power which makes me and my passengers smile. Also, I have taken one or two 2.0 litre cars on a race track with tuition from racing drivers I realise that with the right training you can push a 2.0 litre to a limit I didn't think was possible. I do have a question but I'll look through the forums for an answer first.

Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. Congratulations on your Stinger! How long have you had it and what did the Stinger replace for you? I’m glad you found us.

 

[Brendan @ K8 Stinger Store]

Hey @Kafinater,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your Stinger!

Are you planning on modifying your Stinger at all?

 

[Snicklefritz]

Any tracking with a 2.0L questions will interest @Volfy. What you said about getting the most out of a 2.0L could have been written by him.

 

[Volfy]

Welcome to Stinger Land.

The 2.0T isn't a slow engine. My local SCCA region is full of Elantra N and Veloster N, duking it out with Type-Rs, Golf Rs, and the rest. Issue is the lower HP-to-weight ratio when dropped into a substantially larger and heavier chassis like the Stinger. Here in North America, we have lots of open highways that don't see a turn in miles, so a lot of drivers lost the appetite for good handling and over-emphasize on HP and torque. This is why traditional American muscle cars have humongous V8 engines that go really fast in a straight line but can't turn worth a hoot.

Elsewhere in the world sees it differently. Old countries are full of narrow meandering roads that favor handling prowess over raw HP. This is why European cars tended to be smaller and handle far better than American land yards.

So yeah, don't read too much into online chatter about the 2.slow dominated by us North Americans. Stinger/G70 chassis is quite good and, when properly set up, can handle like a proper GT car. 2.0T simply means it's a momentum car that doesn't have gobs of excess HP to make poor drivers look better than they really are.

As with any car, regardless of engine size, high performance driving is about challenging the driver to push themselves to broaden their own limit. The car is just a tool.

 

[G-163599]

Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. Congratulations on your Stinger! How long have you had it and what did the Stinger replace for you? I’m glad you found us.

I've had my Stinger for a year and it replaced an old VW Touareg, 3.0litre V6 £600 road tax!!!

 

[RedCal]

Welcome to the hive!

 

[JSolo]

Too bad there is no twist of the wrist for the auto world . What would it be titled; push of the throttle? Just doesn't sound as good.

I read the above book (vol 1) cover to cover multiple times, trying to absorb the material then apply it in real life. It works.

 

[Volfy]

Too bad there is no twist of the wrist for the auto world . What would it be titled; push of the throttle? Just doesn't sound as good.

I read the above book (vol 1) cover to cover multiple times, trying to absorb the material then apply it in real life. It works.

No kidding. I've got both volumes and his companion DVDs.

Actually, a lot of the same principles apply to cars. Keith Code's $10 bill worth of traction to spend on braking, accelerating or cornering apply directly to HP driving. I've heard it described in HPDE classes as an imaginary "slinky" connection between throttle and steering wheel - feed in one ONLY when you start to relax the other. Same as between brake pedal and steering wheel.

Another one is "looking ahead (down the road/track)". You cannot set up properly for the next section of road/track, unless you look ahead and know what's coming. Related to this is "look where you want to go, and the bike/car will follow". Target fixation is just as detrimental to speed/safety on 4 wheels as it is on 2... except maybe the consequences might potentially be much more dire on a bike.

But I agree with you on the value of having a Keith Code equivalent for the automotive world. The difference though, is that the cost of entry to HP driving events is much lower. For motorcycles, track days nowadays start at around $200-$250. Then there is the cost of basic protective gear. Most events require full leathers, which isn't cheap. I scored a deal on a set of $1250 Alpinestar 1-piece leather years ago for about $750 on clearance, but it's still a big chunk of change. Then there are boots, gloves, and Snell helmet, etc., depending on what you might (or might not) already have for road riding. All this assumes you already have a sportbike, or at least somewhat sporty enough bike for the track.

With a car, most AutoX costs $35-40/event, and a helmet is the only gear you need. Many organizers offer loaner helmets, so it might be $0 additional cost. While a nice sports or sporty car would be great, you can just about run any 4wheeler. Rare, but I've seen trucks run, even minivans. So for very little cash outlay, you can start chirping tires and pushing limits... safely, away from the hazards of public roads.

 

[JSolo]

....safely, away from the hazards of public roads.

Like penske trucks that turn in front of you when going hwy speeds.

(In case the OP doesn't know what im talking about - Death almost became me today!@# )

 

[Volfy]

Like penske trucks that turn in front of you when going hwy speeds.

No kidding. That would have been even funnier if it wasn't so potentially deadly serious.

 

[Brendan @ K8 Stinger Store]

Reminds me of the time that I almost met my Maker as I was coming around a long left bend through Mulholland at a cruising speed. 85mph as the road allowed, however, I didn't factor the residential area in when setting pace. Right as I was cutting in for my apex an Amazon van appeared coming out of a driveway to the right, completely horizontal through the right-most gutter, my lane, and 3/4 of oncoming lane.

Left lane gutter and thankfully no oncoming traffic made for a very slow and quiet drive home, not to mention a new mental speed limit for that area...