DynoComp Tune - Custom Dyno Tuning - Scottsdale, AZ

[DaBears4Lyfe]

so your argument is I've had lots of dyno pulls and my car hasnt blown up so its good???? Really Dude come on. I go in every tuning thread and lookat the details and provide feedback. I'm sorry that TORKS the fastest and you have beef with Tork... But if you note I +1d Kagan and Dynocomp...

If your tune is done why not post FINAL Stage 2 graphs that don't show a huge dip?

Same reason i didnt share a full log. Its not my business. You act like I own Alphaspeed. Yet I dont go into Kagan or Dynacomp thread saying Alpha is better. Stop being so ignorant.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

But I am critizcing the AS tune and based on the avaiable data which is limited I would not suggest anyone buy it.

Also they will be tuning their 18th stinger this week. Its so bad yet people keep buying it.

 

[Nuthadey]

and tell me its a potatoe....

You spelled "potato" wrong big dawg.

 

[Thorne]

With 18 where is a example of a good stage 2 graph or a draggy time showing lc figured out? Kagan gas shared some draggy times that atlesst indicate he's making progress. All we have for as is the graph which shows peak hp but issues during boost onset.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

With 18 where is a example of a good stage 2 graph or a draggy time showing lc figured out? Kagan gas shared some draggy times that atlesst indicate he's making progress. All we have for as is the graph which shows peak hp but issues during boost onset.

According to you. Why dont you dm them they wont give you anything since they know very well what your motives are, but you can try.

As you see there are 1000s of tuned with piggy or ecu stingers how many of them post their draggy or slips on here or facebook? 30-40...

 

[Thorne]

According to you. Why dont you dm them they wont give you anything since they know very well what your motives are, but you can try.

As you see there are 1000s of tuned with piggy or ecu stingers how many of them post their draggy or slips on here or facebook? 30-40...

Dude, I've had wonderful conversations with other tuners. I talked to Nathan from Sxth on a regular basis , I chat with Kagan via PMs.. You keep thinking I have a motive.... I don't and you would realize that if you took off your tork hater glasses and looked at my comments from the point of view of someone who cares about our community... You get really upset when i talk about AS negatively and you seem to think its personal. What do you believe my motive is?

If my motive was TORK only why would I took the time to reach out to SXTH and Kagan to find out if they would Sell maps to users who want to self flash? I HAVE NO ILL INTENT and my only goal is help guide people into Solid Tunes... When I was a full time tuner my speciality was Boosted GM and Subaru on stock ecus and AEM for Standalones. Locally we had multiple shops who were in the same market as me yet I was friends with the shops and even collaberated with multiple shops on cars. Both me needing help (Ford Mustangs) and me providing help (MazdaSpeed/FocusST).

I'm dead serious when I say my goal isn't to BASH AS into the ground unjustly, I'd love to have a conversation with there lead tuner and chat about things with them and share knowledge.

 

[FokalPoint]

If anyone cares, I actually ran into the owner and the car used in my original post. He said he's been super happy with the tune and hasn't had a single issue. He's been enjoying destroying the local Porsche community and just driving the car daily.

I am probably going to end up going with JB4 and WMI since it's the best solution for the combination at this time. 91 gas here in AZ sucks and I'd like to have a safety net in the summers when it's 120 degrees ambient.

 

[Thorne]

you should invite him to the community. Do you have a contact for dynocomp? I'd love to do a review of there tune

 

[FokalPoint]

you should invite him to the community. Do you have a contact for dynocomp? I'd love to do a review of there tune

The only person I talked to was the head sales guy via email, so just the generic number from their site. I didn't get a chance to mention the forums to the guy. I just spotted him walking to his car as I drove by and stopped to talk through the window.

 

[Thorne]

I reached out via Facebook. Tbh the curve looks good.

 

[Thorne]

I dont deny I'm biased and admit I am a big supporter of Kagantuned, as well as BMS & the JB4. However, the reason I am is because I've followed and heavily researched the top tuners & tunes available for our Stingers. Over the last 2 years I've read almost every post about them and have communicated with and/or questioned the top 5 tuners that make products for our cars. I've weighed the pros & cons of each one and so far only BMS & Kagantuned are worthy enough for promoting due to their knowledge, experience, customer service and overall superior products.

I agree that the highest numbers don't necessarily mean the best tune, and typically record numbers mean pushing the limits which usually does reduce reliability. However I know Kagantuned is testing & tuning his personally owned Stinger, and his businesses motto is "Driveability is my #1 priority". He has explained that he's aware of the limits for boost, ignition timing, AFR, LC, etc. and has set his stage 1 to maximize performance while still being conservative and reliable.

Again, I agree having a local tuner that can dyno tune your car and make the adjustments needed for fuel, mods, etc. is ideal. I was just alerting you to tuners that arent familiar enough with our ECU and are only adjusting very few ecu tables which produces poor results and even reliability issues.

FYI- We have a reputable tuner in FL(HydraMotorsports) that tunes high performance Mclarens, Hellcats, etc. and tried to tune 2 of my friends Stingers. They promised 500hp+ but they didnt crack enough of our ECU tables so they both were slower than my other buddies JB4/Lap3 Stingers. One started having problems with his engine and the other switched to a different tune because he couldn't compete. You simply want to make sure your tuner is experienced with our cars specifically and not just guessing or changing a few ecu tables out of the 1000s that can be adjusted.

I notice you have had a few tuned cars and was curious if you personally have tuning experiance or just a end user, Do you review Logs? I'm honestly curious as I see you making suggestions pretty often.

 

[Vladec]

@Thorne - love all the insight although mostly what your saying sounds foreign to me.
@DaBears4Lyfe - Ultracrepidarian

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I notice you have had a few tuned cars and was curious if you personally have tuning experiance or just a end user, Do you review Logs? I'm honestly curious as I see you making suggestions pretty often.

Yes, I’ve actually been building engines & tuning cars for over 25yrs. We manual tuned engines & AFRs with different carburetors, manifolds and cams before relying on computers to adjust everything for us. Things are so much easier now when it comes to adding power, but these new tuning technologies are fascinating. I don’t personally tune ECUs as I rely on the top experts to do that for me, but do have experience with several tuned cars over the last 15yrs+

I consistently review logs, dynos, tuning advancements & the knowledge base of the top Stingers tuners and only recommend those that I’d trust to work on my own cars. Unfortunately I’ve come across a couple tuners with horrible reputations and/or lack of talent, that prey on uninformed people. That’s why I do tons of research and make helpful suggestions often. I simply do my best to help fellow Stinger owners see those inadequacies, and hopefully save them from making decisions they may regret.

 

[Socalstinga]

Yes, I’ve actually been building engines & tuning cars for over 25yrs. We manual tuned engines & AFRs with different carburetors, manifolds and cams before relying on computers to adjust everything for us. Things are so much easier now when it comes to adding power, but these new tuning technologies are fascinating. I don’t personally tune ECUs as I rely on the top experts to do that for me, but do have experience with several tuned cars over the last 15yrs+

I consistently review logs, dynos, tuning advancements & the knowledge base of the top Stingers tuners and only recommend those that I’d trust to work on my own cars. Unfortunately I’ve come across a couple tuners with horrible reputations and/or lack of talent, that prey on uninformed people. That’s why I do tons of research and make helpful suggestions often. I simply do my best to help fellow Stinger owners see those inadequacies, and hopefully save them from making decisions they may regret.

From your research, what tuners would you say are at the top of your list in terms of reputation, talent, and tune product?

 

[Tonkabob]

@Thorne would know best as he has talked to every tuner and prob has half the tunes as well...

 

[StungBlueGT2]

From your research, what tuners would you say are at the top of your list in terms of reputation, talent, and tune product?

For ECU tuners here in the USA and based on those three qualifications I’d only suggest Kagantuned and Pressertech. They both have excellent reputations, experience & talent with Kagantuned having the advantage for biggest gains & performance results. Chris(Kagantuned) is also thoroughly testing everything on his own Stinger so he won’t release anything until it’s basically perfect & reliable.

When it comes to piggybacks I’d suggest BMS/JB4 as the top choice since they have the most experience, talent, unmatchable customer service & is the best selling chip by far. There are many advantages to that chip vs all the others and many reasons why they have sold 1000s+ of piggybacks for our Stingers. Even though David Chung(lap3) has spread a lot of misinformation and blatantly copied most of their stuff from the JB4, I know several people with them and they are happy with the results. My friend blueberry_gt has the current stock turbo Stinger record with 517whp(New Stinger HP record 517whp!) and the results are impressive. So if money is not an issue and max hp is your priority then I’d also recommend the lap3.

Hope that helps and happy tuning.

 

[Thorne]

So I think your post is a bit biased, considering that I've talked to just about every major player in the scene and provided feedback I think its doing the community a disjustice to skip out on the tuner who currently has some of the fastest cars out there. Tork Motorsports is actively performing RnD on our ecu, I know because I've been one of the primary beta testers and I'm one of the few people who can flash there own ecu and even if i wanted to modify it.

I've spoked with Kagan and I though I think he may be on to something we really don't have much data at this time to confirm this. I have offered to beta test his work if he was interested.. I've also spoked to Norman over at Alphaspeed, Though they are still early in there RnD they are making great progress and based on feed back I've given Norman we've seen improvements on Jesse's car. Torks work speaks for it self look at Tims car's times..

One thing poeple seem to forget is that a dyno number is just that, There are allot of other items that go into play when creating a solid tune. That includes Target AFRs, Timing , Timing on Shift , Fuel Pressure , Throttle opening speed and throttle staying open on shift, LAunch control . Right now Brakesnip is still faster than our best LC but progress is being made.

I'd really like to see more data on Pressuretechs tune including some logs as well as Kagans, But like I stated above we just don't have the data yet.

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