Need sugestion about WMI/EWG

[NSHFXstinger]

Hi
Currently I am running JB4 Map 2 with Shell 91, AWD, Injen Intake
I am consider ARK downpipe(Mid pipe) @ black friday for more sound but not drone
But in the meanwhile my 0-60MPH is way slow and I am thinking increase some performance as well

Here is the quetion:
Will you guys remove WMI when you visit dealership? are they cool with that?(Canada)
Does WMI realy increase the HP/TQ? I only know is they decrease the IAT, then increase the boost level?Which one is easy instal and friendly for every day use? JB4, SNOW or LP3?
Also the same quetion with EWG, it cost less and seems a good add-on for 0-100 but I read others post about insteal, its harder to reach the postion so I am afraid it will become a lot work when I remove the JB4 and visit dealership.

 

[NSHFXstinger]

And my 0-60 times is 4.92. with LC.

 

[cncBilly]

Hi
Currently I am running JB4 Map 3 with Shell 91, AWD, Injen Intake
I am consider ARK downpipe(Mid pipe) @ black friday for more sound but not drone
But in the meanwhile my 0-60MPH is way slow and I am thinking increase some performance as well

Here is the quetion:
Will you guys remove WMI when you visit dealership? are they cool with that?(Canada)
Does WMI realy increase the HP/TQ? I only know is they decrease the IAT, then increase the boost level?
Also the same quetion with EWG, it cost less and seems a good add-on for 0-100 but I read others post about insteal, its harder to reach the postion so I am afraid it will become a lot work when I remove the JB4 and visit dealership.

Map 3 on Shell V 91 is probably not a good idea. I am also CDN and V 91 and Map 3 don’t play well together. When I go Map 3 I use E30. I would like to see one of your WOT logs using M3 and V 91.

 

[AWDGT2]

I agree with @cncBilly, map3 and 91? ouch.. Your car may run but I think your logs will show there are issues, especially if you haven't swapped plugs.
So, on to your question about WMI. I'll try and explain with as little typing as I can, you will have to do a bunch of research yourself.
1. WMI doesn't add power (per se)
2. WMI allows YOU to add power safely
3. WMI will cool IAT's and add octane via the nozzle
4 Cooler temps and more Oct. allows for a more aggressive Map
*The Burger Kit is your best bet. There is a MAP specifically made for WMI that is equal to or near Map5 but it's Progressive (Map7). What that means is it's always reading the AFR, Timing, Temps, IAT, and dozens of other metrics to get you the best performance safely.
Installation is not for the weak hearted but just about anyone can do it in an afternoon.
*As far as pulling stuff out for the dealer, well you have to gauge your own service manager. I personally pull my JB, and WMI... But I leave the intakes and FMIC. My manager himself has a Stinger and he's tickled that I put a few bolt-ons. He told me that if I blow a piston or turbo, more than likely an aftermarket intake filter would not cause that.
*EWG cables... Good addition but until you max out Map7 and get deep into the 11's and want to run faster, the EWG cables won't make a huge difference. (I would still put them on though, they do a good job at managing the duty cycle, a little better than factory)
*If you want a better 0-60, then do the brake snip!!
Meanwhile, I would get off Map3, go to Map1 with your 91 and mitigate hurting your motor.

 

[NSHFXstinger]

Map 3 on Shell V 91 is probably not a good idea. I am also CDN and V 91 and Map 3 don’t play well together. When I go Map 3 I use E30. I would like to see one of your WOT logs using M3 and V 91.

My wrong，its map 2！No E85 available within 1000km

 

[NSHFXstinger]

I agree with @cncBilly, map3 and 91? ouch.. Your car may run but I think your logs will show there are issues, especially if you haven't swapped plugs.
So, on to your question about WMI. I'll try and explain with as little typing as I can, you will have to do a bunch of research yourself.
1. WMI doesn't add power (per se)
2. WMI allows YOU to add power safely
3. WMI will cool IAT's and add octane via the nozzle
4 Cooler temps and more Oct. allows for a more aggressive Map
*The Burger Kit is your best bet. There is a MAP specifically made for WMI that is equal to or near Map5 but it's Progressive (Map7). What that means is it's always reading the AFR, Timing, Temps, IAT, and dozens of other metrics to get you the best performance safely.
Installation is not for the weak hearted but just about anyone can do it in an afternoon.
*As far as pulling stuff out for the dealer, well you have to gauge your own service manager. I personally pull my JB, and WMI... But I leave the intakes and FMIC. My manager himself has a Stinger and he's tickled that I put a few bolt-ons. He told me that if I blow a piston or turbo, more than likely an aftermarket intake filter would not cause that.
*EWG cables... Good addition but until you max out Map7 and get deep into the 11's and want to run faster, the EWG cables won't make a huge difference. (I would still put them on though, they do a good job at managing the duty cycle, a little better than factory)
*If you want a better 0-60, then do the brake snip!!
Meanwhile, I would get off Map3, go to Map1 with your 91 and mitigate hurting your motor.

Thanks for the replay, I made a mistake its Map 2 haha. Never try Map3 because there is no E85 around. I have Denso plugs. Thanks!
I have no idea how mod-friednly my dealership are, as far as I only have the intake when I show up I think its cool. But no idea with WMI.
How long it tooks you remove& re-instal WMI? Are you just remove the Engine Area and hide them in the cabin(also keep the tank in the back)
I have read the forum, there are too much about LC, E-break(Auto hold?),Brake snip(Switch)
I will go for Brake snip(Switch) but waiting for a better solution(I mean, like fuel wire, 1st generation solution is to geek lol Id like waiting a remote switch or looking more stable?There is winter in canada so Nothing will do untill 2021 April I guess).
Just wonder know, even using LC, 0-60mph@ 4.92 is still terrible. Here is my old post

my stinger 0-100 is slow

Hi guys, I wonder know anybody can help me figure out whats going on with My stinger 2019 Stinger AWD Limited, 1,7000KMS, Mod is JB4 with fuel wire, Denso 5346 IKH24,Injen intake, stock 19" tire and wheel, shell 91 This year I made a few try 0-100 test with a GPS APP stock: 5.35s in Apr JB4...

stingerforum.org

I attached log and Video in that post.

 

[AWDGT2]

I looked at your log from the last post. I agree with a few of them, that 91 you have probably isn't enough to Run Map2, your timing does not look good and it's tied to Fuel. I've seen better runs from a lower Map quite often, when you try to add boost and you don't have the fuel to support it, the car's performance will actually go down.
Removing the WMI from the engine compartment is easy, just a small box, tube and injector. I tuck everything else away and leave the tank. All the dealer does from my experience is hook up an ODBII cable, run a diagnostic, and it's done.

 

[Michael Polito]

Canada eh, Petro 94 (old Sunoco gold) or esso 93
Why are people hooked on shell lol

 

[cncBilly]

Canada eh, Petro 94 (old Sunoco gold) or esso 93
Why are people hooked on shell lol

Isn’t this such a fun conversation. Like a big loop from one bad tank to another or is it from one bad station to another. I don’t know it’s so confusing, buy yet in a perverse way.
I think switch or go E30 for a bit.

 

[Michael Polito]

Isn’t this such a fun conversation. Like a big loop from one bad tank to another or is it from one bad station to another. I don’t know it’s so confusing, buy yet in a perverse way.
I think switch or go E30 for a bit.

Billy there ain’t no e30 e85 anywhere near me, it’s like a mythical dragon here in Toronto lol nowhere to be found

 

[cncBilly]

Billy there ain’t no e30 e85 anywhere near me, it’s like a mythical dragon here in Toronto lol nowhere to be found

We have one place out here that’s about 20k from my place. So now and then I’ll add 5 gallons to a tank of V91 or chevron 94. Unfortunately I haven’t logged enough pulls to compare and I kinda lost some of my enthusiasm with the track closed out here this year.

 

[NSHFXstinger]

Canada eh, Petro 94 (old Sunoco gold) or esso 93
Why are people hooked on shell lol

Cause here is no Petro 94 (old Sunoco gold) or esso 93. No E85.

 

[Michael Polito]

Cause here is no Petro 94 (old Sunoco gold) or esso 93. No E85.

Where do you live ?

 

[NSHFXstinger]

Where do you live ?

Halifax,N.S. I belive every one in my area will think shell 91 is the best gas we can acess in gas station.
May some tune shop have E85 but definitely not in gas staion. I have asked one he told me it may be very expensive(like race gas?). Other wise Map3&E30 will be my daily lol