In many ways they have similar attributes -- looks, hatchback, etc. But I think the Stinger is more hot-roddish looking and the Panamera is far more elegant looking. I'd like to see the Stinger toned down a bit before I get one in 2020 (when my currentStinefr lease expired.) Especially, get rid of the fake vents. Your thoughts?
I don't think this is a fair comparison TBH. A Porsche panamera is in a totally different luxury class IMO. I mean the Kia is great for what you pay and is a little luxurious but versus a Panamera... that's a stretch.
I think the style differences fairly track the differences in the purposes of the respective cars. The Stinger skews younger, less pompous, more playful. Panameras are designed to announce to the world that the driver spent a fortune on this thing. The Stinger is designed to look like the driver is having fun.
The new Panameras are an evolution in elegance over the prior generation, that's for sure. I especially like the new wagon version. They're showpieces of high technology, absurd performance, and quality for people who want to ride around feeling like the emperor of the universe. If your bank account is bottomless, accept no substitute. Having said that, the Panamera is not as far ahead of comparable sport luxury cruisers as Porsche's Caymans and 911's are ahead of comparable sport cars and GTs imho.
Thus, for those of us outside the 1%, it's hard to ignore that for the price of a Panamera, you could have a Stinger **and** a prime example of car that Porsche does better than anybody else: the Cayman. I'd take that Stinger/Cayman combo over the Panamera any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I think the style differences fairly track the differences in the purposes of the respective cars. The Stinger skews younger, less pompous, more playful. Panameras are designed to announce to the world that the driver spent a fortune on this thing. The Stinger is designed to look like the driver is having fun.
The new Panameras are an evolution in elegance over the prior generation, that's for sure. I especially like the new wagon version. They're showpieces of high technology, absurd performance, and quality for people who want to ride around feeling like the emperor of the universe. If your bank account is bottomless, accept no substitute. Having said that, the Panamera is not as far ahead of comparable sport luxury cruisers as Porsche's Caymans and 911's are ahead of comparable sport cars and GTs imho.
Thus, for those of us outside the 1%, it's hard to ignore that for the price of a Panamera, you could have a Stinger **and** a prime example of car that Porsche does better than anybody else: the Cayman. I'd take that Stinger/Cayman combo over the Panamera any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I agree from a design perspective , length , width , shape , hatch etc they are similar enough to be considered in the same sentence , as for performance the vid that Kia produced comparing our GT's to the BMW 640 and Panamera (6cyl ) would also suggests that from a driving perspective they can be included in the same sentence as well .As for interiors and Lux factor...............ummm not so much .
I think the style differences fairly track the differences in the purposes of the respective cars. The Stinger skews younger, less pompous, more playful. Panameras are designed to announce to the world that the driver spent a fortune on this thing. The Stinger is designed to look like the driver is having fun.
The new Panameras are an evolution in elegance over the prior generation, that's for sure. I especially like the new wagon version. They're showpieces of high technology, absurd performance, and quality for people who want to ride around feeling like the emperor of the universe. If your bank account is bottomless, accept no substitute. Having said that, the Panamera is not as far ahead of comparable sport luxury cruisers as Porsche's Caymans and 911's are ahead of comparable sport cars and GTs imho.
Thus, for those of us outside the 1%, it's hard to ignore that for the price of a Panamera, you could have a Stinger **and** a prime example of car that Porsche does better than anybody else: the Cayman. I'd take that Stinger/Cayman combo over the Panamera any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
It's a silly comparo. No Porschephile will ever cross-shop Kia Stinger, regardless of how much they might look alike or how many 10ths of second faster 0-60. That 3.0L Panamera might start around $90k on paper, in reality, few ever leave the showroom as such. Most are ordered with a good number of options from Porsche's endless listing of ways to customize and to pile $$$ on top of the base MSRP. More than likely, even "base" Panameras are $120k - or higher - as delivered. These are bought by corporate execs who need to take a few VPs to lunch after the board meeting. Said exec will drive right up to the valet podium, even if there are empty parking slots a couple of rows to the left. The car is there to convey a message in a language that the Stinger simply does not parley.
And... of course, for those Panamera clientele that do care about performance, Porsche offers the 5.0L Turbo. Yeah... good luck with that comparo.
I've never understood the Panamera, even for the buyer who doesn't care about Porsche aside from the badge (same type buying FWD "luxury" cars like Toyotas with Lexus badges for $10k more) -- those buyers have all moved to SUVs so I'd expect them to choose a Macan or maybe Cayenne to haul the kids around.
The Panamera is perfectly competent and doesn't look bad, but I can't imagine buying a "Porsche" with the engine in front, a V6, and four doors.
I don't see the majority of Panamera owners are hauling their kids around. It sold more as an executive sedan that is more sporting than the equivalent BMW or Mercedes. Most I see are at least "S" with GTS and Turbo (S) quite common. It doesn't sell nearly as well as Macan or Cayenne but it definitely has its niche.
The comparison to the Stinger is as silly as the EV6 GT to the Lamborghini Huracan. It appeals to potential Kia buyers but does not even register to luxury car buyers...let alone Porsche buyers. It makes us feel good about our cars. If the Stinger is the "Poor man's A7" then it's the "Homeless man's Panamera"
The idea of a car like the Panamera actually grew out of the 928. The Porsche 989 concept car was built all the way back in 1988, when SUVs haven't yet entered into the general public's imagination, even in North America. The idea of a 4-door executive sedan more practical than the 928 was quite appealing in those days. Well, the project got shelved when Porsche sailed through some trouble seas in the 90's but the project was finally revived and production began in 2009. By then, SUVs were already on the rise in the US but the Panamera still enjoyed success, even in the land of SUVs and pickup trucks. There are just some vehicles dynamics of a low-CG sedan that cannot be replicated in a tall SUV. This remains true to this day.
That's funny......... usually I get asked if my car is a Maserati.
With that said, I was at the gas station one day and a guy at the pump was eyeing my car hard. He was driving a Panamera. Older one I think. Probably the only one I've ever seen in person. He asked me what it was and he obviously was impressed with the Stinger. I told him he could probably buy my car new, an older sports car of his choice and he might have some cash left over. He had a good laugh.