dealership offered me 44k for my Stinger in trade against a 2022 Scorpion Edition

[Robilar]

Giving a trade in some serious thought.

I had my car in for service and the dealership that I go to has a black scorpion coming in early next month.

They straight out offered me 44k for my 2019 in trade (given it only has 6000km on it not too surprised)

The 2022 is 54k + PDI and taxes.

Aside from the incremental upgrades (like bigger and better infotainment screen), my primary thought behind this is the warranty. Even though I bought this stinger earlier this year with only 1200km on it, its a 2019 and given I am the second owner I only get 5 years 100k) rather than the full warranty. The car will be 3 years old in a couple of months so I am already behind the eight ball in a couple of years if there are any major issues.

The good news is the black alloy winter rims for my GT limited will fit the 2022 without issue (and the dealer wouldn't give much for them) so that's a nice bonus.

I'm looking at about 13k total out of pocket for the trade in but in return getting an updated version that already has black rims (which I paid to have powdercoated on my car) plus the various tech improvements and updated exhaust.

and of coures a full 10 year warraty

Thoughts?

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

FWIW, if the US got the same Stinger Canada did in 2019, I'd have bought one then (you guys had UVO Link / UVO Intelligence all along. US Stingers could not get it at any price). Would the upgrade to the 2022 be worth $10K? Eh... the infotainment is nicer, the ambient lighting is nicer, the blind spot cameras are neat, and the wing looks OK, and so do the interior trim differences in the Scorpion Edition, but is it worth $10K for that difference? From a Canadian-market 2019 Stinger, Not really.

How likely is it you're going to incur at least $10K worth of out-of-warranty service if you keep the car stock or tune it only moderately, and maintain it well? Not likely. These cars are designed to last at least 10 years/100,000 miles(damn our olde tyme units) without failure to meet the US warranty.

 

[NS_Stinger]

Giving a trade in some serious thought.

I had my car in for service and the dealership that I go to has a black scorpion coming in early next month.

They straight out offered me 44k for my 2019 in trade (given it only has 6000km on it not too surprised)

The 2022 is 54k + PDI and taxes.

Aside from the incremental upgrades (like bigger and better infotainment screen), my primary thought behind this is the warranty. Even though I bought this stinger earlier this year with only 1200km on it, its a 2019 and given I am the second owner I only get 5 years 100k) rather than the full warranty. The car will be 3 years old in a couple of months so I am already behind the eight ball in a couple of years if there are any major issues.

The good news is the black alloy winter rims for my GT limited will fit the 2022 without issue (and the dealer wouldn't give much for them) so that's a nice bonus.

I'm looking at about 13k total out of pocket for the trade in but in return getting an updated version that already has black rims (which I paid to have powdercoated on my car) plus the various tech improvements and updated exhaust.

and of coures a full 10 year warraty

Thoughts?

If you're in Canada I'm not sure what your dealer told you but Kia's dont have 10 year warranties in Canada...its a 5 year 100,000km warranty here. 10 year is only in USA. See for yourself here:

Kia Canada Inc. reports 3,998 vehicles sold in February

Kia Canada's News

www.kia.ca

 

[Robilar]

If you're in Canada I'm not sure what your dealer told you but Kia's dont have 10 year warranties in Canada...its a 5 year 100,000km warranty here. 10 year is only in USA. See for yourself here:

Kia Canada Inc. reports 3,998 vehicles sold in February

Kia Canada's News

www.kia.ca

Hmm that may have been a mistaken assumption on my part.

So the second owner warranty in Canada is still 5 year? Or is that reduced as well?

 

[Robilar]

FWIW, if the US got the same Stinger Canada did in 2019, I'd have bought one then (you guys had UVO Link / UVO Intelligence all along. US Stingers could not get it at any price). Would the upgrade to the 2022 be worth $10K? Eh... the infotainment is nicer, the ambient lighting is nicer, the blind spot cameras are neat, and the wing looks OK, and so do the interior trim differences in the Scorpion Edition, but is it worth $10K for that difference? From a Canadian-market 2019 Stinger, Not really.

How likely is it you're going to incur at least $10K worth of out-of-warranty service if you keep the car stock or tune it only moderately, and maintain it well? Not likely. These cars are designed to last at least 10 years/100,000 miles(damn our olde tyme units) without failure to meet the US warranty.

That's good feedback. I do like my car a great deal and it has a solid tech suite currently. I also like the incremental upgrades (the blind spot lane change camera for example) on the 2022.

I was only thinking about keeping the car for another year or so and then buying the Audi I was originally planning. Maybe I'll stay that route then. It will still have ridiculously lower mileage by the time that occurs.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

If you decide to go this route, make sure you can buy 2022 for 54k, without any "market adjustment ". I've seen dealer adding almost 10k on kia carnival, and making 36k base model into 45k van.

 

[stoopid]

I always believe in buying what you want. It sounds like the Stinger isn't really the car, since you have your mind set on something else in the next year. If you went with the 2022 and the car market returns to anything resembling normal a year from now, you may be more under and/or behind (if you pay cash) than current demand/values would suggest.

 

[Robilar]

If you decide to go this route, make sure you can buy 2022 for 54k, without any "market adjustment ". I've seen dealer adding almost 10k on kia carnival, and making 36k base model into 45k van.

In Canada they can't sell above MSRP, its against the law.

 

[Robilar]

I always believe in buying what you want. It sounds like the Stinger isn't really the car, since you have your mind set on something else in the next year. If you went with the 2022 and the car market returns to anything resembling normal a year from now, you may be more under and/or behind (if you pay cash) than current demand/values would suggest.

The plan was an RS5 Sport back originally but the deal on the Stinger was too good to pass up. I enjoy the Stinger but I have my heart set on a mildly ECU tuned RS5.

 

[stoopid]

The plan was an RS5 Sport back originally but the deal on the Stinger was too good to pass up. I enjoy the Stinger but I have my heart set on a mildly ECU tuned RS5.

Similar cars in that they're sedans, but the RS5 is more fun if you like twisties or track so that makes sense (the Stinger is capable but not in the same league IMO).

 

[MerlintheMad]

I just opened a letter from "my" Kia dealer, offering to buy my car for "up to" $34,875: that's for a car over 3.5 years old and over 45K miles. Of course they start low, and hope to go even lower. They have no hope, since I tossed the letter as soon as I looked at it.

 

[Robilar]

Similar cars in that they're sedans, but the RS5 is more fun if you like twisties or track so that makes sense (the Stinger is capable but not in the same league IMO).

I'm definitely back in the car space. I've had 3 SUV's in a row and simply can't bear to drive them any more. I do need back seats though the odd time for passengers otherwise I would have just said screw it and bought a supra.

 

[stoopid]

I'm definitely back in the car space. I've had 3 SUV's in a row and simply can't bear to drive them any more. I do need back seats though the odd time for passengers otherwise I would have just said screw it and bought a supra.

Or the Nissan Z, that appears to be a very competitive offering.

 

[Robilar]

Or the Nissan Z, that appears to be a very competitive offering.

Not sure I like the look of the new Nissan. And this is from a guy that had a 300ZX twin turbo back in the day.

I love the looks of the Supra and have driven one several times. They drive fantastic.

 

[87and66]

I don't think it's worth $13k to get what is almost the same car. Yes the warranty is nice, but say you keep your current stinger. What are the chances you'd spend more than $13k in repair between the time the warranty expires and when the warranty would expire on the scorpion? That's the timeframe where your decision makes a difference. As a reference, I'm pretty sure I've seen an engine replacement on here cost about $8,000. You'd have to have a lot go wrong with your car to come out on top of that $13k, IF you even kept the car that long.

 

[Robilar]

I don't think it's worth $13k to get what is almost the same car. Yes the warranty is nice, but say you keep your current stinger. What are the chances you'd spend more than $13k in repair between the time the warranty expires and when the warranty would expire on the scorpion? That's the timeframe where your decision makes a difference. As a reference, I'm pretty sure I've seen an engine replacement on here cost about $8,000. You'd have to have a lot go wrong with your car to come out on top of that $13k, IF you even kept the car that long.

Good points. After thinking it through and reading comments it doesn't really make sense. Also, I will probably be changing it out in a year or so.