Engine Oil Cooler Install? My idea, thoughts/input needed

[Samurai_JackEP101]

Okay so I have searched high and low for an Engine oil cooler install on the Stinger and all I have found was the trans cooler install. My thought behind this whole thing is I live in a winter climate, I plan on auto cross here and there but its also a daily so I need the oil to be the correct temp at all times.

I have this idea for an install. From my understanding the OEM oil cooler sits on top of the oil filter with barb connections for supply and return of the engine oil. I know the K8Stinger store sells an engine oil cooler kit but it does not come with a thermostatic valve for oil temp control. I found that Mishimoto sells both a universal oil cooler and an inline thermostatic valve.

If I took the return barb end from the OEM cooler into a barb on the Mishi thermo valve then barb back to engine and on 2 cooler connection sides go screw fitting to the cooler. Would that be the correct way to plumb that up?

Could even add an inline Mishi filter for an extra layer of protection.

It could also be replicated for the trans cooler (I think) since I don't think the BMS one has a thermo sensor either.

Links:
Mishi items -
Universal Oil Cooler Kit, 13-Row - Universal cooler - would get with out sandwich plate and get inline thermo instead
Mishimoto Inline Oil Thermostat - Inline Thermo - also allows for easy change out of the thermostat part incase you wanted the oil to be cooled more or less often

 

[oddball]

The barbs are for coolant! The oil flows through the flat interface between the filter housing and the engine block. You would have to replace the filter housing or add a plate to intercept the oil flow.
If you're real serious about this then just pull the coolant hoses and connect them directly to each other. Then set up a separate water coolant loop with a pump, reservoir, and heat exchanger to separately cool the oil. You can get real creative by adding some control logic based on oil temp.

 

[Samurai_JackEP101]

The barbs are for coolant! The oil flows through the flat interface between the filter housing and the engine block. You would have to replace the filter housing or add a plate to intercept the oil flow.
If you're real serious about this then just pull the coolant hoses and connect them directly to each other. Then set up a separate water coolant loop with a pump, reservoir, and heat exchanger to separately cool the oil. You can get real creative by adding some control logic based on oil temp.

So to understand oil flows through the plate into the filter and then the "oil cooler" has coolant flowing through it to cool said oil, then the oil flows back into the engine.

I wish kia had used a normal screw on filter would make this so much easier because you could just use a sandwich plate with the thermostat. Could in theory (other than creating a custom look), you take the K8store oil cooler setup and add the thermostat to that between the oil feed and return lines. I have a very creative mind by I am just getting into car modification so not sure how easily I could pull off a fully custom setup.

 

[Thomby]

So to understand oil flows through the plate into the filter and then the "oil cooler" has coolant flowing through it to cool said oil, then the oil flows back into the engine.

Right, it's a small oil to water (coolant) heat exchanger, so your ~200-210 degree coolant can cool your engine oil if it gets to, say, 220-240.

Could in theory (other than creating a custom look), you take the K8store oil cooler setup and add the thermostat to that between the oil feed and return lines

The K8 cooler appears to be a separate oil-to-air radiator, and coolant-to-air radiator. So you air cool the oil, and separately you air cool the coolant from the stock air to water intercooler (I'm assuming the latter based on the size; it's basically a pre-cooler for particularly hot coolant before it goes back to the main cooling system).

Not sure why you'd want a thermostat on the oil radiator (or coolant one). If you're worried about long warmup in winter, your main coolant loop already has a thermostat that keeps coolant in the block while it warms up, and the oil-to-water exchanger means whichever liquid heats up faster (I assume the oil) will just share its heat with the other.

The small air radiators the kit adds will reject some heat to outside air, but that's throttled by the temperature delta which will be minimal while the car is cold, so it's already self-regulating, in my opinion.

 

[Samurai_JackEP101]

Right, it's a small oil to water (coolant) heat exchanger, so your ~200-210 degree coolant can cool your engine oil if it gets to, say, 220-240.


The K8 cooler appears to be a separate oil-to-air radiator, and coolant-to-air radiator. So you air cool the oil, and separately you air cool the coolant from the stock air to water intercooler (I'm assuming the latter based on the size; it's basically a pre-cooler for particularly hot coolant before it goes back to the main cooling system).

Not sure why you'd want a thermostat on the oil radiator (or coolant one). If you're worried about long warmup in winter, your main coolant loop already has a thermostat that keeps coolant in the block while it warms up, and the oil-to-water exchanger means whichever liquid heats up faster (I assume the oil) will just share its heat with the other.

The small air radiators the kit adds will reject some heat to outside air, but that's throttled by the temperature delta which will be minimal while the car is cold, so it's already self-regulating, in my opinion.

I basically wanted to make sure that the engine while driving in the winter wasn't getting hurt by to cold of oil or coolant because of the added cooling capacity. However, if it really won't cause any harm in 0 degree weather and its just a longer warm up cycle then I am completely find with that.

 

[Thomby]

I basically wanted to make sure that the engine while driving in the winter wasn't getting hurt by to cold of oil or coolant because of the added cooling capacity. However, if it really won't cause any harm in 0 degree weather and its just a longer warm up cycle then I am completely find with that.

I still think the additional coolant cooling will be minimal based on size relative to the full radiator, but maybe I'm underestimating how much the oil exchanger will keep oil temp below optimum (even with the "coolant" system acting as an engine+oil heating system until temps open the thermostat).

Unfortunately I don't have any hard data on this, so unless our resident data logger @D.J. has one installed, or K8SS has info, I think you'd need to monitor warmup times/temps before and after to see if it's notable. JB4 will show coolant & transmission temp, but I don't believe it displays oil temp.

 

[ht_addict]

Why not just get a block heater?