Goodbye - it's been great

7Andrei7

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Guys, this is goodbye!
These past 6,5 years have been great behind the wheel of my '19 Stinger GT Line.
I've put 228.000 km on it.

Have had a bunch of annoyances, especially with tires and brakes.
Few technical problems which I think I should list:
- starter motor (changed because the stop&go did not work properly)
- torque converter (known issue on the EU 2.0 engine) replaced on warranty
- both mirrors (stopped folding)
- had to rebuild my right front calliper
- had my ECU updated (the GPF regeneration was not working properly)

And 2 things which were cause by other people:
- one ABS sensor broken by accident (by me :))
- the steering rack - broken by the dealership when changing the bushings. They replaced the whole thing.

Everything else has been bulletproof. The engine is as smooth as it was in the beginning.
Interior looks like new. Never ate any oil. Never had any leaks or even wet spots.

I decided to sell it simply because I wanted something new. I live in the middle of the mountains now and was contemplating getting something sportier and maybe with AWD.
After considering the Genesis G70 (2.0), the BMW 330i (would have loved the 40i but over budget) and the A5 45TFSI I ended up with an Alfa Romeo Giulia Competizione (280hp). I bought it from an Alfa dealer in Germany with 19k km on it (at about 25k EUR discount from the list price).

It's AWD but heavily RDW bias. It actually is always in RWD unless the wheels slip. Has a mechanical LSD on the rear, adaptive suspension and full leather interior (top of the dash and doors). After driving it a few thousand km I have to say it's a different car to the Stinger but it's not all benefits.

The Giulia is definitely faster. Only 35hp more but about 200kg less. It feels much better to drive, like a car that is much lighter and shorter. Front moves together with the rear. The gearbox is much faster in sport mode (dynamic).
On the downside, the suspension in comfort is much harsher than the one on my Stinger which was a basic "hard" tune with no adaptive function. The Stinger just rode better over harshness (same wheel size and tires).
The Alfa is quieter inside but the engine is much rougher than the Stinger at low revs. It is also way worse than the Stinger when it comes to small rattles in the cabin. My Stinger was very quiet. Alfa has a bunch of small rattles (working on them).

That's about it. Sorry for the long post.
And thank you for the support during these years!
 
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"The long goodbye". I enjoyed your farewell posts. And I still think the Stinger is the better looking car. Hah.
 
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Glad you got a new ride to play with. Too bad you couldn't keep both!
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Interesting read. A few personal thoughts. here.
From the pics, I prefer the back end of the Stinger. Also with the lift gate, I suspect the Stinger is more useful for hauling stuff.
I was also wondering if you considered trading up for a newer (2022-23) V6 model Stinger. The 3.3L twin turbo is plenty quick.
That brings me to my last thought. Alfa isn't known for it's long term reliability.
I hope you get many years of trouble free driving, but I'm a little skeptical in that regard.
 
Interesting read. A few personal thoughts. here.
From the pics, I prefer the back end of the Stinger. Also with the lift gate, I suspect the Stinger is more useful for hauling stuff.
I was also wondering if you considered trading up for a newer (2022-23) V6 model Stinger. The 3.3L twin turbo is plenty quick.
That brings me to my last thought. Alfa isn't known for it's long term reliability.
I hope you get many years of trouble free driving, but I'm a little skeptical in that regard.
I did think about the face-lifted V6 Stinger but the taxes here on any engine over 3.0 are prohibitive.

I read quite a lot about the Alfa reliability. It's definitely not known for that. However, my Giulia was basically at the end of production so I'm hoping any major problems had been ironed out by now. I expect the engine to be reasonably reliable since it's also being used on a few much heavier vehicles (Stelvio, Wrangler and Grand Cherokee).

Long term Giulia owners seem to be quite happy with them.
 
Congrats on the new ride. I love the front end of those Alfas, even more than the Stinger. But I do think the bank end of the Stinger looks better.

That's interesting info about the Alfa's AWD being RWD biased. Pretty much every review I saw of the Alfa always covered the RWD version. In my region they only tend to sell the AWD cars. I was kinda considering it when I was originally shopping for my Stinger, but ultimately the Stinger's better practicality and power won me over. Plus the 2.0 Alfas were damn near the same price as the 3.3 Stingers.

If I ever wanted to drop down to the turbo 4 sporty luxury/premium sedans then the Alfa would be on my short list along with the G70 2.5T
 
Congrats, have fun and see you down the road!
 
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From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
I did think about the face-lifted V6 Stinger but the taxes here on any engine over 3.0 are prohibitive.

I read quite a lot about the Alfa reliability. It's definitely not known for that. However, my Giulia was basically at the end of production so I'm hoping any major problems had been ironed out by now. I expect the engine to be reasonably reliable since it's also being used on a few much heavier vehicles (Stelvio, Wrangler and Grand Cherokee).

Long term Giulia owners seem to be quite happy with them.
Damn! They tax you on engine size?

And Congrats on the Alfa. I’ve wanted a Giulia Qaddition since they debuted. Just a little hesitant about getting into bed w Stelantis.
 
2.000 EUR/year for the 3.3. That's on top of the way more expensive insurance.
Every country is different but the EU as a whole is not a friend of big engines.
Yup. Though my in-laws I can confirm that.

Also, wanted to thank you for doing the legwork for the FitCamX Dashcam for us. Mine's been working splendidly and nothing about it has been obtrusive--it looks like it came with the Stinger stock.
 
Guys, this is goodbye!
These past 6,5 years have been great behind the wheel of my '19 Stinger GT Line.
I've put 228.000 km on it.

Have had a bunch of annoyances, especially with tires and brakes.
Few technical problems which I think I should list:
- starter motor (changed because the stop&go did not work properly)
- torque converter (known issue on the EU 2.0 engine) replaced on warranty
- both mirrors (stopped folding)
- had to rebuild my right front calliper
- had my ECU updated (the GPF regeneration was not working properly)

And 2 things which were cause by other people:
- one ABS sensor broken by accident (by me :))
- the steering rack - broken by the dealership when changing the bushings. They replaced the whole thing.

Everything else has been bulletproof. The engine is as smooth as it was in the beginning.
Interior looks like new. Never ate any oil. Never had any leaks or even wet spots.

I decided to sell it simply because I wanted something new. I live in the middle of the mountains now and was contemplating getting something sportier and maybe with AWD.
After considering the Genesis G70 (2.0), the BMW 330i (would have loved the 40i but over budget) and the A5 45TFSI I ended up with an Alfa Romeo Giulia Competizione (280hp). I bought it from an Alfa dealer in Germany with 19k km on it (at about 25k EUR discount from the list price).

It's AWD but heavily RDW bias. It actually is always in RWD unless the wheels slip. Has a mechanical LSD on the rear, adaptive suspension and full leather interior (top of the dash and doors). After driving it a few thousand km I have to say it's a different car to the Stinger but it's not all benefits.

The Giulia is definitely faster. Only 35hp more but about 200kg less. It feels much better to drive, like a car that is much lighter and shorter. Front moves together with the rear. The gearbox is much faster in sport mode (dynamic).
On the downside, the suspension in comfort is much harsher than the one on my Stinger which was a basic "hard" tune with no adaptive function. The Stinger just rode better over harshness (same wheel size and tires).
The Alfa is quieter inside but the engine is much rougher than the Stinger at low revs. It is also way worse than the Stinger when it comes to small rattles in the cabin. My Stinger was very quiet. Alfa has a bunch of small rattles (working on them).

That's about it. Sorry for the long post.
And thank you for the support during these years!
See yer mate been interesting following your journey over the years. Thought I'd just check in. Been out since 12/12/23.
 
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