Brembos?

[NYBIOMED]

Are they really that much better than the calipers coming on my 2.5T? What is the weakest link in the 2022 4cyl brake setup? PADS, ROTORS OR CALIPERS? Is it possible to swap in Brembos from other years- I’m sure there are some cracked up stingers in the salvage yards after all these years. I know they say the fronts do something like 80% of the stopping…The Brembos do look sexy inside 19“ wheels. What about the aftermarket pieces, how do they compare?

TIA
PS. Do the Brembos fit inside the 18” OEM wheelset?

 

[MerlintheMad]

Aftermarket "pieces"? I don't know anyone off hand who has replaced the Brembo calipers: I seem to remember reading of one owner here who replaced his, but other than the half-memory that's it.

As for stopping power: are the "in house" calipers on the 2.0L and 2.5L four piston calipers? I don't think that they are. So stopping power is going to the Brembos: but the car is heavier too, so there might not be a dramatic difference in stopping power. Sustained stopping power, yes, the Brembos will win that comparison test too. You could paint your "in house" calipers any number of color choices: dedicated caliper paint is a thing.

 

[NYBIOMED]

Hmmm, I’d sooner buy a used set of Brembos, or other aftermarket, than paint the OEMs….I believe they are 2 piston, not 4 like the Brembos. Yes, I read there is a 300lb difference between the 4cyl/6cyl. I’d have to imagine the springs would be different too, but I’ve not been seeing springs for each, albeit I’m early in my research and not picking up my GT-Line till next weekend.

 

[Dan00Hawk]

The Brembos will undoubtedly be more resistant to fade if you're doing any repeated high speed stops. But the "regular" brakes on the GT-LIne (and most any car for that matter) are capable of doing at least one emergency stop to the point that ABS engages. MotorTrend got 124 feet from 60-0 for the 2022 GT-Line, and 104-110 feet for the GT, or about 1 car length difference. Part of that difference has to do with the grippier performance tire compound and larger tire footprint that comes on the GT vs the skinnier and all season tire compound on the GT-Line, through.

So for regular street driving, the basic brakes are adequate. Switching to a more aggressive pad for the regular brakes that withstands higher heat is a more cost effective approach, and often enough for most aggressive street drivers, though. But if you have repeated high speed aspirations on the street or track, then bigger brakes like the Brembos will offer a more fade free braking experience. And they look nicer too, of course.

Keep in mind that simply throwing on bigger brakes on just the front without properly balancing the braking proportion for the front and back may not produce satisfactory results.

 

[JSolo]

Stock gt-line tires are trash. Invest in something better. Pay attention, keep good following distance. If stock braking is insufficient, i'd explore better pads before changing the whole system out.

 

[7Andrei7]

@NYBIOMED what kind of brakes do you have on the '22 GT Line?
The '19 GT Line (with 2.0) had 2 different braking systems:
The poorer one had 320mm front + 315 mm rear (non-ventilated).
The better one (that came on cars with 19" wheels) had 345mm front + 330mm rear (ventilated). This is what I have.
The GT Brembos come with 350mm fronts and 340mm rear.
So, first step would be to figure yout what your car has. If you have the intermediate one, I think performance wise it's fine. With some better brake pads you can get very close to the GT oem system.
If you have the first one then a step-up to the Brembo should be a significant improvement.
I do like those Brembo callipers!

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[NYBIOMED]

@NYBIOMED what kind of brakes do you have on the '22 GT Line?
The '19 GT Line (with 2.0) had 2 different braking systems:
The poorer one had 320mm front + 315 mm rear (non-ventilated).
The better one (that came on cars with 19" wheels) had 345mm front + 330mm rear (ventilated). This is what I have.
The GT Brembos come with 350mm fronts and 340mm rear.
So, first step would be to figure yout what your car has. If you have the intermediate one, I think performance wise it's fine. With some better brake pads you can get very close to the GT oem system.
If you have the first one then a step-up to the Brembo should be a significant improvement.
I do like those Brembo callipers!

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Good questions, I’ll have to figure exactly what I have first. Has anyone done a Brembos swap? It would make sense to swap all 4 corners- thanks Dan00Hawk, along with SS brake line and pads…maybe EBC yellows I’ve heard some others mention. I would like to do a couple days of autocross each year and really learn how to drive the car. Lime Rock track is just over an hour away from me…will start with the basics, Eibach sways, Lozic ECU, EBC yellows and the Conti Extreme Sports tires at 235/40R19 for my first outing. This 2022 2.5T will be my daily driver, so I don’t plan on getting too crazy. There seems to be so much less info on the 2.5T vs the 3.3TT that’s been around for…5 years now?

 

[NYBIOMED]

Look like EBay has plenty of used Brembos for the Stinger, anyone know whether they drop right in? Kia website indicates the 2022 GT-Line comes with the larger F:13.6”(345mm) R:13.0“ rotors with single piston calipers all around. I would also need to know whether they fit the OEM 18” wheels that will suffice for the winters as my snow tires. 19” RTX Envy’s with the black/bronze tint are ordered and on the way already for 3 season duty.

PS; looks like a used set of Brembos all around from Ebay can be scored for under $1k, does the aftermarket offer something better for $2k?

 

[Stinger GT SS]

Question for the experts: would upgrading the brakes on a modern car have an effect on the ESC (electronic stability control) I would assume that this system would be “calibrated” to the braking system fitted to the car.