AWD Stinger GT1 vs Modded 2011 Camaro SS

[Maddog2873]

This is a planned future race, but was curious what the thoughts were on potential outcomes.

Stinger - Stock

Camaro - Cammed with 486whp\490wtq 6MT

Races I am curious about and will do as soon as weather and time allows:

1/4 mile
20mph roll
40mph roll
60mph roll - (I feel like this is the only sure bet for the camaro to win)

Just a fun scenario to think about while I wait for the weather to change.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

This is a planned future race, but was curious what the thoughts were on potential outcomes.

Stinger - Stock

Camaro - Cammed with 486whp\490wtq 6MT

Races I am curious about and will do as soon as weather and time allows:

1/4 mile
20mph roll
40mph roll
60mph roll - (I feel like this is the only sure bet for the camaro to win)

Just a fun scenario to think about while I wait for the weather to change.

Hate to say it but you probably need a chip/tune and more to compete in any of those scenarios. A 486whp SS should be running 11s, unless he can’t launch a stick. And that advantage should be even bigger on any roll races vs your AWD.

If you pull your air filters(~10hp) and take advantage of the AWD on launch he may be playing catch up if he’s managing traction issues. However once he hooks that 150whp advantage should easily walk on you.

If you want to give yourself a good chance throw on a chip with some e30 and bump up that boost 6psi+ That way he will definitely be playing catch up and would be a great race to the 1/4m.

But either way have fun and share the results when you get to the track.

 

[Kamauxx]

This is a planned future race, but was curious what the thoughts were on potential outcomes.

Stinger - Stock

Camaro - Cammed with 486whp\490wtq 6MT

Races I am curious about and will do as soon as weather and time allows:

1/4 mile
20mph roll
40mph roll
60mph roll - (I feel like this is the only sure bet for the camaro to win)

Just a fun scenario to think about while I wait for the weather to change.

He's got 150+ more hp than you. The only way you will win any of those is if he doesn't know how to shift.

 

[Maddog2873]

Forgot to mention these are both my vehicles. I would be driving the Camaro, wife would be in the Stinger.

I don't claim to be great with my launches as I don't have any practice at the strip, but I would consider myself decent.

I plan on adding an intake and tune to the Stinger at some point, which should help close the gap, but I don't think it would be enough still. One difficulty I now have is deciding to spend money on mods for the Camaro or the Stinger... before the Camaro got all the mod money, now it might have to share, lol.

 

[OliverNuther]

One difficulty I now have is deciding to spend money on mods for the Camaro or the Stinger... before the Camaro got all the mod money, now it might have to share, lol.

Ever see the old sketch where a bloke is trying to level a wooden chair? Saws a bit off one leg - too much. Saws a bit off another leg to compensate - too much. And so on and so on. Take the same approach with your mods. Mod the Stinger until it’s faster than the Camaro then do some more on the Camaro until it’s faster etc etc. Gives you something to aim for.

 

[Devo9er]

Here's my anecdotal opinion. The Stinger, assuming AWD will get out of the hole a lot more consistently than the Camaro. The race is won in the first 60ft. This has been seen numerous times on the various Stinger Vs '......' videos. It's not uncommon to handily beat another car that has a performance advantage on paper..

Before I bought my Stinger I had a turbo fox body mustang that I would take to the local dragstrip once or twice a year. I never competed, only went to test and tune nights to have a little fun. Over several years of meeting, watching, racing, it taught me a lot, watching others and seeing a wide range of fast cars and hoopties. Going to the strip will cast a large humbling light on a lot of people's expectations. In my experience, unless on slicks and/or a good seasonded driver, take all of the RWD muscle/sports cars and go right ahead adding about a second to their claimed factory times. Very rarely did I see street tire factory floor cars run anywhere close to posted times. New 5.0 mustangs were 12.8 - 13.20 cars all night long, Camaros and scat pack challengers about the same etc...Not to say you don't get a good driver that has things sorted every once in a while but overall most people go home scratching their head a bit with future mods on the mind....

I haven't tracked the stinger yet but based on my driving, it's much better at getting off the line consistently and without drama than most other 'fast' cars. It's certainly more confidence inspiring when lining up! It's a driver's race but street tire vs street tire on some backroad in Mexico, I say the Stinger will win 8/10 times.

 

[brancky3]

The Stinger will get destroyed in every scenario here.

 

[GenesisG70]

The Stinger will get destroyed in every scenario here.

But not in reliqbility and finesse of engineering.

 

[Kamauxx]

Here's my anecdotal opinion. The Stinger, assuming AWD will get out of the hole a lot more consistently than the Camaro. The race is won in the first 60ft.

Umm...

20mph roll
40mph roll
60mph roll

?

 

[Doel]

it's all going to depend on how well you can launch the Camaro on the street, my guess is not that well. If you're talking about the track, the Camaro should win easily. 0-60 on the street could go to the Stinger, Camaro would walk after 60.

 

[Callum]

It could be anyone's game. There are too many factors. I really think if the Camaro can hook, it would be gone. A stock Stinger is already down 100+HP/TQ at the crank...not wheels.

The advantage the Stinger has is grip, it won't be struggling for grip on the lower rolls, or off the line.

 

[brancky3]

It could be anyone's game. There are too many factors. I really think if the Camaro can hook, it would be gone. A stock Stinger is already down 100+HP/TQ at the crank...not wheels.

The advantage the Stinger has is grip, it won't be struggling for grip on the lower rolls, or off the line.

But an AWD Stinger does what, like 4.9 seconds to 60 stock? This is like comparing a very modded RWD Stinger to a stock AWD Stinger, there's absolutely no comparison unless the Camaro literally can't drive a manual; he should be able to launch from idle and still pull bus lengths on the Stinger

 

[Callum]

But an AWD Stinger does what, like 4.9 seconds to 60 stock? This is like comparing a very modded RWD Stinger to a stock AWD Stinger, there's absolutely no comparison unless the Camaro literally can't drive a manual; he should be able to launch from idle and still pull bus lengths on the Stinger

Correct. I think the Stinger will hang for 1st, and *maybe*part of second gear then the Camaro takes the cake. Anyones game = Camaro will need a skilled driver to get off the line. Stinger is easier, more predictable. Put your foot down and you are gone

 

[Maddog2873]

Camaro is also on bigger 315 Tires in the back, so a bit more grip to be had there. The Camaro is supposed to be my fun car, so it being the faster option is perfectly fine with me, but I think a few mods to the Stinger to bring it closer would be fine too. Nothing wrong with having a fun fast car, and a fun DD.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

A stock Stinger is already down 100+HP/TQ at the crank...not wheels.

Actually it would be closer to 200bhp or crank HP.

486whp is conservatively 550bhp+ and stock Stingers run about 330whp or 150whp less depending on AWD drivetrain loss. The Camaro has about 50% more power so the AWD traction advantage would barely help until he gets a chip. Then he can drop about a second off that 4.9 0-60 time and really make it a race!

 

[Doel]

A RWD car with almost 500 WHP is going to spin the entire first gear and most of second on the street. I've seen enough muscle cars in my life try to race from a dig to realize that the higher power car doesn't always win on the street in a light to light type race. Prepped track is a different story.

 

[brancky3]

A RWD car with almost 500 WHP is going to spin the entire first gear and most of second on the street. I've seen enough muscle cars in my life try to race from a dig to realize that the higher power car doesn't always win on the street in a light to light type race. Prepped track is a different story.

Yep, you're right. But that Camaro could probably go 1/2 throttle and still beat the stock AWD Stinger