Electrical Issue? Car won't start? My crazy story...

SKStinger

1000 Posts Club!
Joined
Mar 18, 2018
Messages
1,182
Reaction score
863
Points
118
Location
Saskatchewan, Canada
Sharing my experience here in case it helps anyone else and because it's a strange one!

I drove home from work late Tuesday night, car was perfect, no issues. Wednesday morning I go out to the garage to start it and the dash lights up. The system scan at ignition on makes a bizarre grinding noise as it scans the car and then displays the traction control, TPMS and ABS warning lights with a message to "Check TPMS system". Car won't start. Accessory mode just "clicks" and neither the instrument cluster or infotainment screens illuminate in Accessory mode. Only Ignition on shows the instrument cluster screen and the system scan "grinding". Can't open the rear hatch, interior lights aren't on, power seat buttons don't work, no infotainment screen, no climate control. My initial thought is an electrical glitch.

So I manually open the hatch, remove the negative, wait a few minutes and reconnect. Doesn't fix the issue. Connect a trickle charger to the engine bay posts thinking it could be a low/faulty battery. Come back a couple hours later, shut the hood and magically everything is back to normal! I think must have been a low battery!

Come back an hour later to start the car, same issue is back.

Head out and purchase a replacement battery thinking it could be voltage related or a bad cell in the battery. Replace the battery, the issue still remains (thankfully i can return the replacement!).

At this point I decide to remove anything "electrical" i've added to the car to see if it is causing the problem and also prep the car in case it needs to be towed to the dealer. I do that with the negative off and the hood up. Reconnect the negative, close the hood and just like that, car's normal again! Hurray i fixed it! Must have been something I did?

Next day, go out to start it. Same issue is back. 'Insert swearing here'. I'm at a loss now so last resort is to either call road-side assistance and get her towed to the Dealer or try one last ditch effort to diagnose and solve the problem.

I grab the owners manual and go over the fuse box diagrams and fuse locations. Begin swapping fuses with spares from the rear fuse box for electronic parts of the car that aren't working starting with the cabin fuse box. No luck there.

Pop the hood and look at the engine fuse box diagram. Notice there is a 200 amp purple fuse for the "alternator" (right side in photo below). Hmmm, that sounds important and related to my issue. So I tap with my finger on that fuse and voila, the interior lights come back on! Go and hit the ignition, car completes the scan normally and all error lights are gone. WTF! Go back to the fuse and notice that one of the two black nuts that hold the fuse in position are loose and it's sporadically making contact with the metal plate beneath it. Tighten that nut and the car is completely normal. Problem solved. Opening and closing the hood or doors would cause the fuse to shake enough that it would engage or disengage, hence the strange series of events.

Long story here but one loose nut could have cost me having my entire car ripped apart by the Dealer who may or may not have actually found the problem because the error lights the car was throwing wouldn't necessarily point you to this solution. This nut likely wasn't tightened enough from factory and over time, worked its way loose enough to keep the alternator fuse from adequately making contact. This would have shut the car down had it happened while driving so thankfully it was in my garage!

1653937056513.png
 
Last edited:
Out of curiosity, have you had the fuse box recall done? makes me wonder if they didn’t tighten it down afterwards.
 
______________________________
Out of curiosity, have you had the fuse box recall done? makes me wonder if they didn’t tighten it down afterwards.
Great question. I did it myself. The simple multi-fuse swap method. That photo i posted is an old shot so doesn't have the updated multi-fuse pictured. I definitely didn't touch that alternator fuse bolt/nut though as it's a different nut for that multi-fuse. The silver one just below the purple alternator fuse.
 
Last edited:
Good for you on trouble shooting.

Is it these 2 circled in red?

1653943373338.webp

I would make sure all the others are tight too. Just be careful not to touch anything as I believe that entire side is hot.
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Good for you on trouble shooting.

Is it these 2 circled in red?

View attachment 71411

I would make sure all the others are tight too. Just be careful not to touch anything as I believe that entire side is hot.
Yes, those two. Only one was loose.

I had the negative off when I put the wrench to them.
 
The interesting parallel with my dead TPMS screen is the same simple solution: all I did was take the panel off under the glove box and push every connector I could see together: on the right end (where @General_Vodka said to look) nothing moved, nothing felt loose. But ever since (this was two weeks ago), my TPMS system has worked without a hitch. Loose things are probably 99% of the issues that people experience electronically.
 
Ah, more things coming loose.

I've had the passenger side door hinge and a HVAC cap come loose recently. Done only 18,000kms.

What next, you wonder!
 
You my friend, are an absolute lifesaver. Thank you!
No problem. Happy this helped someone! Was this nut loose on yours also?
 
______________________________
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
I'm experiencing the exact same issues. TPMS warning, check brake fuse, no trunk power. Except I do have lights in the car and my dash lights up. No electricity to the infotainment though. It literally happened all of a sudden, without and warning. I can figure it out and the car isn't parked in a place where it can be towed. It really sucks, I'd never thought the stinger would have so many issues. Mines completely unmodified and almost new as well
 
What other issues have you been having?
Well, we tried jump starting it using the front terminals, no luck. No extra power. I was really confused because that suggested it wasn't a battery problem. I whipped out the multimeter on the battery and it was reading 12V. But when I connected the battery up, the voltage quickly dropped to below 7V. Pretty obvious it was a battery charge problem then and I just didn't jump start it properly. So I jump started the car, using the battery terminals and it worked great! Car is back to normal now. It was just really confusing that the vehicle threw so many errors codes
 
Kind of the same issue here, and i still havent been able to fix it.I Have a 2020 stinger Gt2 and just recently my car kind of stalled out on me mid drive so i pulled into a parking lot nearby. I shut it off and tried turning it back on and it simply wouldnt crank anymore. I got the car towed back home and have been looking for all types of solutions but cant find any. I tried disconnecting the battery and letting it reset still no luck. When i try to start up the car it shows my check engine, oil, and battery lights. All electricals from radio, power seats and dash still work but my engine just wont crank i wont even hear my starter when trying to turn on the car. Any ideas or help on how to go about this issue?
 
From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
Kind of the same issue here, and i still havent been able to fix it.I Have a 2020 stinger Gt2 and just recently my car kind of stalled out on me mid drive so i pulled into a parking lot nearby. I shut it off and tried turning it back on and it simply wouldnt crank anymore. I got the car towed back home and have been looking for all types of solutions but cant find any. I tried disconnecting the battery and letting it reset still no luck. When i try to start up the car it shows my check engine, oil, and battery lights. All electricals from radio, power seats and dash still work but my engine just wont crank i wont even hear my starter when trying to turn on the car. Any ideas or help on how to go about this issue?
Why are you trying to troubleshoot this by yourself? Since it won't even crank it is probably solenoid/starter motor caused. My guess.
 
______________________________
Kind of the same issue here, and i still havent been able to fix it.I Have a 2020 stinger Gt2 and just recently my car kind of stalled out on me mid drive so i pulled into a parking lot nearby. I shut it off and tried turning it back on and it simply wouldnt crank anymore. I got the car towed back home and have been looking for all types of solutions but cant find any. I tried disconnecting the battery and letting it reset still no luck. When i try to start up the car it shows my check engine, oil, and battery lights. All electricals from radio, power seats and dash still work but my engine just wont crank i wont even hear my starter when trying to turn on the car. Any ideas or help on how to go about this issue?
My G70 3.3 starter recently pooped out. All electricals were working but no crank. Car had a couple delayed starts prior so I thought maybe the battery. Tried getting a jump but no luck, the AAA guy that came out tried knocking on the starter body and we noticed some clicking but that was it. Battery was measuring 12.5v so it wasn't the problem. Towed to Genesis Las Vegas and they confirmed it was the starter, also found two front control arm bushing that were cracked so they replaced both entire arms, not just the bushings. Also found a timing cover oil leak so they replaced all the cover seals. Luckily I had 3 months left on my 5/60 warranty as I'm the second owner, and I don't believe the starter is covered under the powertrain warranty anyhow. This would have been about a $3k visit otherwise :)

Starter died in a parking garage 5 miles from the dealer, were were on a vacation 770 miles from home (which is 450 miles from a Genesis dealer). It was a godsend that it died where it did, and they fixed it in 2 days. Since the starter was on the verge of death it picked the most optimum place to kick it :thumbup:
 
Back
Top