21 Stinger Drive to Display never goes away, doesn't read PSI

[AndreiB96]

Recently purchased my Stringer a few weeks ago. Was lucky enough to get a nail in my sidewall last week and my TPMS light goes on, so I took it to a local tire place. They replaced my front tires and off I went, tire pressure was reading fine again.
Some background info: My wheels have 2 valve stems and the TPMS goes on the inside of the wheels, not the outside. Had no issues driving around for 2 weeks prior to the nail, tire pressures all read fine.

During the install of the new tires, not only did they scratch a wheel but the new valve stems they put on were rubbing against my shock and what i think is the wheel speed sensor box (the black square one in the front wheel wells right behind the wheels).
When I was on my way back to them to see if they could replace the valve stem caps in order to get clearance for the rubbing, my tpms light went on again. They told me that 'The TPMS was programmed to a 2017 so we programmed them to a 2021'. Ever since then the TPMS light is gone and all I have is the Drive to Display screen. I have driven nearly 100km at this point, tried raising the pressure to 40 like ive seen in these forums. I then went to a KalTire to get my car aligned and asked them to take a look, they tell me the front right TPMS is dead and I have them replace it, still not reading, same Drive to Display screen. I am dumbfounded, any help or insight would be appreciated. I wish I never went to that f*cking local tire shop to begin with. Has been nothing but a headache ever since.

If it matters i had the spare on for maybe 10km in total over 2 days, to get home from the tire shop initially and then to go back to the tire shop to put on my new tires the next day.

 

[Snicklefritz]

I can only offer personal experience, and it isn't pretty. I've been switching between aftermarket TPMS on aftermarket wheels, and OEM wheels and sensors, as summer and winter wheels respectively. For over five years by now. I've had two of four aftermarket sensors fail and be replaced. So far, the OEM sensors have held up. The replacement aftermarket sensors don't need to be "programmed" or anything like that. But the shop will do that as part of a troubleshoot. Know this, that KIA will not diagnose unless you are on OEM TPMS sensors. They will "reprogram" any sensors but that's it.

So, my issues resolved themselves. A big mystery as to how or why. I've had the TPMS system go offline like you are experiencing, two or three times at least. I forget, since it's been some years since the first time the "drive to display" screen appeared, in the middle of a road trip on the OEM wheels and sensors in fact - that occasion, early in ownership, went away when I stopped for gas and turned off the car. Then a couple of years later, after an aftermarket sensor had been replaced and had been working alright, the "drive to display" screen appeared again, again during a road trip. But a few days later the system came back online. Another time I recall getting under the glovebox and pushing all the connectors there, and on that occasion the TPMS system came back on within 5 minutes of driving. But on a subsequent occasion of flatlining, pushing connectors did not return function. That happened days later for no rhyme or reason.

Need I say that this is frustrating? Yet, for well over a year, going on two if I recall, the TPMS on both sets of wheels have worked flawlessly. Neither KIA or the aftermarket wheel shop had a clue. All I got was "huh, what's up with that", and shrugs, and an offer to put in yet another sensor. Beyond that, they seriously did not know where to start looking first. And since my car stopped misbehaving on its own, I cannot offer more than this brief story and hope for you.

This is like a bump to see if anyone else notices and has more ideas.

 

[D.J.]

My wheels have 2 valve stems and the TPMS goes on the inside of the wheels, not the outside.

Can you share pic or 2? What kind of rims?

the new valve stems they put on were rubbing against my shock and what i think is the wheel speed sensor box (

Picture?

 

[JSolo]

^^I was going say, I have no idea what the OP is talking about. How does a valve stem scratch a shock!@?# Did they put the wheel on backwards?

Pics pics pics!!

 

[AndreiB96]

^^I was going say, I have no idea what the OP is talking about. How does a valve stem scratch a shock!@?# Did they put the wheel on backwards?

Pics pics pics!!

2 stems, 1 inside and 1 outside, the inner one scratches the shock. I just put my stocks back on and fixed the issue. Got rid of the aftermarket wheels, will be looking for ones with a single stem going forward. Was too much of a headache. There are some other posts on here where users talk about inner stems and the pain in the ass that it is for finding short enough stems compatible with tpms.

 

[AndreiB96]

Can you share pic or 2? What kind of rims?


Picture?


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Put the stocks back on and got rid of the aftermarket wheels. Not making the mistake of getting aftermarket wheels with an inner stem in the future. TPMS issue was resolved by replacing the stock wheels. I think the tire shop damaged the tpms and thats why they were not reading.
Wheels designed for nitrogen (stupid i know, they came on the car) have 2 stems. One in the tradition face of the wheel and one behind. You are meant to fill one side and release oxygen on the inside to properly fill them.

 

[Buzzman12]

In all my years of driving and owning cars, I can honestly say I have never seen or heard of wheels/rims having two stems. This is news to me.
I would like to see a pic of these rims/stems too.

 

[AndreiB96]

In all my years of driving and owning cars, I can honestly say I have never seen or heard of wheels/rims having two stems. This is news to me.
I would like to see a pic of these rims/stems too.

Wheels are gone before I thought to snap a pic, but here is exactly what mine were like. If the stem is too long it smacks against the strut. Some face to the left and if they are too long they can smack against the caliper. Dumbest thing I have ever come across. The rubbing issue was resolved with removing the caps and one of the sensors had to be replaced. Gave the wheels to someone else and they didnt have issues with tpms so I am completely dumbfounded with why mine were not reading. My tpms system was on the fritz and only the stock wheels fixed this issue.

 

[JSolo]

Help me understand, what's wrong with a traditional wheel/stem facing outward? I've had this arrangement on many different cars over the years, it works well.

 

[AndreiB96]

Help me understand, what's wrong with a traditional wheel/stem facing outward? I've had this arrangement on many different cars over the years, it works well.

There is nothing wrong with it. The car came on these wheels when I purchased it. Would not have been my choice, especially now knowing the headache they can be. Higher end wheels might have 2 stems to release O2 on one side while filling with Nitrogen on the other, that is apparently the correct way to fill tires with Nitrogen. Most of these wheels that have 2 stems often have a tpms on the inside of the wheel as there is not enough room to place in the front. A stubby stem would be just fine, but tpms do not come with stubby stems unless special ordered. So another headache aside from simple rubbing if you want to actually monitor your tires.

 

[AndreiB96]

I can only offer personal experience, and it isn't pretty. I've been switching between aftermarket TPMS on aftermarket wheels, and OEM wheels and sensors, as summer and winter wheels respectively. For over five years by now. I've had two of four aftermarket sensors fail and be replaced. So far, the OEM sensors have held up. The replacement aftermarket sensors don't need to be "programmed" or anything like that. But the shop will do that as part of a troubleshoot. Know this, that KIA will not diagnose unless you are on OEM TPMS sensors. They will "reprogram" any sensors but that's it.

So, my issues resolved themselves. A big mystery as to how or why. I've had the TPMS system go offline like you are experiencing, two or three times at least. I forget, since it's been some years since the first time the "drive to display" screen appeared, in the middle of a road trip on the OEM wheels and sensors in fact - that occasion, early in ownership, went away when I stopped for gas and turned off the car. Then a couple of years later, after an aftermarket sensor had been replaced and had been working alright, the "drive to display" screen appeared again, again during a road trip. But a few days later the system came back online. Another time I recall getting under the glovebox and pushing all the connectors there, and on that occasion the TPMS system came back on within 5 minutes of driving. But on a subsequent occasion of flatlining, pushing connectors did not return function. That happened days later for no rhyme or reason.

Need I say that this is frustrating? Yet, for well over a year, going on two if I recall, the TPMS on both sets of wheels have worked flawlessly. Neither KIA or the aftermarket wheel shop had a clue. All I got was "huh, what's up with that", and shrugs, and an offer to put in yet another sensor. Beyond that, they seriously did not know where to start looking first. And since my car stopped misbehaving on its own, I cannot offer more than this brief story and hope for you.

This is like a bump to see if anyone else notices and has more ideas.

Stock wheels with oem tpms went on and the issue eventually fixed itself after a few hundred KM. These cars have such sensitive tpms, but that is to be expected if desgined/engineered by germans. Had similar issues with VW and Audi cars eventually being able to tell there was an 02 spacer on a downpipe and throwing p0420 codes. It is what it is. Will be sticking to stock tpms going forward as I am autistic and pretty anal so I like everything working on my car as intended otherwise I hyper fixate on it LOL.

 

[Snicklefritz]

I like everything working on my car as intended otherwise I hyper fixate on it LOL.

I'm with you. If the aftermarket TPMS the wheels shop installed on my aftermarket wheels didn't work out, I was prepared to get four OEM sensors and use them instead. But, as I described, all by itself, the issue of the "drive to display" screen coming on went away. At least so far.